I do, but I'm upgrading my system (see below), and I wonder if I'm going to have to get out of that habit to get the most from my new gear.
Thanks.
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Vist our Online StoreI do, but I'm upgrading my system (see below), and I wonder if I'm going to have to get out of that habit to get the most from my new gear.
Thanks.
Hi-Fi
Apple Lossless --> Squeezebox Touch --> Grant Fidelity TubeDAC-09 --> MIT AVT2 IC's --> Yaqin MC-10t --> MIT EXP S2 Cables --> LSi-15's
Visuals
http://StretchPhotography.com
http://Vimeo.com/channels/stretchphoto
Streaming can be done at a bit perfect level depending on your equipment, if that is what you are asking.
By the way i spent about 45 minutes on your site. Excellent work. Kudos
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Thanks for your kind words!
Regarding streaming, I guess the first variable to address is the source. Are mp3's pretty much out? My guess is that I should move away from them and toward WAV files, yes?
Hi-Fi
Apple Lossless --> Squeezebox Touch --> Grant Fidelity TubeDAC-09 --> MIT AVT2 IC's --> Yaqin MC-10t --> MIT EXP S2 Cables --> LSi-15's
Visuals
http://StretchPhotography.com
http://Vimeo.com/channels/stretchphoto
I stream VIA Apple TV 3rd gen. My first gen has a 160g built in hard drive which I think is the best. I plan on maybe getting into Sonos as I really love that system not to mention I have 9 other Audio zones around the house.
Dan
My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
I also use the apple tv...
Hi-Fi
Apple Lossless --> Squeezebox Touch --> Grant Fidelity TubeDAC-09 --> MIT AVT2 IC's --> Yaqin MC-10t --> MIT EXP S2 Cables --> LSi-15's
Visuals
http://StretchPhotography.com
http://Vimeo.com/channels/stretchphoto
Sonos here too, and yes, get away from mp3's and into a lossless format such as Flac, Wav, or even Apple lossless. How you play it and distribute it has many options but a good dac is practically a must have in this .
I just created a quick post on this topic, partially because I saw this thread. It can be found below:
http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/show...80#post1796280
For the best playback I personally do not recommend the Apple TV as I find the sound quality a bit lacking. I'm surprised Dan actually finds it adequate for music playback given his exposure to various audio gear. Maybe my setup is amiss somewhere, but I find it pretty obviously lacking in sound. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the Apple TV for some other features, but music playback has been less than stellar for me.
Main HT
Magnepan 1.6QR fronts, PSB Image B4 surrounds, Pioneer SC-25, Parasound Halo A23, Oppo BDP-83 SE, Airport Express w/ Peachtree DAC, Sony KDL-55HX850, Sony PS3, Apple TV
Bedroom System
Polk Blackstone TL3, Polk PSWi225 Wireless Sub, HK 3490 Integrated, Oppo BDP-83, Sharp Aquos 32" TV, Apple TV
Office Rig
27" iMac w/Amarra, Peachtree DAC-IT, Focal XS Book, Schiit Valhalla > Sennheiser HD600, Schiit Lyr > HiFiMan HE0500, LG 47LM7600, Sony PS3, XBOX 360, Apple TV
Squeezebox into a dac. Then get the iPhone app that lets you use the phone as a player. If you open a port on your router you can stream your whole library to the phone. I use it in the car all the time. I barely keep any music on the phone any more.
Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
MP3's out. Lossy = bad; lossless = good. FLAC, WAV, Apple Lossless, APE, SHN, etc. = all good.
I choose FLAC because it's versatile and small.
Playback method is another story. As tonyb says, as good DAC is key, like, super key.
Some people will wince at this next statement, because it will lead you into bad source material, but it is the TRUTH (to my ears):
- A high quality MP3 played back on an excellent DAC will sound better than a lossless file played back on a mediocre DAC. Period. Disagree? Come on over; we'll have ourselves a listen!
seriously though, ditch all lossy formats, including mp3. A lossless file played back on an excellent DAC is the obvious winner.![]()
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2-Channel:
Source 1: PC/foobar2000/ASIO
Source 2: Rega Apollo CDP
USB to SPDIF Converter: Stello U3
DAC: Audio GD NFB-7
Preamp: Audio Research LS-15
Power Amp: BAT VK-500
Speakers: Magnepan 3.7's
HT:
Sources: HTPC, FiOS, Oppo 103
Pre/Pro: Marantz av8003
Amp: Rotel RMB-1095
Speakers: LSiM-703's, 702's, 704c
Subs: Dual SVS PC12-NSD's
TV: Panny 55" VT50
nspindel, you have got it exactly right. I just experienced a friend's Squeezebox Touch in a nice system with pristine SDA SRS 2.3TL's and I was blown away. The streaming was FLAC lossless and at less than $300 ($237 on Amazon), it's by far the best value in a full featured streaming device. The app basically turns your phone into another remote for the unit. Opening a port on your router is brilliant for this device. Great post, nspindel!
ok, so to focus this a bit, stretch:
-moving forward it is recommended that you get your music in a lossless state whenever possible.
-it is recommended that you get the best external DAC that you can in your budget that will meet your needs/wants.
-It is important to consider the interface by which the music will arrive to your DAC, and how that will communicate with you storage device
I and a couple others use HTPCs and/or MacMinis for this purpose, and find it ideal as asynchronous USB or firewire are superior methods of data transfer to contemporary DACs. They also are endlessly useful for other uses, as you might imagine.
Others have found it convenient to keep their music on their existing computers and incorporate a sqeezebox device. For the money, they perform fairly well, and are heavily modifiable.
My primary source is digital, and likewise for many others here. There are many ways to make it sound great, and there is no reason that you will have to give up that convenience when you upgrade.
design is where science and art break even.
Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
Now J. River can "see" Squeezeboxes as zones. Give the JRemote app a whirl too (3rd party), it's killer and you can control any zone including playback to current device.
Source Synology DS411j (12TB RAID 5) | JRMC18 | Win7 x64 i7 @ 4gHz 16GB RAM | SOtM USB PCI (5V disabled) > Virtue Audio 10ft USB > Antelope Zodiac Gold + Voltikus Linear PSU
Cables Antipodes Komako RCA | Clear Day Shotgun (bananas)
Amplification Decware SE EL34.1 (EML 5U4 mesh, Pope 7DJ8, Blk. Treas. EL34 among others)
Acoustic Transducers inbound Zu Union Cube (Clarity Cap upgrade, Birch upgrade) Hoyt Bedford 1.5
Bassmaker Omega Deep Hemp
Thanks everyone. I'm still on the road and will have to address this in detail once I get back home and have the various components in front of me and the new speakers and amp hooked up. Too many "moving parts" to figure it all out now...
Hi-Fi
Apple Lossless --> Squeezebox Touch --> Grant Fidelity TubeDAC-09 --> MIT AVT2 IC's --> Yaqin MC-10t --> MIT EXP S2 Cables --> LSi-15's
Visuals
http://StretchPhotography.com
http://Vimeo.com/channels/stretchphoto
USB HDD -->Laptop hardwired -->Wireless Modem -->Squeezebox Touch -->Benchmark DAC/PRE. Using Flac. I can discern no difference between this setup and my CEC transport playing CD's. If anything, the HDD music might sound ever so slightly smoother.
Source: C.E.C. CD-3300 CD Transport
DAC: Benchmark DAC/PRE
Linestage: Placette Audio Passive
Power Amp: Parasound HCA-1500A
Speakers: Harbeth Compact 7ES-3 Monitor
Stop dissecting and start listening. - Steve in Arizona
I stream to 4 different airport express's around the entire house
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