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    jdhdiggs was next in line, and I don`t see anyone after him.

    If you would like to check them out let me know and I`ll shoot em your way....

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    Originally posted by dorokusai
    All the Ethereal Cable demos are closed as of 7/1/05. Please finish up your current demo, and ship the cables back to me when you get time. Email me for the address and thanks for your participation.

    dorokusai@comcast.net

    I'll let you guys know more information as to the "why" later.
    Does this mean I don't have to do a review of the video cables I'm demoing?
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    I wanted to post publically about our first member default of the FREE Polk Audio Forum Cable Swap Program(PCSP) in 1 1/2 years.

    I recently posted a request for a retraction of the Ethereal Cable demos. The reason behind this is due to the fact that a member, BRENT McCALL, an agent of Ethereal Cable, has defaulted in our most simple program rule.... "The demo-completed member should at that point contact the next participant and arrange shipping."

    Brent signed up for the Signal Cable Magic Power demo, and received the cable, yet never forwarded it to the next member.

    I don't even know if Brent demo'd the cable, but I know he recieved it and did not forward the cable to F1Nut.

    Let me clue you in on some history....

    I was turned on to Ethereal Cable by a member, who is totally not at fault in any way shape or form. I personally contacted Brent and he was very enthusiastic about donating to our program, as was I, because anything that I can add is a good thing for the group.

    It's an excellent PR thing for ANY of these companies, let alone a "startup", to get some recognition in this program IMO. Remember, not every demo has been positive, so it goes both ways, but that was the whole point of this in the end.

    We worked out a batch of cables for the demo, I made up the threads, launched the cables. I personally thought these demos would be realy cool, especially the video IC package.

    Brent was so excited about the program, that he wanted to join as well. He signed up for the Signal Cable Magic Power demo, as his company hadn't made the jump into power cables at that time.

    Hey, it's a win-win!

    Fast forward two months later.....Brent received the cable ages ago, never responded again, period. I think he replied to a thread awhile back, but you get the idea.

    I recently got fed up after leaving a few, courteous emails(Seriously, courteous), so I called him directly, beings I have his personal numbers....100% blown off. I spoke with him twice(2) on the phone, and both times have been told that he's busy and that he will call me back. I know we live in a busy world, but days/week between a call-back is extreme.

    I have TO DATE never received a call-back from Brent.

    Don't forget, Brent is an active employee OF Ethereal Cable....sales and marketing.

    I'm a really nice guy, contrary to popular belief, and it takes ALOT to set me off. Well, here we go folks....

    The program is simple, get a free demo of a product, and simply mail it to the next guy or gal. This cost can be via Next Day Air or Pony Express, who cares, just ship it.

    Brent chose to simply drop off the face of the earth, and not reciprocate anything as it pertains to the program.

    He chose to say F the Polk Forum, or at least the Program, and not really lose sleep over this subject.

    I have since, after the aforementioned phone calls, left him a couple, less than tactful perhaps messages....obviously to no avail.

    WE LOSE in this situation, as it removes a cable, temporarily, from YOUR program as I need to replace it. I have ordered a new cable, and it will be back in progress shortly.

    I view this program VERY seriously, and have way too much time invested in and around our forum, then to have a nonchalant member walk out like it doesn't matter. He obviously doesn't care about us, or our forum.

    I don't care so much about the out-of-pocket expense, that's not the point and expense has never been the point of this program. The point is simple, it's insulting to me that he couldn't just say, "Hey, man F U, I'm not sending the cable back." Instead, he takes advantage of my good nature and I let him ride.....no cable for you.

    The F you to me, implies a big FU to you as well.

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    This COULD have been a great venue for this company as I think we reach alot of people, 30K+ members.

    I encourage you to make your own decision as to the outcome and/or circumstances of all this happening. This was my choice to bring this company into the program, and I alone should be held responsible for any and all subsequent issues or developements.

    All information related to me, will be posted publically.

