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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff4rfc View Post
    Chip, if you can swing the XPR-5, jump on it, of course it's recommended that the amp has it's own dedicated 20amp circuit. Otherwise, the XPA-5 would be a great thing for your set up.

    I'm running the XPA-3 and 2. A 5ch amp would work great in my set up, some day......
    Geoff4rfc - I was just looking at the tc60i's and noticed that they recommend a max of 125w/c. I was thinking that a good three channel amp, like the xpa-3 for the fronts and center would be a great first step. Maybe it isn't that big a deal...I am such a novice at this that I just don't want to make a mistake. Once I sell it to the wife it is hard to switch things up if not right the first time.

    Thanks for your advice.

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    chiptouz, do you feel something is lacking with your current AVR?
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    Quote Originally Posted by F1nut View Post
    chiptouz, do you feel something is lacking with your current AVR?
    F1nut,

    You know I don't know. I hear all of you talking on the forums about how most AVR's don't really give enough power to really make the speakers sound like they were designed for. I want to get the most out of my current setup so I guess I just don't know if I am lacking in the power department. For me I rarely get to listen to a movie at the max volume that I have my avr set to (-10). So within these lower power ranges would an external amp give me better sound, etc. I am not looking for max volume and rocking out the subdivision, I just want a solid experience. Can I live with what I have, sure. I really don't know if I am missing anything and to me when I put in a great mixed movie such as Tron: Legacy I am blown away with the 7.1. But to me I am like this sounds great, but would it sound even better with a more powerful external amp....So far I really love the Denon and it has been the best AVR I have owned..
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    It can always sound better. Say you got an amp for the fronts and it improves the sound. Well, just think what it would sound like with an amp for each channel. Then, a dedicated pre/pro, then better cables, etc.

    Anyway, if you don't get an amp you'll never know, right? If it doesn't do anything for you, you can always sell it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F1nut View Post
    It can always sound better. Say you got an amp for the fronts and it improves the sound. Well, just think what it would sound like with an amp for each channel. Then, a dedicated pre/pro, then better cables, etc.

    Anyway, if you don't get an amp you'll never know, right? If it doesn't do anything for you, you can always sell it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chiptouz View Post
    I am not looking for max volume and rocking out the subdivision, I just want a solid experience. Can I live with what I have, sure. I really don't know if I am missing anything and to me when I put in a great mixed movie such as Tron: Legacy I am blown away with the 7.1. But to me I am like this sounds great, but would it sound even better with a more powerful external amp....So far I really love the Denon and it has been the best .
    This is probably the same expression every member here has had in the beginning of their H.T./media experience.

    I reasoned with myself; to me, I've got a great sounding system, I don't need to pound the volume, will spending "all" that money make the difference to make it worth while???????

    In a nutshell, what adding an amp did for me; it has increased my CD collection.

    So yeah, adding amplification to your system can be very beneficial, especially for action movies when your speakers are requiring power from the power supply, or, if you're into 2ch music, supplying a larger amount of power to your mains over what your AVR can supply can and will give your music a richer experience.

    I can say this for sure, if you add an amp to your system, it won't sound worse
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    Thank you both for your advice. I think I will take the plunge the next sale that comes up. I might start with an xpa-3 and then pick up an xpa-5 later if I think the rear and rear surround need the extra oomph.
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    Something to consider, one tends to get what they pay for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F1nut View Post
    Something to consider, one tends to get what they pay for.
    You just can't help yourself can you? The OP doesn't know what an emo hater you are.

    Nobody was pushing brands on this guy for one thing, just encouraging him to go into another level of this experience. And then you throw in the element of doubt to his decision.

    I don't care who you are, that's just not cool

    Let's take a closer look at what you pay for when you purchase an emotive amp; an amplifier that actually does it's job, a five year warranty, free shipping, a company that cares about their customers, a price point that comes in thousands of dollars less than other companies.

