starting out

[Gunner105]

I'm looking at a set of TSI400's, a CS20 and a PSW505. My question is would an Onkyo TX-NR616 have enough power to get good sound from this setup? Knowing nothing about wires and stuff I'm looking at 16ga wire and seawell deadbolt banana plugs.

I've never had anything beyond computer speakers or a bookshelf system. This system is going to be for music and movies. Not sure if I should get another set of speakers for the rear, trying to stay within a set budget right now.

thanks!

[txcoastal1]

Congrats you'll be fine unless u run her ear bleeding

[Lasareath]

One of your first upgrades you'll want to do when you want more power is to add an external amp. You'll need a receiver with Pre-Outs for all 7 channels. You might want to upgrade the receiver to a model with Pre-Outs and that will extend it's life.


One model up has pre-outs http://www.us.onkyo.com/model.cfm?m=...s=Receiver&p=i

[cfrizz]

+10 What Lasareath said. Welcome to Club Polk!

[seabeerob213]

go for monoprice plugs in that price range, those sewell are brass, not copper, i have some and dont really care for them

[cowtrimmer]

The 616 will have enough power, but for $150 more I would go to amazon and get a TX-NR709 or $160 more will get you a 717. It will have pre outs like lasareath mentioned and save you from upgrading down the road.

[Gunner105]

Thanks all, your input is really appreciated!!!!

I'm checking into monster cable and I'll look at the monoprice plugs also.

The 717 would mean waiting another 3 months, I'll have to do a little more figuring.

[SDA1C]

Have you checked Accessoriesforless.com?

http://www.accessories4less.com/make...eceiver/1.html

[Gunner105]

Yep,not much difference between them and amazon. Thanks!

[Jimbo18]

go for monoprice plugs in that price range, those sewell are brass, not copper, i have some and dont really care for them

+1 I don't like the Sewell either.

[seabeerob213]

i have some of those monster plugs as well, easy to use, but hard to fit with 11 AWG that i have, expensive too for what they are, i paid 20 for 2 pair, although the monster are very secure as well, they didnt state whether they are brass or copper, and i didnt feel like running a file over one to find out

[jeremymarcinko]

Got my 717 from newegg.com $499 shipped. Keep checking the site as the price changes often.

[fbm211]

Furez makes some pretty good pure copper bananas as well as silverplated.DH labs is also very good.

[seabeerob213]

Furez makes some pretty good pure copper bananas as well as silverplated.DH labs is also very good.

hit up helopilotdoug for those plugs, he has aa site, http://www.douglasconnection.com/ that he runs, mention your a member and he'll shave off a little bit

[teekay0007]

Got my 717 from newegg.com $499 shipped. Keep checking the site as the price changes often.

At newegg, you can request a price alert email and they'll notify you when the item's price hits that point. That way you don't have to keep checking back and wondering if you missed a price reduction. It works well, I used it for my DSWPRO550wi's.

[John K.]

Gunner, welcome to Club Polk. The Onkyo 709 at Accessories4less for about $440 including shipping is an outstanding buy. This unit is factory refurbished and carefully checked and is even more likely than a brand-new unit to be trouble-free.

As to a comparison with the 717, the 709 has been a frequent suggestion of mine, but I consider the 717 to be unacceptable. In a rather bizarre marketing move(apparently intended to separate the 818 more clearly from it)the key Audyssey provision was downgraded two steps from MultEQ XT to 2EQ, which doesn't apply room EQ to the sub channel, which probably is the area that needs it most.