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    Default Speaker wires....should I purchase higher gauge??

    I have an older entry level Onkyo HTIB and just upgraded to polk tsi300s and a CS20. Should I buy different speaker wire and use instead of what can with the Onkyo speakers??? Thank you.
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    Yes !!! Get new wire.

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    If you stick around here long enough you'll encounter one of our perennial flaming cable debates! But I'm pretty sure that even the skeptics would "agree" that a higher quality lower gauge copper wire will yield acoustic benefits! So yes, get rid of that cheap Onkyo cable and get some LOWER gauge cable. (At the very least, 14 gauge).

    You mean "lower" gauge as 14 is thicker than 16 which is thicker than 18, etc.!

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    Thanks guys I appreciate the help......

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    since you did not state the model of the Onkyo or say what type of speaker connectors it has. May have a defining approach on what guage of wire you will be able to use. If your Onkyo has banana plugs you are in great shape and size wil not be an issues, but if it has spring loaded or close cap type then you may be limited to 14-16 or higher.
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    If you want to get new wire for the Onkyo then your best bet is to buy the heavy gauge wire from mono price. I used the monprice wire with my onkyo and it was fantastic, I even did an A to B comparison with cheap panasonic htib type wire and the difference was astounding. The monoprice wire really opened the speaker wide up and it sounded soooooo much better than the other htib wire that was thinner than noodles

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    Rofl...I agree 100%. Upgrade your wire..

    Quote Originally Posted by cnh View Post
    If you stick around here long enough you'll encounter one of our perennial flaming cable debates! But I'm pretty sure that even the skeptics would "agree" that a higher quality lower gauge copper wire will yield acoustic benefits! So yes, get rid of that cheap Onkyo cable and get some LOWER gauge cable. (At the very least, 14 gauge).

    You mean "lower" gauge as 14 is thicker than 16 which is thicker than 18, etc.!

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    Definitely have a look at Blue Jeans, as Face suggests above.

    Good cables at reasonable prices, and they will make them to fit for you.
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    www.knukonceptz.com I like the !0 gauge good stuff 492 copper strands
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    Quote Originally Posted by cnh View Post
    If you stick around here long enough you'll encounter one of our perennial flaming cable debates! But I'm pretty sure that even the skeptics would "agree" that a higher quality lower gauge copper wire will yield acoustic benefits! So yes, get rid of that cheap Onkyo cable and get some LOWER gauge cable. (At the very least, 14 gauge).

    You mean "lower" gauge as 14 is thicker than 16 which is thicker than 18, etc.!

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    My current receiver has the spring loaded, but will be upgrading receiver hopefully in the next couple of months

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    After using the same wire for speaker cables for a long time don't the copper wires get all clogged up with neutrinos that prevent the flow of electrons from the amp to the speakers?

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    I like to use 4/0 welding cable for my setup!

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    If you wanted a serious answer, check this out:
    http://www.webervst.com/gauge.htm

    Put in your amp's rated power, the ohm rating of your speaker, the length of the cable run, and hit calculate. That will give you the minimum ideal cable gauge that you should use. Keep in mind that using a better gauge than that will increase damping factor (the amp's ability to bring the driver to a halt) at the speaker itself. You can see this effect here:
    http://www.bcae1.com/dampfact.htm
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    Good suggestion.

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    Yes. I would get higher gauge cables

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    Hi guys I'm new to the home theatre game and this speaker gauge question gots me wondering about my own set up. I have a denon avr with polk speakers hooked up by 16 gauge rocket fish speaker wire, am I wrong by using this size and type of wire? I thought my set up sounded good but now u guys got me wondering if it can sound better with different wire. Any help is very much appreciated.

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    See the links in my post above. Whether you'll hear a difference, who knows? But you want to at least use the minimum gauge wire required to get ideal signal to your speakers.

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    knukonceptz has a flee bay store they have 8 gauge twisted tinned oxygen free copper 805 strands per conductor for $1.65 per foot plus $5 dollars shipping
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    Just ordered some speaker cable from blue jeans for my fronts and center channel can't wait to hook them up. I'm curious to see if it makes a difference in sound

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