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    Default Need help with speakers and speaker wire.

    I am setting up a new system in my basement. New TV, receiver, and 7.1 surround sound with Polk speakers. I am planning on using Polk in-wall/ceiling speakers for the rear and mid-rear speakers. I found a deal on Amazon for this Monster Cable CI Pro 14-2/500 14-Gauge 2-Conductor In-Wall Speaker Cable - 500-Foot Spool. Is this a good speaker wire for setting up the system? Also, can I put the speakers that are meant for in-wall in the ceiling? They seem like they would have a bit better sound that the in-ceiling ones.

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    I could be wrong, but my first thought was couldn't speakers designed for the ceiling possibly have dispersion that is different than speakers designed for side walls? Others more knowledgeable than myself may know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theshawn View Post
    I could be wrong, but my first thought was couldn't speakers designed for the ceiling possibly have dispersion that is different than speakers designed for side walls?
    Correct.

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    Via Crutchfield:

    In-wall and in-ceiling speakers have become some of our best-selling models, and it's easy to see why. They finally sound good enough to satisfy those who care about audio quality, and are also a great solution for folks who don't want to give up their floor or shelf space to traditional speakers. Below, we'll take a look at the things you should consider when buying in-wall or in-ceiling speakers. [Shop for in-wall speakers.] [Shop for in-ceiling speakers.]

    How they work: the basics
    An in-wall speaker works like a regular speaker. But instead of being attached to a cabinet, it's mounted in a frame and set into your wall. It uses the wall cavity as a large cabinet, giving you more bass than you might get from a stand-alone speaker of the same size.

    An in-ceiling speaker works essentially the same way, except that — you guessed it — it's installed in your ceiling. For the most part, in-wall speakers tend to be rectangular, and in-ceiling speakers tend to be round — but there's no reason you couldn't install a rectangular in-wall speaker in your ceiling, for example, if that's what you preferred. Almost all in-wall and in-ceiling speakers have paintable grilles, so you can camouflage them in your walls or ceiling.


    In-wall and in-ceiling speakers use your wall and ceiling cavities as large speaker cabinets.
    Using in-wall and in-ceiling speakers
    Two of the most important things to think about when shopping for in-wall or in-ceiling speakers are how you're going to use them and where you'd like to install them. For example, you'd probably buy a different type and number of speakers for surround sound in your home theater than you would for background music in the kitchen. Before you start looking at specific speaker models and features, you'll need to decide how and where you'll use them. You can find detailed recommendations for a number of different rooms and setups in our in-wall and in-ceiling speaker placement article.

    Deciding between different speakers
    Wherever you're installing your in-wall or in-ceiling speakers, there are a few key factors to consider while you shop:

    Frequency response (Hz) — The range of human hearing is about 20-20,000 Hz. Frequency response tells you what portion of that range a speaker can reproduce. For example, a speaker with a frequency response of 50-20,000 Hz handles a larger portion of that range than a speaker with a frequency response of 65-20,000 Hz. You'd generally hear deeper bass and more balanced sound from the 50 Hz speaker.
    Power handling (watts) — A speaker's recommended power specification usually tells you the maximum amplifier power the speaker can handle; often, its minimum power handling is included as well. This information tells you how much power your amp or receiver should have to safely drive your speakers. For example, a 100-watt RMS receiver would be a good match for a speaker with recommended power of 20-100 watts.
    Sensitivity (dB) — A speaker's sensitivity, or efficiency, rating indicates how effectively it uses the power it receives from your amplifier. Speakers with higher sensitivity ratings can be played louder without straining your amp. In fact, a model with a sensitivity rating that's 3 dB higher than another speaker's only needs half as much power to deliver sound at the same volume.
    Here are some other features to consider, depending on where you're installing your speakers, and how you're going to listen to them:

    Swiveling tweeters — Some in-wall and in-ceiling speakers come with swiveling tweeters, so you can angle the sound toward a preferred listening spot. For example, in a home theater setup, you might angle the tweeters in your surround speakers to get more realistic sound effects.
    Bass and treble tone controls — It's impossible to know exactly how in-wall or in-ceiling speakers will sound in your home until you install them. Bass and treble controls let you tweak the sound for your space, even after your speakers are in.
    Moisture-resistance — If you're installing speakers in a potentially humid area, like a bathroom or kitchen, look for moisture-resistant models. They'll stand up to humidity better than other speakers.

    Stereo input speakers — perfect for small or awkward spaces
    A single stereo input speaker plays both the left and right channels of stereo music through one woofer and two angled tweeters. They're a great way to add background music to small or awkward spaces, where having two speakers isn't practical. For example, you might install one in a walk-in closet, two in a large bathroom, or three down a long hallway.


    A single stereo-input speaker plays both the left and right channels of stereo music through one woofer and two angled tweeters.
    What about a subwoofer?
    If you're using in-wall or in-ceiling speakers for dedicated music listening or for home theater, a powered subwoofer is a must. It fills out the low frequencies, giving you warmer, more realistic sound. Many subwoofers are small enough to tuck behind a couch or table. We also offer subs that install in your wall, floor or ceiling for an elegant, space-saving solution. [Shop for in-wall subwoofers.]

    Keep your home and family safe with in-wall rated speaker wire
    When you're installing in-wall or in-ceiling speakers, it's important that you use speaker cable that's approved for in-wall runs. Be sure to check your local building and fire code and buy wire accordingly. If you're going to run cable inside your walls, you'll need UL-rated speaker wire labeled CL2 or CL3.

    The Underwriters Laboratory (UL) looks at heat generated from current flowing through wire, how quickly the cable will catch and spread fire when exposed to flame, and the wire's susceptibility to damage from external stresses.

    Before you buy: about installation
    To get a good idea of what's involved in installing in-wall or in-ceiling speakers, check out our free, step-by-step installation guides for in-wall wire and in-wall, in-ceiling, and on-wall speakers. If you're planning on installing your wire and speakers yourself, make sure you're comfortable with all the tasks described.

    If you'd prefer not to install your own in-wall or in-ceiling speakers, we can set you up with a certified professional installer in your area. For more information, call our A/V Design Group at 1-800-555-9407.

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    Thank you for all the great information!

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