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    I wish they would make the 703 spec speaker in a tower. I hate bookshelfs (stands look bad), don't want to pony up the extra dough for the 705/707 nor do i want the subs built into the speaker.

    Do you think they could do this and make a viable product? They do something similar in the lower level lines, just wondering if they don't want to lose customers that would buy the pricier models?

    Does anyone else feels the same way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by plainoledave View Post
    I wish they would make the 703 spec speaker in a tower. I hate bookshelfs (stands look bad), don't want to pony up the extra dough for the 705/707 nor do i want the subs built into the speaker.

    Do you think they could do this and make a viable product? They do something similar in the lower level lines, just wondering if they don't want to lose customers that would buy the pricier models?

    Does anyone else feels the same way?
    The issue you run into is that if they did that they would have a totally different tuning frequency for the drivers given the extra space in the bottom cabinet, unless they sealed that section off.

    Personally there are LOTS of good stand options, they simply are not super cheap. Skyland makes great stands and there are some other really good ones (forget the brand name) that are adjustable and have wood sides and look downright sexy.

    Problem is most folks dont want to spend money on good ones and instead end up with crappy ones giving the illusion stands cant look good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by plainoledave View Post
    I wish they would make the 703 spec speaker in a tower. I hate bookshelfs (stands look bad), don't want to pony up the extra dough for the 705/707 nor do i want the subs built into the speaker.

    Do you think they could do this and make a viable product? They do something similar in the lower level lines, just wondering if they don't want to lose customers that would buy the pricier models?

    Does anyone else feels the same way?
    For 2 channel I find the 705 towers my favorite. It's a more balanced speaker than the rest IMO. Nothing wrong sound wish with having built in bass drivers. I like the extra low end punch over the bookies. I'd say pony up and grab the towers which IMO the speakers are the most important part of a system.

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    I would be fine with them sealing off the cabinet. Maybe i should just bite the bullet and buy the 705's.

    Edit: Good idea, Leroy. Do you still have your 705 for sale? That is your ad on Milwaukee CL, right?
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    They still have one midnight 703 left at Polk's eBay store. If someone doesn't buy it soon I will.

    They also have 3 cherry 705s left for $1,019.96 per speaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plainoledave View Post
    ...I hate bookshelfs (stands look bad)...
    Get over it.

    Quote Originally Posted by plainoledave View Post
    ...nor do i want the subs built into the speaker...
    What do you mean you don't want "subs" built into the speaker? They really aren't "sub-woofers" in the the conventional sense, since they aren't powered; they're just normal drivers that play lower frequencies. Why don't you want your speaker to be capable of playing lower frequencies?


    I have owned all three models. I literally A/B/C'd them all next to each other in my 2-channel system. My results were somewhat expected: the 707 is the best performing model, followed by the 705, followed by the 703; however, the 703 is the best value of the bunch, hands down, and that's the one I kept. The thing all these LSiM's do that's really special is the midrange and high-frequencies. None of them have great bass... which is why the 703's are the best value: you get all the magic of the sonic engine without paying extra for bass that's not great anyway. I went with the 703's plus dual SVS subs for less than either of the towers would have cost alone... I have great bass.

    Some people prefer the 705 to the 707, citing "bloated" or "over-exaggerated" bass on the 707. I do not find this to be the case at all. Bass is a very room-dependent attribute, and in my room, on the my gear, the 707's were king... but the 707's by themselves can't touch my 703's plus dual SVS's.
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    They aren't really subs? Maybe polk should update their spec sheet for the 705 and 707 because it clearly states "subwoofer quanity 2" for both the 705 and 707.

    To answer your question, I don't listen to bass heavy music, i actually am *almost* happy with the level of bass provided by my lsi7's for the music i listen to, so i assume the 703 in a reconfigured as a floorstander would be sufficient? If i only wanted a "smidge" (technical term, that) more bass, i think i could forgo the subwoofers (or whatever is more correct to call them). Another reason for this is I am cheap. I do not want to pay $3-4K for a set of speakers but do not want stands.

    Sorry for the snark. I appreciate the informative portion of your reply to my question.

    I think i'll let my honeymoon with these 7's end before i buy another set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plainoledave View Post
    ...i actually am *almost* happy with the level of bass provided by my lsi7's for the music i listen to, so i assume the 703 in a reconfigured as a floorstander would be sufficient?
    The 703 as-is would be sufficient. Get over your stand-phobia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by plainoledave View Post
    I would be fine with them sealing off the cabinet. Maybe i should just bite the bullet and buy the 705's.


