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    Default Purchase Help on Plasma/LED

    So me and my wife are looking for a new tv. Currently I have a lcd sony bravia 52XBR6 tv that has a nice vertical line going down the side. Sony came out of course and said have a nice day, the lcd panel has to be replaced. So I need a tv at some point and I am doing some research and have read alot of forum information about plasmas vs LED tv's. I do see that there are lot's of people saying not to get any samsung LED tv's and I am wondering why? I like the Samsung UN65D8000 or the new UN60ES8000 they came out with but saw some bad reviews on there as far as 3d tv and picture quality. So now I am stuck between plasma and LED based on everyone's reviews so I am posting this help request because I am confused on what to get. The room I will watch it in has about 6 windows, lot's of lighting however I am putting in faux wood blinds that will have the routeless option to block all the light I can without putting blackout curtains up. So that being said, I am attaching the room size. The TV will be on the wall that divides the library from the living room. The tv will be about 9.5 feet away from my couch. So the questions I am looking for help on this are:

    1. Size of tv, is 65 too big?
    2. Type of TV LED/Plasma? Which is my best bet for watching movies/playing lot's of PS3 games
    3. I like no flaw's in the picture and no studdering or any blur's so I want the best quality possible.
    4. I hate dark pictures, I always liked the brigness of samsungs LCD/LED tv's so not sure where to go Samsung 65D8000 or PN64D8000 plasma.

    Any help is greatly appreciated as I am about to dump ton's of money in on this and don't want another bad tv or bad quality. Also the only thing that bothers me with plasma is the burn in problem and the degradation of quality of time that's the only thing that scares me on those so any help here is greatly appreciated.Name:  Speakerplacement.jpg
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    That Sony Bravia was a good television unfortunately electronics die no matter what brand you buy. Hey a rhyme.

    I can tell you what I purchased. After a month of studying and going from here to there looking I purchased a Vizio XVT473SV 47" true LED television. It is backlit and has a tremendous picture. You do not have to purchase a dongle to get online via wireless connection and it comes with a ton of apps. Facebook. Youtube. Amazon Prime. Netflix. etc.... Many televisions are coming with these apps as standard. The Vizio I purchased is a 240Hz television which is great for fast moving pictures and gaming. It is smooth and bright.

    If you play games shoot for a high refresh rate such as the 240Hz.

    I really cannot say anything bad about this Vizio. Many of my friends tried to steer me away and go the Sony route but I am happy with my choice. I am about 7 months into the television at this time with zero problems.

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    If you play games online then check the refresh rate of any new tv these days as they are horrid when it comes to online shooters

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    I would go with a Plasma, and a good set of drapes if it is in a bright room. The down side of a plasma is the front is glass so it shows reflections. The other good side of the front being glass is the picture isnt being displayed through a semi tranparent plastic surface.


    I hate the cartoonie motion that LCD tv's make. It takes action movies where the picture is supose to be jerky and shaky (like explosions going off) and make them real smooth and flowy. The tv has to do this other wise it the screen will pixilate becuase the LCD pannel is to slow.

    So if your looking at LCD's make sure that what they are advertising is the actual refresh rate of the pannle, not what their tv soft ware mimics. Ultra Motion 240 or 480 is not really a 240hz or 480hz refresh rate. It is what the soft ware suposedly reproduces, and they try to advertise it as the LCD pannels actual refresh rate. It is a marketing gimic.
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    Panasonic plasma. The one thing you may not like is plasma's don't have the artifical brightness that LCD/LED's do, but I think once you get use to it, you'll realize it's more natural.
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    Is that vertical line a solid color, or does it just appear as a bit of a shadow on your screen? If you commonly view 4:3 pictures on your widescreen LCD with the black bars on either side, you can get what's called image persistence. If you are able to leave the TV off for several days, the condition should alleviate as the LCD pixels return to their relaxed state. I have very slight vertical lines on my Sony LCD TV, exactly where those black bars would be when I am viewing a 4:3 image. I would much rather have the black bars than unnaturally stretch the picture out to make it fill the screen.

    Point is, image persistence is a condition that can happen to any LCD, just as burn-in can happen to any CRT or plasma. It's a limitation of the technology.

    If your line is a solid color line, then yes, it's broken.

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    Led since you have a lot of light going on in the room. Would be a pain to keep shutting blinds for 6 windows throughout the day?!

