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    Default Brgman's gaskets or Mortite?

    Anyone have experience with both? Impressions? I am currently upgrading my 1Cs and would welcome any first-hand knowledge or opinions. For some reason Mortite seems a little messy (if you know what I mean).

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    Brgmans gaskets hands down
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    I have had great success with Mortite and have found it easy to work with. BUT, if I had both sitting in front of me, I'd go with the gaskets for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thsmith View Post
    Brgmans gaskets hands down
    Good to hear. Mike was kind enough to sell me gaskets for the SWs, MWs, and tweeters. I was a little concerned that they might degrade over time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gwg_97 View Post
    Anyone have experience with both? Impressions? I am currently upgrading my 1Cs and would welcome any first-hand knowledge or opinions. For some reason Mortite seems a little messy (if you know what I mean).

    Thanks!
    Something thats pretty easy to work with as well is called Armaflex. You can pick it up at home depot and its MUCH easier to use than Mortite and quite cheap as well.

    DK did a nice write up on it v. Mortite and the stock gaskets here

    I used the Armaflex for my db840 mod on my LSi 15's and it worked great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EndersShadow View Post
    Something thats pretty easy to work with as well is called Armaflex. You can pick it up at home depot and its MUCH easier to use than Mortite and quite cheap as well.

    DK did a nice write up on it v. Mortite and the stock gaskets here

    I used the Armaflex for my db840 mod on my LSi 15's and it worked great!
    Thanks for the link! Great information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gwg_97 View Post
    Thanks for the link! Great information.
    No problem man, like I said that stuff is easy to find and use. By no means am I commenting on on brgman's gaskets as I havent seen them in person or installed them.

    I just know that stuff is something you could go pick up tonight and do your baskets with. Dont forget the other mod's like dynamatting the drivers
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    Dont forget the other mod's like dynamatting the drivers [/QUOTE]

    Oh yeah, its on the list.
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    I used 1/2" closed-cell foam weather strip from Lowes on my Advents and it was very easy to use and seals very good. One side has adhesive and helps stick on the back of speaker frame.

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    So many options. Thanks!
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    The best and cheapest gasket material is the rubberised cork gasket material you can get at any automotive parts store. Depending on how thick it is you purchase it in rolls or sheets. this stuff is used for things such as enigne valve cover gaskets where is lasts for year after year. In the enviroment of a speaker gasket you will never have to address this issue again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by transmaster View Post
    The best and cheapest gasket material is the rubberised cork gasket material you can get at any automotive parts store. Depending on how thick it is you purchase it in rolls or sheets. this stuff is used for things such as enigne valve cover gaskets where is lasts for year after year. In the enviroment of a speaker gasket you will never have to address this issue again.
    Thanks transmaster! Great idea. I just saw your sig. My grandfather used to work at Collins Radio long ago. Unfortunatly, that's all I know. I just wish I knew how to get rid of all of his NOS radios and tubes. OK, he did work for Collins Radio. I made up the part about the NOS gear. Sorry, I can be a bit of a ............ sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by transmaster View Post
    The best and cheapest gasket material is the rubberised cork gasket material you can get at any automotive parts store. Depending on how thick it is you purchase it in rolls or sheets. this stuff is used for things such as enigne valve cover gaskets where is lasts for year after year. In the enviroment of a speaker gasket you will never have to address this issue again.
    This stuff doesn't have adhesive on one side though, does it? If not, I think it would be more difficult to work with for speaker gaskets. Also, does this come in rolls that are of a useable (eg. 3/8"-1/2") width, or do you need to cut it lengthwise too?

    For any of these gasket/sealer products what is the ideal width we should use for 6-1/2" drivers, PRs and tweeters for say, Monitor 10Bs and SDA-2Bs?

    Lastly, can someone explain what "brgman gaskets" are?

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    Brgman gaskets suck!