    Edit: Good idea, Leroy. Do you still have your 705 for sale? That is your ad on Milwaukee CL, right?

    I'm keeping mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by falconcry72 View Post
    The 703 as-is would be sufficient. Get over your stand-phobia.
    I gotta go with the Falcon on this one. My next purchase (when all the pennies are saved) is an upgrade to some 703s. And yes, I'll probably use some "stands", lol!

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    thanks for all your opinions. I guess i asked for the derision by pining for something that doesn't exist. They did similar things with the monitor 40 and 50 as well as offering subwoofer-less options on the rt rti and rtia towers, so i guess i was hoping they'd do the same with the lsim. I guess since they didn't do that with lsi I am a silly to dream.

    Speaking of LSI towers, do i dare complain that i can't buy them due the side firing sub not working in my room or will that stir another potential argument?

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    Quote Originally Posted by plainoledave View Post
    thanks for all your opinions. I guess i asked for the derision by pining for something that doesn't exist. They did similar things with the monitor 40 and 50 as well as offering subwoofer-less options on the rt rti and rtia towers, so i guess i was hoping they'd do the same with the lsim. I guess since they didn't do that with lsi I am a silly to dream.

    Speaking of LSI towers, do i dare complain that i can't buy them due the side firing sub not working in my room or will that stir another potential argument?
    How does it not work? Bass/lower frequencies are omnidirectional (hence front, rear and side firing sub options) so it doesnt matter what direction they are. I know folks that have even switched the right and left so the woofer fired inward for giggles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EndersShadow View Post
    How does it not work? Bass/lower frequencies are omnidirectional (hence front, rear and side firing sub options) so it doesnt matter what direction they are. I know folks that have even switched the right and left so the woofer fired inward for giggles.
    That's good to know. I was taking the word of someone who i assumed knew better but apparently they didn't. I honestly don't know what i need to know, don't claim to as you can tell from my comments and low post count.

    Maybe i should just pack it up at this point. It was fun.

    G'day!

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    You could always do a custom stand to match the speakers. There are very few speakers companies that do that, but I know Wilson Audio used to make a stand for the WATT called the Gibralter that made it look like a floorstander if you didn't want the Puppy section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plainoledave View Post
    Speaking of LSI towers, do i dare complain that i can't buy them due the side firing sub not working in my room or will that stir another potential argument?
    Some do switch the front left and right so that the woofers face inward. If the design of the LSI or LSIM's don't work for you, there are no less than a thousand other speakers out there that no doubt would. Polk makes fine speakers, but they also have lots of company in that regard so no need to limit yourself to one brand if they don't work for your room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plainoledave View Post
    Speaking of LSI towers, do i dare complain that i can't buy them due the side firing sub not working in my room or will that stir another potential argument?
    I find that you have to give them space from the side walls or the bass can sound muffled for lack of a better word. Switching the R/L as Enders suggested could solve that I suppose, but I've never tried it.

    I kind of like your original idea, but I'm sure enough research has gone into it to determine that it wouldn't sell...at least not for the price you'd have to charge. Most people would either get the basic bookie or move up to the "real" tower.
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    Like the RT35i and RT600i, etc.

    Lots of companies, including Polk, have over-developed speaker lines. Maybe TOO many choices. Polk must feel really good about the 3 LSiM designes they have and don't feel the need to fill in with another bookshelf and another tower. The 703 is a farily large bookshelf. Can't see making a bigger one. And a smaller one would be tough to make and still incoporate 3 drivers. I guess a smaller tower could have been done. Something just south of 40" tall and less expensive. Personally I would just learn to like the look of the stands. ;>}

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    If he's looking for a LSiM layout in a tower check out the Usher DSkip and Marvda1 have... though I believe sonically they are a MUCH different animal lol....
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    As far as bass being omnidirectional: in theory that may be true, but in practice it's always mattered which direction a subwoofer is facing (up, down, side). At least in my rooms.

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    Designs. Not sure why I put an e in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EndersShadow View Post
    If he's looking for a LSiM layout in a tower check out the Usher DSkip and Marvda1 have... though I believe sonically they are a MUCH different animal lol....
    Very different animals. The 6311 is a two-way design, essentially a tower of the X-718. Marvin has 6381's that are much larger than mine (incorporates an 8" subwoofer) and the MD2, which is a MTM design. I actually prefer mine over any Polk speaker I've heard, including all LSiM's. YMMV.
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