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    Any thoughts on the Advent 300 receiver? I am bidding on one on ebay. Looks cool, from what I have gleaned from internet it is a fairly high quality piece of gear (for it's age)

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    I have owned two of those.

    One I bought new in the late 70's. The other I bought used maybe 10 yrs. ago.

    Wish I still had one of them.

    Only 15 watts but sounded far superior to most recievers of that time.

    Also has preamp/amp jumpers so I eventually used them as a preamp/tuner when I had larger power amps amps.

    Great phono stage.

    No delay or muting, so it thumped when you turned on the power.

    If I ever find and buy another one I will keep it. Just a cool item.

    Both of mine were black. They made a few silver ones that are rare and desireable.
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    yea, the one I am bidding on has a silver face, looks to be in new condition. It will be mine! (largest wallet wins this one)

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    They are very nice. 15 wpc. Phono preamp famously designed by Tomlinson Holman (APT Corporation, nowadays better known as the "THX" guy...).
    If you get one today, it will need to have every electrolytic capacitor in it replaced to perform anything like its capability. Not a terrible job... but something of which to be aware.

    FWIW, and in the interest of disclosure, the Boston Audio Society thought it sucked.
    http://www.bostonaudiosociety.org/pd...05-10-7707.pdf
    (scroll down past the first 18 pages for the 1977 comparison test)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mhardy6647 View Post
    They are very nice. 15 wpc. Phono preamp famously designed by Tomlinson Holman (APT Corporation, nowadays better known as the "THX" guy...).
    If you get one today, it will need to have every electrolytic capacitor in it replaced to perform anything like its capability. Not a terrible job... but something of which to be aware.

    FWIW, and in the interest of disclosure, the Boston Audio Society thought it sucked.
    http://www.bostonaudiosociety.org/pd...05-10-7707.pdf
    (scroll down past the first 18 pages for the 1977 comparison test)
    I think the Boston Audio Society "bites the big one".

    On the other hand, Sterophile magazine lists the Advent 300 as one of the "100 Most Important Audio Components" in their famous 2002 list.

    Looking at the B.A.S. list....35 years later, who really still wants a Pioneer SX-550 (OK, some people probably do), a Toshiba SA-420, a Technics SA-5060, or a Nikko 3035?

    The Harman Kardon 330C is a classic in it's own right, and the Marantz 2275 @$650 (2-1/2 times the Advent's price) is still desireable.

    If you score the silver Advent 300 and don't care for it, please sell it to me.
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    bidding is over on Sat 11:00 pm eastern time

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    I, too would love to have one - black or silver; I bear no prejudice :-)

    I don't disagree at all about the BAS report - I suspect the reviewer(s) had a strictly personal grudge against ol' Henry and dealt with it in an impressively adult manner (ahem) :-P (too bad there were no hifi forums in those days...).

    Oconomowoc... heh, there was an amusing reference to Oconomowoc on A Prairie Home Companion last Saturday night.
    all the best,
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    Quote Originally Posted by mhardy6647 View Post
    I, too would love to have one - black or silver; I bear no prejudice :-)

    I don't disagree at all about the BAS report - I suspect the reviewer(s) had a strictly personal grudge against ol' Henry and dealt with it in an impressively adult manner (ahem) :-P (too bad there were no hifi forums in those days...).

    Oconomowoc... heh, there was an amusing reference to Oconomowoc on A Prairie Home Companion last Saturday night.
    We take a beating here in Oconomowoc

    I was watching the TV show "Law and Order" a few years back and the detectives were standing over a recently deceased businessman laying on the floor dressed in a bad suit and hairpiece. One Detective opened the stiff's wallet and snickered and said "This clown lasted all of 6 hours in NYC", another detective asked where he was from and first Detective squinted at the dead guy's ID and said "someplace called....Oconomowoc Wisconsin", and everyone laughed.

    Oconomowoc was the site of the world premier of "The Wizard of Oz" in 1939.

    Kind of resting on our laurels since then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Smith View Post
    Oconomowoc was the site of the world premier of "The Wizard of Oz" in 1939.
    Now that is a truly wild nugget of ephemera! :-)

    APHC last Saturday - Guy Noir segment...

    http://prairiehome.publicradio.org/p...ideos/04.shtml
    from 8:20 to the end of the video

    "Oconomowoc! A person could start a new life in a town called Oconomowoc... with five "Os" in it. Yeah, the presence of an "O" in the name of a place is a guarantee it's gonna be good for you! Remember that. Ohio. Minnesota. California..."
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    Yes,

    It is a little known, and less cared about, fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Kozak View Post
    Any thoughts on the Advent 300 receiver? I am bidding on one on ebay. Looks cool, from what I have gleaned from internet it is a fairly high quality piece of gear (for it's age)
    Mike,

    In their 1977 "The Great Preamp Survey", the Staff of "The Audio Critic" called the Advent Model 300 "The greatest per-dollar value of all time in preamp performance....and it isn't even a preamplifier".

    (But sell it to me anyway if you win it on e-bay).