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    Brgman is a Club Polk member who was selling "home made" gaskets a few months ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brgman View Post
    Brgman gaskets suck!
    Be nice. From what I can tell, Brgman is a pretty good guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gwg_97 View Post
    Brgman is a Club Polk member who was selling "home made" gaskets a few months ago.
    actually factory made by a gasket manufacturer for us polkies

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwg_97 View Post
    Be nice. From what I can tell, Brgman is a pretty good guy.
    Don't let that lie out!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by brgman View Post
    actually factory made by a gasket manufacturer for us polkies
    So............Uh...........Are they more gooder than the other options available to us?

    Are they still available? Any pics out there of these things? It'd be nice to have something that's pre-cut and easy to work with for our specific drivers/PRs/tweets!

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    Tour2ma bought about all my extras but if he won't help we can get you fixed up.
    Get some feedback from those that used them and let me know.
    See who else chimes in.I'm biased.Some folks may not like them after all.

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    I picked up a set of brgman's gaskets for my SDA 2A's and they did a great job of sealing the cabinets.

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    I used brgman's gaskets and they worked really well. I have placed two different orders for them. The last order I received were a little thicker than the first. (I knew that when I ordered.) All did a good job of sealing but I found the thicker ones easier to work with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gwg_97 View Post
    Thanks transmaster! Great idea. I just saw your sig. My grandfather used to work at Collins Radio long ago. Unfortunatly, that's all I know. I just wish I knew how to get rid of all of his NOS radios and tubes. OK, he did work for Collins Radio. I made up the part about the NOS gear. Sorry, I can be a bit of a ............ sometimes.
    Damn you had me going for a second If you where to have say a Collins KW-1 you would not want to give out your location because hamradio operators would be out in front of your house, shooting, knifing, running over, poisoning, and other wise killing each other to be the first to knock on your door, am only halfway kidding about that, I don't suppose they would poison each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwg_97 View Post
    Be nice. From what I can tell, Brgman is a pretty good guy.
    I have never dealt with him personally, but have read some good things about his gaskets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brgman View Post
    Brgman gaskets suck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by teekay0007 View Post
    This stuff doesn't have adhesive on one side though, does it? If not, I think it would be more difficult to work with for speaker gaskets. Also, does this come in rolls that are of a useable (eg. 3/8"-1/2") width, or do you need to cut it lengthwise too? For any of these gasket/sealer products what is the ideal width we should use for 6-1/2" drivers, PRs and tweeters for say, Monitor 10Bs and SDA-2Bs?
    Actually what you do is cut the gasket ring out of the cork material in one piece, use a hole punch to punch out the holes for the screws. I made my hole punch out of an old 1/4 drive deep well socket, pick one that has the correct diameter and sharpen the edge. When you are finished you have a gasket that is like the original except it is made out of cork. If you want an adhesive surface you can apply that yourself. You can get rubberized cork sheets as thin as a 1/16 of an inch which is just about the thickness of the originals.

    You mark out the gasket either by using the driver in question to trace it out, or use a compass scribe to mark it out on the neoprene/cork sheet. You can cut it out with a heavy set of scissors, or you can cut is out with a sharp wood chisel. If you make a template for the gasket them you can cut it out with a very sharp dry wall knife.



    THICKNESSES / WIDTHS AVAILABLE FOR CORK & NEOPRENE MEDIUM

    Thickness / Width

    1/32" x 36" sq.
    1/16" x 36" sq.
    1/8" x 36" sq.
    3/16" x 36" sq.
    1/4" x 36" sq,
    5/16" x 36" sq.
    3/8" x 36" sq.
    1/2" x 36" sq.
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    Concur! Brgman gaskets. Don't look back.
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    Thanks again guys. I'm going to meet with a fellow Polkie today and talk crossover options. Should be fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thsmith View Post
    Brgmans gaskets hands down



    +1000000 or Armaflex..
    No Way But The Hard Way, So Get Used To It!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by brgman View Post
    Brgman gaskets suck!
    +1000000000000000 BIG TIME.

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