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    Default need some input!!!!!

    Have an oppertunity for a pair of carver al lll's cosmeticly fine, have listened to them however the gear they were hooked up to was way under powered (so i hear) for them. Would be played thru my "main rig" listed below ( amp has been benched at over 400w at 4ohms plenty of currant. have heard and read about ribon issues being a bitch if not right. They seemed ok but without the right power who knows. So are yhey as good as some have said or ..... The cost is really not an issue but if they need to be rebuilt later ....hmmmmmmmmmmm. In knotts over thia one and could really use some input. Thanks in advance.
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a
    McIntosh MC 2120 bi-amped
    Into JBL L123 drivers
    Rane external crossover.
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    ADCOM GDA 700 DAC ( MODDED)
    YAMMY CDC-665
    Marantz 6100 tt w/pickering XV-15/625E cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    POLK RTA-12C'S W/ RDO194 TWEETS, clarity ESA caps mills risistors (full mod)
    MIT exps2 speaker cable

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    i came across this that may useful to you:

    http://www.theaudiophile.net/threads...oudspeaker-III

    notice the part about bi-amping?

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    i would say you are good for power at a 4ohm rating. according to manual they take 575watts. the manual states they are 8ohm speakers. here is the link, I may be looking at the wrong document:

    http://thecarversite.com/manuals/man...r%20manual.PDF

    if in fact they are 8 ohm you need to look at what your amp is rated for that impedance.

    the manual also states they will operate at a minimum of 65watts.

    considering other things....how big is the room you will be placing them in?

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    Have these are 4 ohm not eight bit may be diff modles.
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a
    McIntosh MC 2120 bi-amped
    Into JBL L123 drivers
    Rane external crossover.
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    ADCOM GDA 700 DAC ( MODDED)
    YAMMY CDC-665
    Marantz 6100 tt w/pickering XV-15/625E cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    POLK RTA-12C'S W/ RDO194 TWEETS, clarity ESA caps mills risistors (full mod)
    MIT exps2 speaker cable

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    how do you know they are 4 ohm, is it printed on the speakers?

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    Carver.com lists yhem 86db sensitivity and 4ohms
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a
    McIntosh MC 2120 bi-amped
    Into JBL L123 drivers
    Rane external crossover.
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    ADCOM GDA 700 DAC ( MODDED)
    YAMMY CDC-665
    Marantz 6100 tt w/pickering XV-15/625E cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    POLK RTA-12C'S W/ RDO194 TWEETS, clarity ESA caps mills risistors (full mod)
    MIT exps2 speaker cable

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    The ones your link brings up are not the ones im looking at. Must be diff modle or year.
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a
    McIntosh MC 2120 bi-amped
    Into JBL L123 drivers
    Rane external crossover.
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    ADCOM GDA 700 DAC ( MODDED)
    YAMMY CDC-665
    Marantz 6100 tt w/pickering XV-15/625E cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    POLK RTA-12C'S W/ RDO194 TWEETS, clarity ESA caps mills risistors (full mod)
    MIT exps2 speaker cable

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    i found it.

    yes, 4ohm nominal. the manual is hard to interpret. i dunno. i would say you are okay for power. you won't max them out but do you need to?

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    Somwbody got a pair of these? Please tell me your exp.with them
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a
    McIntosh MC 2120 bi-amped
    Into JBL L123 drivers
    Rane external crossover.
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    ADCOM GDA 700 DAC ( MODDED)
    YAMMY CDC-665
    Marantz 6100 tt w/pickering XV-15/625E cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    POLK RTA-12C'S W/ RDO194 TWEETS, clarity ESA caps mills risistors (full mod)
    MIT exps2 speaker cable

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    If they are not the plus model there is a great write up out there on upgrading the woofers and XO
    http://www.jdsmarthome.com/index_files/carver.htm

    http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/arc...p/t-51179.html

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    duplicate post

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    I have heard of that mod but never saw the details. Thanks
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a
    McIntosh MC 2120 bi-amped
    Into JBL L123 drivers
    Rane external crossover.
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    ADCOM GDA 700 DAC ( MODDED)
    YAMMY CDC-665
    Marantz 6100 tt w/pickering XV-15/625E cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    POLK RTA-12C'S W/ RDO194 TWEETS, clarity ESA caps mills risistors (full mod)
    MIT exps2 speaker cable

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    they are 4ohm and below you need very good amp they are very inefficient.

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    If they come about i will use the parasound (a little over 400 w@ 4ohms , heavily modded for the top).. Considering a lg pro amp (5/600w) for the woofers.and biamp.should about handle them i would think. Just hope that will open them up.
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a
    McIntosh MC 2120 bi-amped
    Into JBL L123 drivers
    Rane external crossover.
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    ADCOM GDA 700 DAC ( MODDED)
    YAMMY CDC-665
    Marantz 6100 tt w/pickering XV-15/625E cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    POLK RTA-12C'S W/ RDO194 TWEETS, clarity ESA caps mills risistors (full mod)
    MIT exps2 speaker cable

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