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    That looks like an Emo binding post that has not been PFB certified....
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    Is that the broken binding post from your old emo amp PFB?

    Do I win a prize for guessing correctly?

    Edit: F U John... I wanted the glory!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loud & Clear View Post
    Just read the review again. Wow. Simply stunning. It really is amazing how they've single-handedly demystified home audio amplification. The veil has been lifted. The emperor has no clothes and we're finally free to acknowledge it. Down goes Carver - soon we'll all be able to buy his products directly from Emotiva, at a tenth of their previous prices. It's so exciting to think about which one is next. Krell? Bryston? Classe? This is one of the most exciting times in audio history, and we owe it all to Emotiva and Big Dan.
    No, I was right the first time. Loud & Clear is trying to get us riled up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loud & Clear View Post
    Imagine if 5 or 6 of the same people squatted on every Dared thread, or every NAD thread, and chirped on incessantly about how inferior those products were to others. It's just bizarre. They're so threatened by the idea that some people like less expensive equipment as much or more than their big ticket items. Like we're going to go to their homes and replace their amps with Emotiva amps. Frankly it's odd that they even read these threads. They don't own Emotiva and don't want to own Emotiva. Why are they even here? There isn't an audio product in the world that would drive me to attack it, repeatedly, on a messageboard. In fact the more I think about it the more genuinely odd I find it.
    There are a number of people on the forum that own Carver equipment. I cannot speak for them that that is why they are interested, but it's logical.
    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:

    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drenis View Post
    Is that the broken binding post from your old emo amp PFB?

    Do I win a prize for guessing correctly?

    Edit: F U John... I wanted the glory!
    Sometimes I take it to the mall and people come gather round taking turns of trying to pry it free from the MIT banana plug. One day we will find out who is the audio king is but until then I wait with baited breath

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loud & Clear View Post
    There isn't an audio product in the world that would drive me to attack it, repeatedly, on a messageboard. In fact the more I think about it the more genuinely odd I find it.
    If you read the negative replies more carefully, you will find that we are not attacking a product or brand. What happens is that the Emoette cannot possibly understand that someone could possibly like something else and god forbid that something else is perceived to be better. This thread did not start off even discussing Emo. Rather it was saying that AH was not a source worthy of reading for reviews. The Emoette feels compelled to attack if anything even peripherally associated to Emo is dismissed.

    I have nothing against the product, or those that like them, but I will never own one because I don't like the blind, zombie-like devotion to a brand that the Emoette exhibits.
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    Still no one is challanging the Audioholics very positive review of the new Polk LSiM 703's???? I for one am not the least bit interested in getting my ears on them after such s bogus review from those dim wits over there. I wonder if the new Emo amp would make them sound any better? Just food for thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nooshinjohn View Post
    If you read the negative replies more carefully, you will find that we are not attacking a product or brand. What happens is that the Emoette cannot possibly understand that someone could possibly like something else and god forbid that something else is perceived to be better. This thread did not start off even discussing Emo. Rather it was saying that AH was not a source worthy of reading for reviews. The Emoette feels compelled to attack if anything even peripherally associated to Emo is dismissed.

    I have nothing against the product, or those that like them, but I will never own one because I don't like the blind, zombie-like devotion to a brand that the Emoette exhibits.
    We all grew up with "Cornbread and Chicken".
    If your tastes have evolved that is a personal issue.

    I still like the combination myself.
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    Opps spelling mistake, Cheezy might buy that cable if the price is right, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by pearsall001 View Post
    Still no one is challanging the Audioholics very positive review of the new Polk LSiM 703's???? I for one am not the least bit interested in getting my ears on them after such s bogus review from those dim wits over there. I wonder if the new Emo amp would make them sound any better? Just food for thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhayman View Post
    to quote H9
    "Soild, well priced gear for entry level audio enthusiasts to START with "after they finally realize an AVR receiver is no longer the holy grail it once was.