    If you would like to complain, and voice your opinion about this situation:

    http://www.etherealhometheater.com/

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    Technical Contact: gregs@etherealhometheater.com

    Brent may appreciate a call and/or email, just as a reminder:

    (866) 839-9187 #203

    etherealhometheater@yahoo.com

    brentm@etherealhometheater.com

    If you would like to complain to me directly, in regards to this email or the thread:

    dorokusai@comcast.net

    Thanks for your time.

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    I guess I never actually touched on the actual outcome of all this hoopla....sorry, I'm baying at the moon right now.

    I am removing the Ethereal Cable demos mainly due to the fact of the gross non-compliance by their agent. The current EC agents do not want to address this issue directly, so until I get a resolve, they will lose what I feel is their priviledge to participate in our program.
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    Beardog,

    I would love to hear your thoughts on the cables (shoot a pm).

    If no one else is in line and it looks like there is no interest, I can give you my addy and I will welcome them back home.


    Mark,

    Major bummer, man. I am sorry for you, and especially the rest of the members who seem to have been taken for a ride.

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    Zero - Thanks for your thoughts. Unless you're in dire need of the cables, let's drum up some interest first and let it ride. There's no need for you to incur later expense for shipping.

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    Zero,

    Sorry it took so long to respond, I have been getting ready to leave on vacation, and it`s been more work than vacation so far...

    I will get them in the mail as soon as I return at the end of the week....sorry for the delay

    when I get back I will pm you and post my thoughts in the post reserved for reveiws..

    Thanks for being patient..




    Mark,

    Sorry to hear about the lame inactions of a cable swap participant.

    I still think you do a hell of a job on this program, and a lot of us are in your debt for alowing us to participate and have the chance to see, or hear, as the case may be , what these cables sound like without wasting the cash on something we may not want.
    Seems everybody has been stand up and played by the rules, but every once in a while a turd floats to the top...

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    Mark,

    I will search the forum history and give the review thread a little bump to gather attention. Simply did not want to keep another responsbility on your plate, but if some members can get interested -all the better!

    In fact, in a week or so I am going to donate the Knu Konceptz Eks interconnect to the program. Will give you more information about the wire, pictures, the whole 9 yards.

    Again, sorry about Etheral. Rest assured this instance will not be forgotten and curious folk will be warned if possible.

    edit:

    Beardog, quick response.

    Hey man, no worries at all. Things happen, take all the time you need, they are just cables, after-all. In fact, you can just hang on to them for a little while longer - if you dont mind.

    Hope you can spend the rest of your vacation - as a vacation!
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    i don't know how this happen but some weird freak of nature occured at my house. and dang it. if the ETHEREAL AUDIO - SPEAKER CABLES didn't end up getting shredded by the lawn mower.

    I tell ya. i was scared to death. Chewed them up to pieces. imagine if you can.. two 6ft long ETHEREAL AUDIO - SPEAKER CABLE munched into 1,00000000000000 tiny pieces.


























    JK!

    here is the UPS tracking number to check for yourselves.
    1Z 777 E3W 03 0673 649 5

    Mark thanks for handeling this like a pro, again. Kudos to ya.
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    Can I get signed up for the venoms?

    Thanks,
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    That's too bad about Ethereal. While I didn't get blown away by their interconnects, I liked their speaker cables enough to by a set for my HT rig. I was in the process of demoing the various video cables and found them to be pretty nice. As I said, it is too bad that a particular individual is hurting his company. If he comes around and makes things right I might just purchase some more stuff from them but not until it gets straightend out (like my "huge" purchases would make any difference).

    BTW the video cables are on their way back to you Mark.
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    wow,
    have not been around this forum in a while and was in the market for some new cables and found this program...perfect!

    it would be great if i could get signed up for the SC Analog 2 and the Audioquest Diamondback lists.

    are there some other relativly inexpensive (<$100) that i am missing? dont think my system is gonig to benifit much from the really expensive ones...

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    Mark,Zero....

    WOW...just got back from Vacation (a week in puerto vallarta), and emediatly went into 16 hr days..

    not tryin to be a flake, so give me some heads up as to were these should go next...

    I don`t want to be holding the project back in any way.

