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    They look nice suspended from the carpeted ceiling. how hard was it to hang all your gar like that?

    Seriously Zingo... nice looking system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Face View Post
    Wiring them in phase will cut down on cabinet resonances and distortion.

    Crossed low enough, I don't see there being an issue at all.
    But it will also reduce output, correct? I don't know much about designing speakers, but without them out of phase with each other, they are pulling on the same limited air space and restricting movement. Not only that, but wouldn't they be cancelling each other out since, at least direction wise, they move in opposite directions for the same note? It seems like wiring one out of phase would actually put them into phase with one another?

    It seems that would be the case, but again, no clue here how it actually works.
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    After opening them up, crossovers are decent with Jantzen and Dayton parts, and separate boads for the woofers, and the mid/tweeter. All connections are soldered, including drivers with large gauge speaker cables, but the crossover layout needs a little cleaning up which he admitted. Cabinets are very well made with stained hardwood side panels, and the woofer and mid chambers are packed tight with acoustic stuffing.

    I've started some reading on loading that back woofer push-push vs push-pull compared to the front one, but having come to a conclusion yet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zingo View Post
    After opening them up, crossovers are decent with Jantzen and Dayton parts, and separate boads for the woofers, and the mid/tweeter. All connections are soldered, including drivers with large gauge speaker cables, but the crossover layout needs a little cleaning up which he admitted. Cabinets are very well made with stained hardwood side panels, and the woofer and mid chambers are packed tight with acoustic stuffing.

    I've started some reading on loading that back woofer push-push vs push-pull compared to the front one, but having come to a conclusion yet...
    If they aren't very difficult to open and work in, just try both!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSkip View Post
    But it will also reduce output, correct?
    No they are operating bipolar(push-push) so with the woofers in phase the outputs will combine,out of phase there would be complete cancellation in the bass range.


    oops beat to punch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nooshinjohn View Post
    They look nice suspended from the carpeted ceiling. how hard was it to hang all your gar like that?
    I don't know what's the deal with me posting upside down pictures today!

    But thanks. :)

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    Did you use an ipad to take the picture?
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    iPhone which is my normal MO, but I must have screwed something up. Oh well, it's nice to know I'm not perfect...

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    With the H/K amplifing, the speakers are detailed, but a little laid back and very forgiving. That aluminum tweeter is pretty amazing, and the aluminum woofers sound surprizingly soft.

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    Driver material is much less important that what most make it out to be. The only time it makes a big difference is when the drivers are of cheap or mediocre quality, or the crossover design is poor.
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    Wow, those are really nice looking speakers! Congrats!
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    My wife says they are the ugliest speakers I've ever brought home, but also comments that at least they aren't tall...

    I'm very interested to get an actual power amp on them, and a dedicated 2-channel preamp as I know they have a lot more potential then they are letting on with the receiver. I'm hoping to have an amp nailed down by the end of the week, but that's assuming I find something I really want, and sell a few things in the mean time.

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    I like the slope of the cabinets. That's one of the main thing's I love about my Usher's. I think if it had a piano gloss finish to it, it'd take their appearance up a notch or two.
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    This is my first pair of time-aligned cabinets, but it does lend to the sound more than I was expecting. The sound is very balanced and better blended than other cone speakers I've owned; which may be the drivers as well. I've owned cone speakers that did specific things better (bass), but none that sounded this natural.

    I agree, but the finish is very durable, which I don't mind, and isn't worth changing right now. The hard wood accents are a nice touch though.

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    Glad to hear, enjoy!
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    Nice lookin speaks!You seem to go through gear like an NBA player through groupies.

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    Ya, it's all part of the fun sometimes. It was a neat pair of speakers that were hard to pass up, and a very different sound then I am used to.

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    I hear ya.It definately part of the fun trying different gear and mod's etc.

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    I'm going to try to pair these with a subwoofer and see what they sound like. They aren't as full below 40Hz as I'm used to, but a big subwoofer might be too over powering, and not blend with the naturalnes. I'll plug something in this week as see what it does...

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    I find it easier to blend a sub with a sealed speaker than a ported one. You have an SPL meter, right? Make sure the sub isn't sitting in a null spot in the room then get to work on phase, level, and crossover point.
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    I completely agree; I much prefer sealed speakers likes these ones as the bass is quicker, tighter, and blends easier. Horn loaded is nice too...

    A fair amount of adjusting, tuning, and moving will probably have to happen (SPL meter included), but I'll see if I can successfully blend a 10" woofer into the mix.

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    I pulled out this little Boston Acoustics ASW250 to see how it might sound. It's nothing too special, but a cut about any of the discount brands; weighs in at 35lbs so decently built. It's downfiring which is why I haven't been using it, but uses a 10" ceramic/glass fiber woofer for a realistic bottom end of 30Hz. Sound quality is fairly good on it, but it looks even better with piano gloss sides and a leather type finish on the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSkip View Post
    I like the slope of the cabinets. That's one of the main thing's I love about my Usher's. I think if it had a piano gloss finish to it, it'd take their appearance up a notch or two.
    The slope serves a time alignment function of the drivers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Habanero Monk View Post
    The slope serves a time alignment function of the drivers.
    LOL Captain Obvious much?
    Pretty sure dskip is aware of this as he has talked about time aligned speakers elsewhere and zingo mentioned it in the following post as well.

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    That's a nice well rounded sub there. pretty evenly split between HT and musicality. Personal preference would be a higher end 8 inch sub though. I love what my Micropro brings to the table in terns of speed and accuracy. Maybe doesn't go as low as a bigger sub but then I am trying to reproduce music not a shuttle launch. Hehe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZLTFUL View Post
    LOL Captain Obvious much?
    Pretty sure dskip is aware of this as he has talked about time aligned speakers elsewhere and zingo mentioned it in the following post as well.

    Zingo,
    That's a nice well rounded sub there. pretty evenly split between HT and musicality. Personal preference would be a higher end 8 inch sub though. I love what my Micropro brings to the table in terns of speed and accuracy. Maybe doesn't go as low as a bigger sub but then I am trying to reproduce music not a shuttle launch. Hehe.
    Just putting the reason out there. Not everyone knows why they might be sloped. Just filling in some context for those that may be un-awares. Is that ok?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Habanero Monk View Post
    Just putting the reason out there. Not everyone knows why they might be sloped. Just filling in some context for those that may be un-awares. Is that ok?
    I did touch on the time align concept in the following post, but politely restating or explaining something usually shouldn't ruffle and feathers. I believe ZLTFUL was a little touched off by your comment because it didn't have any context, and the thread did evolve a little into speaker design tech-talk.

    Quote Originally Posted by zingo View Post
    This is my first pair of time-aligned cabinets, but it does lend to the sound more than I was expecting. The sound is very balanced and better blended than other cone speakers I've owned; which may be the drivers as well. I've owned cone speakers that did specific things better (bass), but none that sounded this natural.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zingo View Post
    I did touch on the time align concept in the following post, but politely restating or explaining something usually shouldn't ruffle and feathers. I believe ZLTFUL was a little touched off by your comment because it didn't have any context, and the thread did evolve a little into speaker design tech-talk.
    That wasn't the point of his post. He has an agenda. Let him do what he wants, he will get no food from me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zingo View Post
    I did touch on the time align concept in the following post, but politely restating or explaining something usually shouldn't ruffle and feathers. I believe ZLTFUL was a little touched off by your comment because it didn't have any context, and the thread did evolve a little into speaker design tech-talk.
    Thx. I didn't know it was going to ruffle feathers. A diy speaker may be me next step beyond the LSi's that I have. That or a killer price on a higher end (used potentially) commercial design.
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