My used separates nightmare (or how I went Emo)

[DSkip]

Dude! You can't really do that, can you? If you can, and you don't have a booking manager, let's talk!! Oh, man, I can have you booked up through 2015 by Monday - starting with my nephew's birthday party on the 11th of this month! Now...and I'm just talkin' about if it's just vocals. If you can master instruments...nuances, or no nuances...Oh My God! Then, the sky's the limit!

Yeah but, no matter how much he practices, its still gonna sound sh***y.

[ZLTFUL]

He's here all week folks!

[cowtrimmer]

Song Please..
Oh and while were at I think it's you guys and your golden ears that need to work for CERN..

Dont feed the 20,000 post troll. He isnt capable of passing by a Emotive post.

[Jhayman]

Another useful post, from the .02 cent fan club, lol
FYI look again at who it is that can't leave EMO threads alone..

Dont feed the 20,000 post troll. He isnt capable of passing by a Emotive post.

[Drenis]

Just had to add your 0.02 cents in eh..
Even though I have my music selection selected for me already by Ztful..
Why do you care so much..
I just don't like people who post only to stir the pot.
This thread would not have moved again if it were not for F1nut's trolling post..
Him being such a valued member should know better.

The only thing trolling here is your post count. Don't be ignorant. There are some wonderful and very knowledgeable people here. If you refuse to step outside the box and try things then you must be stubborn in person too. How else do you form your opinions?

[heiney9]

I agree with F1

[kuntasensei]

I agree with F1

About which part... the drinking of the Kool-Aid?

Screw you guys... I'm gonna go watch Schindler's List now. Heh...

[Jhayman]

You must have bought some expensive Kool-Aid as well being all pent up living in the snow capital of our Beautiful Country..
I could care less who's on this forum or what they have done, is that supposed to mean something to me.
All I see is someone who is a so called respected member of this forum posting trolling remarks for no other reason than to stir the pot..

The only thing trolling here is your post count. Don't be ignorant. There are some wonderful and very knowledgeable people here. If you refuse to step outside the box and try things then you must be stubborn in person too. How else do you form your opinions?

[ROHfan]

F1nut started the degeneration of this thread with his Jim Jones comparison.

Oh, big freakin deal! Ya know, F1 and I had words some time ago and if I'm being honest, I can accept the blame for that. But this forum helped me grow up a little the more I got into it and, although F1 comes off arrogant at times, I'm grateful he's been PMing me with help choosing an amp. Even if I disagree with some of his opinions I still really appreciate the effort. So I take such little barbs with a grain of salt now. I was lucky enough to learn to bend a little and how to take the cotton out of my ears and put it in my mouth and listen. A little humility has helped me a great deal here.

[Loud & Clear]

The UPA-200 for $349 is an absolute steal. I prefer this piece to the more expensive XPA-2. A 125/200 power amp with some finesse at that price, new, is quite an accomplishment. I'm amazed. I'm also really impressed with the LSi7s, particularly for $299 new. I like the 7s better than the 9s in my room. Amp and speakers playing very well with one another. There are good deals out there even when buying new.

[F1nut]

I just don't like people who post only to stir the pot.

You must really hate yourself in that case.

[F1nut]

So he's multifaceted.

Well, I am bad and nationwide, so yeah......

[tonyb]

Bored tonight Jess ?

[Jhayman]

He's back King of the one line troll posts..
See these threads are entertaining just look at all the members viewing the thread just waiting to see what's said next, lol

You must really hate yourself in that case.

[F1nut]

Bored tonight Jess ?

Just a bit, probably more spent than anything.

[pepster]

He's back King of the one line troll posts..
See these threads are entertaining just look at all the members viewing the thread just waiting to see what's said next, lol

Ummmm......Jesse can take care of himself.
I think you might find something better to post about if you look around.

[polkfarmboy]

This threads giving me ........ BPTSD Binding post traumatic stress disorder

[tonyb]

This threads giving me ........ BPTSD Binding post traumatic stress disorder

LOL...at least you have a sense of humor over it.

I'll try and find a towel for all the other cry babies...

[pepster]

This threads giving me ........ BPTSD Binding post traumatic stress disorder

They have pills for that now!

[Polkie2009]

This threads giving me ........ BPTSD Binding post traumatic stress disorder

LOL! Too funny PFB! Please don't tell us it was an Emotiva amp that you jacked up the binding posts on.

[F1nut]

Just thinking back over the years at all the flavor of the month amps that have rolled thru Club Polk and I'm reminded that this too shall pass, which also reminds me that in this hobby there are no gaint killers.

[kuntasensei]

Just thinking back over the years at all the flavor of the month amps that have rolled thru Club Polk and I'm reminded that this too shall pass, which also reminds me that in this hobby there are no gaint killers.

Flavor of the month? Sure seems like people have been riding this train for quite some time now, with spats like this popping up almost every time. I mean, I've seen amp companies pop up and get evangelized for a while (Outlaw comes to mind), but in my time here, I have never seen a brand (other than Bose) catch so much unsolicited flak. You can't mention the name here without it turning into... well, THIS THREAD. And it's bad to the extent that I've seen people on other forums actually mention that you shouldn't bother talking about Emotiva at Club Polk.

I don't mind it if you have some sort of brand-based disdain or whatever against Emotiva. That's your bag. But knowing how this sort of thing has always turned out on this forum, why keep poking the bear? Hell, when I started this thread, I was honestly thinking maybe I shouldn't bother... because of crap like this. And it isn't like I'm new to the forum - I've been here as long as you. It also isn't like I was standing on the mountain proclaiming Emo as the second coming, though I'm still pretty damn impressed in comparison to the Adcom and Parasounds (when all their channels worked). But when it gets to the point that a long-time forum user such as me doesn't even want to post about a piece of equipment here because of the inevitable firestorm that happens EVERY SINGLE TIME, I think it's time to reevaluate things. Giving people crap over them liking a piece of equipment or a particular brand of amplifier just doesn't help anyone.