    Uhh yeah, I'm pretty happy with what I got for what I paid for, thanks for pointing that out F1
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    Let's take a closer look at what you pay for when you purchase an emotive amp; an amplifier that actually does it's job, a five year warranty, free shipping, a company that cares about their customers, a price point that comes in thousands of dollars less than other companies.
    What does any of that matter when the sound quality isn't there?
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    While not the OP and I hope he doesn't think I hijacked the thread I understand that you get what you pay for and sometimes what you pay for is the name too. I am sure most audiophiles have as much $ in one speaker as I have in my entire system. While some of the big name HT dealers in STL wont even try to help you they can take their adcom and macintosh and cater to their 1%. For me, who is just trying to break into external amps and hopefully separates in the future (when my Denon shoots craps), I like seeing the 5 year warranty (which would keep me from buying used) and from what I have read, good customer service. Maybe when I win the lottery I will get all uber high end stuff and have a separate room for two channel and a different one for HT, but until that time I will get the "best" at a level that I can afford. Not trying to be defensive or take one side over another. I am just telling it like it is for me.
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    You can always improve the sound by dumping money in your system. I don't know of a case where a more expensive component will make your system sound worse. The problem with the advice that is spewed on this forum is that the improvements are grossly exaggerated. Sometimes there is no improvement at all or it is not detectable by human ear. The most frequent overestimation is how little power is needed for normal listening levels. 10W of power is plenty if you are going to work in the room and intend to listen to pandora for 1 hour straight. If huge power was a must tube amps would be worthless. And yet F1nut loves to be defend mutually exclusive arguments.
    Geoff, buy a cheap power meter and let me know how much power your 1 kilowat emos draw at a level that is appropriate for the ears of your 3 daughters. I will bet you a dollar that your AVR is more than potent for that.
    Most of the lovers of power should get familiar with the concept of log. The difference between 50W amp and 500W amp is only 10db. How often to u listen to music with the knob all the way up?
    Power does matter in the right circumstances but most of the consumers would not jump the big dollars if they were aware of what the real difference will be.
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    Speaker impedance varies over the frequency range of the source material. Better amplifiers provide a better dynamic current source to those complex speaker loads. This is why a typical Emotiva amp "sounds" better than a typical AVR amp and why a typical McIntosh amp "sounds" better than a typical Emotiva amp. The make and type of amp you use does matter and all "watts" are not the same when it comes to amp ratings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ravaneli View Post
    The problem with the advice that is spewed on this forum is that the improvements are grossly exaggerated. 10W of power is plenty if you are going to work in the room and intend to listen to pandora for 1 hour straight.
    Absolutely TRUE... ...if all you need is low level acoustic wallpaper and your speakers are a near-resistive load. But music and movie soundtracks are dynamic. More complex XOs are anything but resistive. Further, 'A7s* and especially the 'A9s (w/their 3 & 5 dynamic drivers respectively) generate some serious back EMF that's a "kick in the crotch" to any amp. AVRs have a tougher time compared to most separates.
    * the A7 impedence below 125 Hz drops to 4 ohms
    Quote Originally Posted by ravaneli View Post
    Power does matter in the right circumstances but most of the consumers would not jump the big dollars if they were aware of what the real difference will be.
    Absolutely TRUE... ...if you ONLY "look at the numbers. My challange to you: find an AVR w/ peak current, damping factor, and/or slew specs.

    That said, Xcapri's response bears repeating...
    Quote Originally Posted by xcapri79 View Post
    Speaker impedance varies over the frequency range of the source material. Better amplifiers provide a better dynamic current source to those complex speaker loads. This is why a typical Emotiva amp "sounds" better than a typical AVR amp and why a typical McIntosh amp "sounds" better than a typical Emotiva amp. The make and type of amp you use does matter and all "watts" are not the same when it comes to amp ratings.
    Many years ago I had a 2-CH quad amped system good for 400-450 per channel. XO'd so about 3/4 of the power was below 200 hz. At any volume level the SQ was as sweet as it was effortless w/any program material.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZLTFUL View Post
    Took me a couple of times reading it but that qoute does sort of say "I gave bad advice" doesn't it? LOL.
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    Took me more than one try, too! It doesn't just "sort of say 'I gave bad advice'," It most certainly says just that!

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    To those thinking/looking/shopping:
    because the "front" has higher power demands, many who've travelled this road before you are more than satisfied w/a 2/3 channel separate for their LR/LCR, using the AVR for the other channels. I'm not arguing against a 5 or 7 channel separate itself. You may find taking "$maller step$" ea$ier on your wallet, not to mention, more channels, bigger chassis.

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    This is just my personal experience, take it with a bag of salt.

    I recently got a full on AVR in my rig, but I also have a dedicated amp and been playing, have my big towers hooked up to the amp, hooked my A3 bookies up to the rear speaker terminals on the AVR and kinda kludged a center speaker together using a pair of Tannoy Mercury V 1 bookies in parallel on the AVR, now the left and right mains do require quite a bit of jam and they get it via the dedicated amp, the AVR really had no issues powering the rest of the 5.1 setup, it actually surprised me. So like gp4 said, you don't need to go all in right off the bat, I haven't but what I do have, seems to work quite well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiptouz View Post
    Thank you both for your advice. I think I will take the plunge the next sale that comes up. I might start with an xpa-3 and then pick up an xpa-5 later if I think the rear and rear surround need the extra oomph.
    Well, I'll add my vote to an Emo amp. I had a Denon 2808 and later an Onkyo 818 with A7's. I went with an XPA-5 and was very happy. The Onkyo is now a processor and Zone 2 amp. I'm not smart enough to comprehend most of the ohms, sensitivity, etc. talk. I think it sounds better and was worth the money. And, if someone disagrees with me, that's OK. Placebo effect? I don't think so. Everyone comes to these boards seeking opinions. No one is going to change anyone's mind. Those that agree an amp will help greatly outnumber those that don't.

    I thought about an XPA 3, but decided it would prevent a future upgrade itch. Very happy I did. Consider that if you don't like the amp, you can send it back and will only be out return shipping. Also, you may consider going through Amazon. I did this and got a year of free financing by using the Amazon store card. The amp is still shipped by Emo just as it would if you placed the order directly with Emo.

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