My used separates nightmare (or how I went Emo)

[Jhayman]

Horse caw caw, just elitist snobs being them selves..
On wanted to be the one who said WoW they really have something here.
20 secs, your mind was already made up, lol

[F1nut]

Is there a thread on here about Adcom with bashing going on?
Or your Dared with bashing?
Show me any other thread with bashing like this one..
Can't find any? Why?

So, if someone has anything negative to say about a product it's bashing!?! Too funny.

There's plenty of negative comments about Adcom amps around here. I saw a negative comment about Dared the other day. I'd say there's most likely a negative comment about every piece of gear in these pages. I don't recall other folks calling it bashing tho.

[F1nut]

Horse caw caw, just elitist snobs being them selves..
On wanted to be the one who said WoW they really have something here.
20 secs, your mind was already made up, lol

The way the brain processes information I'd say 20 seconds was plenty long enough. I walked into a Legacy room at a show last year, was making my way to a seat, but stopped short, turned around and walked out because it sounded horrible. One of the worst I'd heard in a while. It may have taken 20 seconds total by the time I got back to the door. If that makes me an elitist snob, then I'm happy to be one.

[sucks2beme]

There are certainly 20 second judgements passed every day on all things audio.
About 10 seconds with a pair of beats was enough for me.

[Jhayman]

Sure but every time EMO is brought up this happens, not just a comment here or there but a full on bashing..

So, if someone has anything negative to say about a product it's bashing!?! Too funny.

There's plenty of negative comments about Adcom amps around here. I saw a negative comment about Dared the other day. I'd say there's most likely a negative comment about every piece of gear in these pages. I don't recall other folks calling it bashing tho.

[Jhayman]

So if you hooked a set of Mit's you would not give them a chance?
I guess you don't do any reviews.

The way the brain processes information I'd say 20 seconds was plenty long enough. I walked into a Legacy room at a show last year, was making my way to a seat, but stopped short, turned around and walked out because it sounded horrible. One of the worst I'd heard in a while. It may have taken 20 seconds total by the time I got back to the door. If that makes me an elitist snob, then I'm happy to be one.

[zane77]

C'mon give it up, if you like your Emo gear, that's great. If you don't like it, that's great too. Everybody enjoy what they like or have, stick around, lot's of good info on this forum. Please everyone, take a deep breath.

[BlueFox]

Damn not again..
No responses for almost 12hrs, lol
Tubes may rule but once all the old timers relinquish their audio torches Tubes will be Gone Forever.
Me thinks the old timers feel threatened by Emo, which fuels all their hatred..
I say Grey hair go in Peace and leave Emo alone..

Has to be one of the most assinine things I've heard in a long time.

He is just trolling. Notice how there has been no "bashing" of Emotiva in this thread, but the mentally weak continue to cry that there is. Isn't it some form of mental illness when one sees things that are not there?

Anyway, it's good to have the occasional troll, since they are amusing.

[brgman]

EMO is the YUGO of HiFi.
Couldn't resist.

[Inspector 24]

Allow me to butt in here and change the topic...again...

I'm the guy the OP purchased the amp from and having been screwed by people who did a deplorable job packing a delicate 75lb peice of metal I was sure to properly protect the amp. Packing consisted of placing the amp in a garbage bag, surrounding it with a layer of 2" thick foam insulation board from Home Depot and placing it in a heavy duty Home Depot moving box. I too pictures of the packing process and even made movies of the speakers playing clearly before I packaged it up, just in case UPS were idiots.

Pics:
http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/show...=1#post1823843

While the amp was prevented from shifting around inside the box I wonder if the foam was too firm, not able to absorb impacts and vibrations good enough, thus transmitting it into the chassis, so UPS could have dropped it fairly hard without damaging the box, but all the impact went right into the amp.

I empathize with the OP, I've recieved two bad amps myself, the first a HCA-1206 with two bad channels, far worse than what Jeremy is describing, the second had fist sized holes in the box from the amp shifting around...because they only used packing peanuts!!!!

That said I'm glad you've found some audio peace! I know that heart sinking feeling when something in your rig doesn't work. Absolutely terrible. Enjoy that puppy, and do let us know if you're able to fix the Parasound. I'd love to know what got broken!

[Drenis]

Really, you would say otherwise?

I sure would.