    Not sure about the quality of those Samsung leds you mentioned but they sure are sexy. Do more research among other sites to get a guage if that's what you really want.
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    Panasonic P65VT30 I pick one up last week. Had the 52 LCD Sony no comparison at all. The pani is by far the best TV on the market today.Read up on it they come along way and even in bright rooms during the day you switch it over to vivid problem solved.

    I am amazed at the picture every time I turn it on just wow.

    They are a bit pricey but shop around oh and 65" is not to big.

    Cheers Roger

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    I picked up a Panasonic 55" ST30 and love it. It gets 95% of its use with my PS3, mostly Resistance 3, and it is so much more engrossing than the 50" Samsung DLP ever was. I've got mine in a dark room (2 windows covered by black-out curtains), so light is not an issue. My parents enjoyed the TV so much that they went out and got the same one a week after seeing mine.

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    I have a panny plasma and love it the only problem I have with it it the size 42" is just not big enough. Mind you mine is in a finished basement with one huge window 6wx4h. Went to HD bought a black out pull down blind and will add some curtains soon to make it look "pretty"
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    I have a 42" Panny Plasma I bought at the end of 2008. No issues at all. It's in a bright room and the picture is as bright as the CRT it replaced. The only issue is reflections on the screen.

    There's a large window directly opposite the TV, so I sit to one side of the room if I'm watching during the daytime. Reflections disappear.

    I agree with the previous posters in that the picture, colors, contrast is much more natural than any LCD/LED I've seen. The latter is so bright, the colors so saturated that most programs look cartoon like.

    They also seem to have a worse problem with pixelation, especially with SD signals. Action sequences, sports, etc also are more lifelike on my plasma.

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    Ok so you guy's were sure right, me and my wife went to best buy to look at a samsung LED the UN65D8000 and the same series in plasma the PN64D8000F samsung side by side and let me tell you i did notice the difference. The picture was dark but I like the lifelike motion, and it doesn't look all pixelated which i hate. I think i can deal with a darker screen for the realistic effects and true colors especially when I am playing PS3 games. So heres my debate which one can you guy's recommend my two plasma's on the table are the samsung PN64D8000F and the panasonic TC-P65VT30 plasma. Which is better as far as brightness etc and best picture?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davehall83 View Post
    Ok so you guy's were sure right, me and my wife went to best buy to look at a samsung LED the UN65D8000 and the same series in plasma the PN64D8000F samsung side by side and let me tell you i did notice the difference. The picture was dark but I like the lifelike motion, and it doesn't look all pixelated which i hate. I think i can deal with a darker screen for the realistic effects and true colors especially when I am playing PS3 games. So heres my debate which one can you guy's recommend my two plasma's on the table are the samsung PN64D8000F and the panasonic TC-P65VT30 plasma. Which is better as far as brightness etc and best picture?
    You won't notice a brightness issue if your room is dark enough. Good friend of mine has a Panny plasma in his LR and I've never noticed a brightness problem. Get some good blinds and you'll be set. If my room wasn't ridiculously bright I'd have gone plasma in a second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by polk500 View Post
    Panasonic P65VT30 I pick one up last week. Had the 52 LCD Sony no comparison at all. The pani is by far the best TV on the market today.Read up on it they come along way and even in bright rooms during the day you switch it over to vivid problem solved.

    I am amazed at the picture every time I turn it on just wow.

    They are a bit pricey but shop around oh and 65" is not to big.

    Cheers Roger
    I haven't seen the Samsung model you quoted but we have an older 42" Samsung 2008 I think nice tv but doesn't hold a candle to the New Pani.

    As for the pani brightest of picture well that depends on what your viewing. I like to what movies in the THX mode for the lifelike picture but we switch to game mode for racing games on the PS3 and it brighten up considerable.

    I'm sure the Samsung is a nice tv but I don't think it better then the pani.

    Anyway have fun picking out your new tv.

    Cheers Roger

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    I have an LG pk550 i would put head to head with a panny.

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    Panasonic has been the leader in plasma for years.
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    Plasma rules

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    Panasonic plasma is the best choice by far. I have the Director Series Hitachi plasma, it's 3 years old and still going strong.

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    I've bought 2 Panny plasmas with no issues at all. If you go that route, shop hard for the best price! Fat Wallet is not a bad place to start. Also, paying for delivery and setup was a good choice for moi. You may want to run the breakin images-see the AVS forum.

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    I've got a 50" Samsung plasma that I bought after taking a Panasonic plasma back to the store I bought it from. The picture was great except I couldn't adjust excessive grain out of it. The Panny's blacks were better but the Sammy's colour more natural. I've had the Samsung for two years and no issues whatsoever.
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