    Tim
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    The Advent Model 300
    Advent Corporation, 195 Albany Street, Cambridge,
    Massachusetts 02139. Model 300 FM Stereo Receiver.
    Three-year warranty; manufacturer pays return freight.
    Tested No. JO 02876, owned by The Audio Critic.
    The very first unit in our alphabetical listing will
    recoup the subscription cost of The Audio
    Critic many times over for anyone who is looking
    for the greatest per-dollar value of all time
    in preamp performance
    .
    The Advent Model 300 isn’t even a preamplifier,
    but who cares? For $260, you get a neat little
    FM tuner and a 15-watt-per-channel power
    amplifier thrown in free of charge. We haven’t
    tested these, but we can assure you that they
    work. The Editor’s two young sons are blasting
    away with our expropriated 300, straight
    through, even as these lines are being written.
    The only reason for the inclusion of the Advent
    300 in this survey was the announcement ad
    from Advent that asserted that the 300 incorporates
    “an entirely new phono preamp section
    that is audibly equal or superior to any separate
    preamp at any price.” While we find ourselves
    unable to endorse that claim without
    any qualification, we must report that it’s far
    from the usual advertising bombast and is substantially
    truthful. Only a small handful of the
    preamps we tested come even close to the
    Advent when you convert it to a separate preamplifier
    by removing two thick, U-shaped aluminum
    jumper wires in the back of the receiver.
    As we hint on our front cover, the Advent
    sounds better than, for example, the Yamaha
    C-1 at $1800.
    We still can’t recommend the Advent to those
    who want absolutely the best, regardless of
    price. While completely open, free, neutral,
    and non-fatiguing in sound, with excellent
    depth perspective and very impressive dynamics,
    the Advent still doesn’t possess the ultimate
    refinement of inner detail audible on the
    top four or five units in our survey. It would be
    grossly unfair to pit the Advent against each of
    these, freckle by freckle and eyelash by eyelash,
    since even the cheapest of them costs
    almost twice as much. What’s more, even their
    narrow margin of superiority must be somewhat
    qualified.
    Whatever slight blunting or veiling of detail the
    Advent may produce (and we must emphasize
    that it’s very slight) is due, in our opinion, to
    the tone control circuit, which cannot be
    switched out. This is the feature we liked least
    about the unit; in fact, we discovered in the lab
    that when the tone controls were set for deadflat
    response on the right channel, there was a
    2 dB bass boost on the left channel.
    Furthermore, the dead-flat position of the treble
    control was a few minutes past the 12
    o’clock position. (Of course, we mustn’t forget
    that we’re dealing with a $260 stereo receiver
    here; it’s really a schizophrenic situation! Next
    thing you know, we’ll complain that the controls
    don’t have that expensive feel. They don’t,
    damn it. ..)
    The point we’re trying to make, though, is that
    when you bypass the tone control circuit and
    the volume control by testing the Advent at
    “tape out,” unbelievable things begin to happen.
    We absolutely drove our keen-eared
    Associate Editor up the wall by going from
    those “tape out” jacks into the “remote phono”
    inputs of the Mark Levinson JC-2 and A-B-ing
    the phono stage of the Advent against the JC-
    2’s own phono stage. He couldn’t decide which
    one he preferred! After a long evening of agonizing
    reappraisal, we came to the reasonably
    firm conclusion that we preferred the JC-2 with
    its own phono stage. It seemed just the slightest
    bit higher in resolution of inner detail.
    Whew!
    About the only thing to add is that the Advent
    Model 300 has rather low gain when used as a
    separate preamp, preferring to see a power
    amplifier with an input sensitivity of 1 volt or
    even less. And that all the lower-priced preamps
    in the world are dead, dead, dead.
    Recommendations
    With the reminder, once more, that all of the
    above is work-in-progress and that our conclusions
    may change as this survey goes into its
    second part, here are our present recommendations
    to those who wish to buy a preamplifier
    immediately.
    Best sound through mag phono, regardless
    of all other considerations: Rappaport PREl
    (with the caveat about hum-see review).
    Alternate choice for better system compatibility
    in specific cases: Mark Levinson JC-
    2.
    Close to the best at a much lower price:
    Advent Model 300.
    Reprinted by permission of The Audio Critic, Box 392,
    Bronxville, NY 10708. ? 1977 by The Audio Critic.
    Printed in USA 85-955-072
    ADVENT
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    You couldn't pry mine away from me. Neat item.

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    Don't pay any attention to what some tweedy barfmats from the Boston Audio Society said.

    Buy the Advent 300.
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    I thoroughly agree - I think the BAS review is most amusing (although they're right about the hk330c).
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    So if I am going to by a reasonably priced amd to go with the Advent what should I be looking for?

    thanks for all the help!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Kozak View Post
    So if I am going to by a reasonably priced amd to go with the Advent what should I be looking for?

    thanks for all the help!!
    Keeping with the "bang for the buck" theme:

    I would recommend looking for a used NAD "basic" amp. Low priced and lots of them floating around on CL. Smooth sound and more powerfull than their conservative output ratings would suggest. Modern/utilitarian look like the Advent 300.

    You can always sell the NAD and go up from there as budget and interest allows.

    What kind of speakers do you have, or are planning to get for your system?
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    I have monitor 70s in cherry finish, love them. Onkyo 7.1 driving them, great for movies, but not for 2 channel

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    My other preamp is a Holman.

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