    These cables could stay in the office rig indefinatly if I don`t make a move soon..!!!!

    I`m getting old , and my mind is a terrible thing thats waisted..!!

    I mean , my mind was a terrible thing to waiste...

    it`s somethin like old timers....you know what I mean..:D

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    Bear,

    How was the vacation!? Until jdhdiggs pops up out of the wood-work, feel free to hold onto the cables. I may have someone else who would like to try em' out. I'll let you know if that works out and give you the address to move em to.

    In the mean time, man - thoughts , review, you know - that stuff.

    :D

    Cheers

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    *CURRENT LINEUP*
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    Originally posted by mldennison
    wow,
    have not been around this forum in a while and was in the market for some new cables and found this program...perfect!

    it would be great if i could get signed up for the SC Analog 2 and the Audioquest Diamondback lists.

    are there some other relativly inexpensive (<$100) that i am missing? dont think my system is gonig to benifit much from the really expensive ones...
    I just added you to the rotation, sorry for the delay. Please PM or email the member that precedes yourself to exchange personal information. Thanks for joining :)

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    Sign me up for the PS Audio Prelude please. :)
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    If you are done with your demo please contact the next member in line to exchange personal information and get the cables shipped out.

    RobXtant - Where are you? Peersool is trying to get hold of you concerning the SC demo.

    Dcarlson - No problem. Please PM Spawndn72 when you get a chance.

    Trey - Are you or have you shipped the XLR's to Beardog?

    Mantis - What's your status?

    PolkThug - What's your status?

    Jdhdiggs - What's your status?

    Shizelbs - What's your status?

    If you have completed your demo, please remember to post your review in the appropriate thread. The links to the review threads are provided below the Cable Swap roster.
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    You can drop me from the DH Labs Silver Sonic demo list. I decided to buy a pair of my own. Very nice indeed and I think they will supplant the Kimber PBJ's in my system. Thanks! ;)

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    Hey, I just discovered this whole demo thing. I would love to demo every one of those expensive cables, but realistically I probably couldn't afford them. Do you have a price list for these? I was interested in signal cable, but wasn't sure of the prices for the others. If you had a price list for these that would be lovely...


    hopefully it isn't listed in the pages from 3-19 because I read the first three but decided I should skip the next 16.


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    Chris - I do not list the prices. All of that information is easily found on the internet, and the review threads contain links to the manufacturers or POC(e.g. DH Labs, "Venom")

    There is only one cable that exceeds $100, and that was only because of a recent 2005 price increase across the board. It was $95 last year.

    I wanted to keep all the cables slotted in a reasonable price bracket for everyone to enjoy.

    The objective isn't to change peoples minds or have them spend money, especially more money than may be neccesary. It exists to allow the individual the opportunity to form their own opinion about this subject, instead of riding the wave of someone else's opinion.

    Please feel free to pick a few and sign up, you're more than welcome to check them out. Thanks for reading the earlier stuff :)

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    Th PS preludes have been sent to JDhdiggs. He was higher on the list than I was, but becasue he was out of town they got sent to me first. The only cables I have are the Etherial Audio and the Nordost solar winds.

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    I have the Signal Cable Silver Resolutions. Will post my thoughts.

    Doro, the link to the review post is screwed up, I keep getting the SCMP review.
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    jdh, do you still live at 430 Tall Oaks?

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    AQ King Cobra sent.
    Homegrown audio sent.

    Need Canadian phone number for dcarlson.

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    Originally posted by PolkThug
    jdh, do you still live at 430 Tall Oaks?
    Nope, about 2,000 miles NE of there. I'm out on this game. Gotta send the Preludes out this week and I won't be dabbling in this test anymore...
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    Originally posted by jdhdiggs
    Nope, about 2,000 miles NE of there. I'm out on this game. Gotta send the Preludes out this week and I won't be dabbling in this test anymore...
    uh oh....

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    Nobody left on the Homegrown list. Back to Doro or who's next?

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    I would like to demo the homegrown's. Let me know if that's ok.

    Thanks,
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