But ultimately, whatever... While you guys were still prattling on here, I watched the Blu-ray of Schindler's List, and the score sounded absolutely fantastic. And I wasn't drinking Kool-Aid... It was Hawaiian Punch.

[BlueFox]

Maybe if you guys would quit being so defensive, and stop taking every tease as a personal insult, then you wouldn't get teased as much. It's nice to like your gear. That's why we buy it, but, in the end, you get what you pay for. Nothing more, and nothing less.

[seabeerob213]

You must have bought some expensive Kool-Aid as well being all pent up living in the snow capital of our Beautiful Country..
I could care less who's on this forum or what they have done, is that supposed to mean something to me.
All I see is someone who is a so called respected member of this forum posting trolling remarks for no other reason than to stir the pot..

i think he stockpiled the kool-aid and survived on it while he was snowed in

[pepster]

Schindler's List

Excellent movie!

[Loud & Clear]

Maybe if you guys would quit being so defensive, and stop taking every tease as a personal insult, then you wouldn't get teased as much. It's nice to like your gear. That's why we buy it, but, in the end, you get what you pay for. Nothing more, and nothing less.

People should be respectful of other people's gear. Period. Only A-holes would do otherwise. Yes, you do get what you pay for, for better or for worse.

[headrott]

ME!!!!!
(I thought I would get at least one (important) word in here)

[heiney9]

I've said it before, I'll state it again. Emo is really good entry level HT gear. Beyond that, one can do better (If they choose to) without trying too hard for 2 channel rig. I am just as entitled to my opinion as those who have their Emo shrines.

H9

[kuntasensei]

See, it's stuff like "Emo shrines" that I'm talking about. I'm not placing the brand on a pedestal. Neither was anyone else in this thread. Nor am I saying that you can't do better for a 2-channel rig... 'cause hell, I'm using RTi70s - not exactly well-liked, even in Polk's lineage of speakers, so it isn't like I'm rockin' a high-end system. I'm also not being defensive, as if I take personal offense to people downing Emotiva. I just don't understand the disrespect people exhibit for this one particular brand, or the outright smack-talk that results every single time they're mentioned here. Maybe it's just me, but if you don't like a brand and people are having a discussion about it, why do people feel it necessary to thread-crap every time, as if it threatens them somehow? It's just odd to me. After my experience, I don't really care for Adcom amps... but I'm not going to tell people who use them that they're "drinking the Kool-Aid" or go into Adcom threads and be a smartass to anyone. That's childish.

Not that any of this matters, ultimately... 'cause I'm pretty happy with the sound of the XPA-3 with my speakers. More so than I have been with the GFA-5503 or the HCA-2003 in my particular setup. That's what matters to me - not the name on the front of it or the bizarre hatred for the brand as if they're some kind of cult. I'd just like people to be a little more respectful and keep the back-handed elitism out of the discussion. We're all here because we love audio... There is no sense in all this derision.

[rdb2001]

See, it's stuff like "Emo shrines" that I'm talking about. I'm not placing the brand on a pedestal. Neither was anyone else in this thread. Nor am I saying that you can't do better for a 2-channel rig... 'cause hell, I'm using RTi70s - not exactly well-liked, even in Polk's lineage of speakers, so it isn't like I'm rockin' a high-end system. I'm also not being defensive, as if I take personal offense to people downing Emotiva. I just don't understand the disrespect people exhibit for this one particular brand, or the outright smack-talk that results every single time they're mentioned here. Maybe it's just me, but if you don't like a brand and people are having a discussion about it, why do people feel it necessary to thread-crap every time, as if it threatens them somehow? It's just odd to me. After my experience, I don't really care for Adcom amps... but I'm not going to tell people who use them that they're "drinking the Kool-Aid" or go into Adcom threads and be a smartass to anyone. That's childish.

Not that any of this matters, ultimately... 'cause I'm pretty happy with the sound of the XPA-3 with my speakers. More so than I have been with the GFA-5503 or the HCA-2003 in my particular setup. That's what matters to me - not the name on the front of it or the bizarre hatred for the brand as if they're some kind of cult. I'd just like people to be a little more respectful and keep the back-handed elitism out of the discussion. We're all here because we love audio... There is no sense in all this derision.

Enjoy the music brother. Your ears are all that matters. That dared that he sing so much praise about was the biggest piece of crap I ever had in my home. I don't come on here and bash it when someone praises it. I just went out and bought a real tube pre, well make that 2 real tube pres. The stuff he calls junk is made in the same place his beloved dared is. I guess thats the pot calling the kettle black. Ignore it, and enjoy it. We both know that emo is not be all end all. What I find crazy is the people that did own them here did not have the 2 channel verison or the monos but they were doing critical listening but then they upgraded to a more expensive 2 channel amp and now everything is great. There are some good multi-channel amps out there but most can't compete with a 2 channel or mono amp for critical listening. Even emo snobs will say that the monos and 2 channel amps are a step above all of the multi channel amps.

Glad you did what I did and listened for yourself. I guess our ears are terrible. I have talked with people that are running 20-25k dynaudio, revel, and other high priced towers on the xpr1's. One guy has owned pass, octave, and has a properly treated room. He was on the fence like me until he got them in home. Needless to say, they stayed.