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    Default Amplifier.

    Yes, I read your earlier posting and know that the LSi series being a 4-ohms being one of the factors in your case.
    How were you going to use a dual LSi7 or LSi9 as the center speaker? Would you have used a splitter from the Center Output from the Receiver? I am just curious; not that it would matter to either of us at this point.

    My Amplifier is my faithful Outlaw Model 7700 7-Ch. 300 wpc simultaneously driven with a THD of 0.03%; I thought of getting an Emotiva instead at the time of purchase, also 3 years ago, but the Emotiva amplifier models that I wanted at the time was out of stock. I am glad that I had gotten the Outlaw instead because of that circumstance, because the reason that I wanted Emotiva at the time, instead of Outlaw, after comparing the two companies amplifier specifications, I thought that Emotiva had a better, or higher wpc; but I only found out later that their Rated Power Bandwidths was just at 1kH, and were not the full 20Hz-20kHz as was the case for the Outlaw model; now the Emotiva's website changed the settings to the Full 20Hz-20kHz as well, but their THD is 0.1% vs. Outlaw's lower 0.03%; both with the same rated 300 wpc @4 ohms . Pricewise, you can get the Emotiva at somewhat lower price of $1700 vs. Outlaw's $2150.

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    Yeah a splitter from the center pre-out with one end going to each amp channel.

    Nice amp! Outlaw is one of the brands i'm looking at. Nice that they have B stock for sale there was well.

    Thanks for the info on the amps.. really wet behind the ears when it comes to amps and really don't know whats important spec wise other then watts which I've heard shouldn't be too much of a deciding factor.
    Full 5 channel set of Polk Audio
    Fronts - LSiM 705
    Center - LSiM 706c
    Sides - LSiM 703
    Mits WD-82842 82" DLP 3DTV
    Denon AVR-3313CI Receiver
    Emotiva stealth DC-1
    Emotiva XPA-2/Fronts XPA-3 Center-surrounds
    Oppo 103

    Loving the new Family! :)

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    I am not sure if you would really need an amplifier or notice improvement after getting a separate amplifier to pair with your Denon Receiver, by the way.
    If you ask members, here, most of them will say that you will get better results with a separate amp; but with the LSiM series being the 8 ohms and the fact that your Denon is in fact a nice receiver, I am not sure if you will indeed notice difference playing musics/movies at a decent volumne level in your apartment or even when you move to your own house in the future.
    No movie soundtrack, even if they are 7.1 DTS or Dolby TrueHD, encodes sounds for scenes that require sound effects to be produced from all of your 7 speakers simultaneously at full equal volumn levels for even 5-10 minutes long; instead, there are just bursts of sounds coming from different speakers intermittently, which the high-end receivers with High Current Discrete Amplifier are more than capable of handling.
    It is totally upto individuals, but if you are still considering getting an amp in the future, there is also a $999 Outlaw Model 7125 amp with 125 wpc for 7-Ch.

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    Interesting.. yeah it sounds pretty great right now I tell ya. Just running 5 channel right now with pure LSiM speakers and no sub. Movies I tried so far today was Fast and the Furious.. good to watch since I've watched it plenty of times in the past and I didn't notice much if anything missing from the lower bass. Then I watched Fast and the Furious Tokyo Drift and damn was that nice! Plenty of low bass in the affects and the different soundtracks in the film.. Put a damn big smile on my face!

    Currently feeling that these 705s with there 4 woofers is doing just fine in my room. Though for the decider i'm now running Jurassic Park. This should put an end to the debate for me.

    I'm sure my wife would be thrilled to here your thoughts on my receiver. She knows about me looking for a new Amp and she has no clue and says says, "What? You already just bought a new receiver! You don't need another one!" hehe. Just maybe i'll be fine.. no way of knowing other then to get one and see if i'm missing something.
    Full 5 channel set of Polk Audio
    Fronts - LSiM 705
    Center - LSiM 706c
    Sides - LSiM 703
    Mits WD-82842 82" DLP 3DTV
    Denon AVR-3313CI Receiver
    Emotiva stealth DC-1
    Emotiva XPA-2/Fronts XPA-3 Center-surrounds
    Oppo 103

    Loving the new Family! :)

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    Default Amplifier vs. Subwoofer.

    Telling your wife that you are planning to use your current Receiver as a Pre-Amp and that you are getting an Amplifier, not another Receiver, is......like speaking in French to her, whatever language she did not master yet......
    On second thought, the LSiMs having all the Power-Hungry Mid/Woofers compared to the LSis, especially that 706c and a pair of LSiM 702F/X having giant 6.5" Mid/Woofers, you may hear the difference with more power per channels. The 705s have Subwoofers anyway; so I think you might as well consider getting a less space-occupying amp, rather than a powered subwoofer. I would still consider setting the HPFs for all your speakers, except the Floorstanding 705s, to between 60-80 Hz to save power for the Mid/Woofers, Mid-Ranges, and Tweeters sections, even if you get an amplifier.
    Good luck with your decision and getting an approval from your wife then!

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    You miss the whole point of what an amplifier adds to a system Be. It is not about louder volume, it is about having the speakers operate to their full potential which means clearer dialog, hearing every detail of the music, better seperation of instruments, and better bass. It's about everything sounding nice and clear no matter where the volume knob is.

    This is the point of having a powerful amp power your speakers.

    And the whole point of having a subwoofer is so that it can handle all the really deep bass rather then the speakers struggling to do it all thereby not acheiving anything to it's full potential and everything sounding kind of muddled. With a sub handling the deep bass, the drivers in the speakers can focus on what they were really designed for which is mid range.
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    Welp after watching Jurassic Park i'd say the low bass is just fine with those 705s.

    If its good now I can imagine it would be great once I get a nice 200+ WATT per channel amp.

    THe other thing with the sub is that I've always had it in the right corner next to the window and I know its not the best location but theres really no other spot but one and that's to the left of the front speakers near the other window.. so basicly between the 705 and the fire place. That's where I put it about a month ago and it sounded best there as it was not as boomy as the other corner.

    I could just toss it back in the left corner next to the couch 2 feet from the wall and a foot from the other wall and see how that sounds but I don't feel i'm missing much since i'm sure the quality of bass is much better sounding from the towers over that 10 year old PSW 404b.. it does get low enough for the room and goes up to I believe 350 watts dynamic power.

    I figure I could run my music and movies louder without bugging the **** out of the neighbors below without the really low bass cause I know the bass travels through the floor no prob as I can hear his when my house is quiet.
    Full 5 channel set of Polk Audio
    Fronts - LSiM 705
    Center - LSiM 706c
    Sides - LSiM 703
    Mits WD-82842 82" DLP 3DTV
    Denon AVR-3313CI Receiver
    Emotiva stealth DC-1
    Emotiva XPA-2/Fronts XPA-3 Center-surrounds
    Oppo 103

    Loving the new Family! :)

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    Nice pictures of the setup.
    I guess I would liked to convert the LSiM 703 for the Rear Surround Speakers and buy the LSiM 702F/X for the Side Surround Speakers, if I were to upgrade given your setup for the future; maybe even change the front from the LSi 705s to the LSiM 707s in the future to match the woofer size of 6.5" to the LSiM 706C, 703s, and even 702F/Xs.
    It is my dream to have all LSiM series Home Theatre System setup!

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