I'd be interested in seeing you provide some factual information that supports your claims or... opinions

Don't have any? Why?

[Jhayman]

Some things you just know..considering tubes are older anyway..
Therefore the logical conclusion would be old audiophile's know tubes vs younger people getting into audio probably have never even heard of tubes and if they do know of tubes would presume that it is a much older way for music..
Think about classic cars from the 40's and 50's it's an older mans hobby..

[cstmar01]

Some things you just know..considering tubes are older anyway..
Therefore the logical conclusion would be old audiophile's know tubes vs younger people getting into audio probably have never even heard of tubes and if they do know of tubes would presume that it is a much older way for music..
Think about classic cars from the 40's and 50's it's an older mans hobby..

Nope

[F1nut]

Not even close!

[brgman]

Some things you just know..considering tubes are older anyway..
Therefore the logical conclusion would be old audiophile's know tubes vs younger people getting into audio probably have never even heard of tubes and if they do know of tubes would presume that it is a much older way for music..
Think about classic cars from the 40's and 50's it's an older mans hobby..

Like how Vinyl has disappeared?

[txcoastal1]

If tubes were old you would only find them in vintage gear, and would not be able to hardly find tubes at all.

[Jhayman]

Vinyl is making a big comeback now, just do a quick Google search about vinyl I did..
I love vinyl I listen to it everyday since I got back into it again.

Like how Vinyl has disappeared?

[Jhayman]

Never said you can't find them anymore, but they did get there start many many years ago..
Then SS took over for obvious reasons, I'm not saying its only older people that are into, just more than 50%

If tubes were old you would only find them in vintage gear, and would not be able to hardly find tubes at all.

[DSkip]

Vinyl is making a big comeback now, just do a quick Google search about vinyl I did..
I love vinyl I listen to it everyday since I got back into it again.

Funny post.

[mhardy6647]

"obvious reasons", eh? ;-)

[Jhayman]

Guess I have to spell it out for you..
Economical and manufacturing and the advancements of the SS industry

"obvious reasons", eh? ;-)

[Jhayman]

Come on, are you really going to tell me vinyl did not have a HUGE decline when compact disk was introduced?

Funny post.

[DSkip]

Come on, are you really going to tell me vinyl did not have a HUGE decline when compact disk was introduced?

No, it was the fact that his sarcasm went over your head.

[F1nut]

Vinyl is making a big comeback now, just do a quick Google search about vinyl I did..

LOL.....big eh? IIRC, it's less than 1% of the market share according to the RIAA.

[Jhayman]

Sorry..

No, it was the fact that his sarcasm went over your head.

[Jhayman]

Ok whatever you say, what I read was a steady increase in vinyl sales from 2006 to 2012 with the biggest jump in 2012
Watching my local news stations I have seen them actually say that Vinyl is makeing a comeback and to NOT throw out your records keep them..

LOL.....big eh? IIRC, it's less than 1% of the market share according to the RIAA.

[txcoastal1]

Come on, are you really going to tell me vinyl did not have a HUGE decline when compact disk was introduced?

If you want to make that type of comparisons then the phrases "solid state" and "compact disk" would be old too...since digital downloads and ear buds are the new tech

[lightman1]

I like funnel cakes and puppy kisses!

[sucks2beme]

Pick a budget and your speakers, and go with whatever works with your budget and
sounds best. If in your case if it was EMO, then great. If your budget is bigger and it's not
Emo, also great. I have a pretty decent SS amp, and a good tube amp. If I need lots of
clean power, SS it is. The Hales liked power. The Proacs I'm currently running sound best
with the ARC. Tubes in that set up win. I wasn't happy to hear of troubles with used amps.
been there, done that. Here in DFW In have a great selection of used, new, and local dealer trade ins.
And not having to ship amps makes me happy. The only thing worse is shipping speakers. I get to see UPS
and Fedex drop stuff here all the time, and just last week I saw UPS slide a server off the trunk,
and smack down flat on the street. It was ok, but it gives a pretty good picture of why stuff doesn't
survive shipping.

[headrott]

Could it be that the motive (or Emotivas) of Emo lovers is to portray non-Emo lovers as "bashing" their brand and have high hopes of getting these "Emo bashers" really really worked up to a frenzy to say something to get the "Emo bashers" banned? Could that be one of the motives (Emotivas)? Ok, maybe I'm reaching here............