    Just like your Dared some would say, lol
    The difference is I don't go around saying they changed the game or if u pay more you're a sucker or it's better than anything else for a lot less $$$$

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    Quote Originally Posted by pearsall001 View Post
    Still no one is challanging the Audioholics very positive review of the new Polk LSiM 703's???? I for one am not the least bit interested in getting my ears on them after such s bogus review from those dim wits over there. I wonder if the new Emo amp would make them sound any better? Just food for thought.
    I already said I have zero regard for any audioholics or avs reviews.

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    Mines still bigger...

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    Quote Originally Posted by heiney9 View Post
    The difference is I don't go around saying they changed the game or if u pay more you're a sucker or it's better than anything else for a lot less $$$$
    Love ya Brock.
    New beginnings and all, but you just DARED me to explain?

    Gloat it AGAIN, different folks, different product........
    If I had a dollar for everytime I DARED you to explain.............

    Should I do a search?
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    should i do a search?
    Dared me!
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    Hummm where in this thread did I say , you're a sucker if you pay more or it's better than anything else for a lot less.
    Yes I did say they are a game changer and I stick by that, as any company that buys another company in the same business of course is changing the game..
    Just wait till they buy up Dared..what will you do..

    Quote Originally Posted by heiney9 View Post
    The difference is I don't go around saying they changed the game or if u pay more you're a sucker or it's better than anything else for a lot less $$$$
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    Quote Originally Posted by heiney9 View Post
    I already said I have zero regard for any audioholics or avs reviews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhayman View Post
    Yes I did say they are a game changer and I stick by that, as any company that buys another company in the same business of course is changing the game..
    Just wait till they buy up Dared..what will you do..
    If you truly knew 1/100th of what you think you do, then what you post might have some relevance on that "game changer" remark. The '64 Pontiac GTO was a game changer, as was the 64 1/2 Mustang, and the 426 Hemi...

    Dan buying a little internet tube amp company is not going to change a thing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nooshinjohn View Post
    If you truly knew 1/100th of what you think you do, then what you post might have some relevance on that "game changer" remark. The '64 Pontiac GTO was a game changer, as was the 64 1/2 Mustang, and the 426 Hemi...

    Dan buying a little internet tube amp company is not going to change a thing...
    That and the sound from an Emo amp is not a star that outshines every other star in the sky and completely outdoes anything in their price range and certainly not in a higher price range with higher quality parts and design (i.e. BAT, Pass, Musical Fidelity, etc.). The facts are the facts. Better quality parts and design sound better. That's it.
    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:

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    Quote Originally Posted by F1nut View Post
    Correct and lab specs cannot tell you how a piece of gear sounds.
    Right! For that, you need some good ol' double-blinded randomized trials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFox View Post
    It would seem to me that a review which starts with Although it lacks the snob appeal of some of the expensive and prestigious brands is either pushing an agenda, or trying to rationalize some unstated shortcomings. What is expensive in this case? $2000? $20,000?
    No worries, BF, I'm sure they're just referring to those types of folks that buy those $1K-$3K power cables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heiney9 View Post
    Measurements mean nothing, NOTHING.
    I disagree. Take Parasound, for example, a brand that seems (to me) to be nearly universally liked and/or respected here. You can go to their website and read page after page of the spec's of all their amps, current and discontinued. It most certainly gives you some valuable information in trying to find an amp that might fit your needs and your budget. If these measurements meant NOTHING, then why even list them?

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    Wow you really think you know it all, if you did then you would know that one of the MANY definitions of Game Changer is "conceives an entirely new plan by exploring new locations and different products.. ie Carver Tubes
    Game Changer is not just what YOU think it means..
    Quote Originally Posted by nooshinjohn View Post
    If you truly knew 1/100th of what you think you do, then what you post might have some relevance on that "game changer" remark. The '64 Pontiac GTO was a game changer, as was the 64 1/2 Mustang, and the 426 Hemi...

    Dan buying a little internet tube amp company is not going to change a thing...
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    Who said it does, I don't recall saying that in this thread anywhere..
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    Quote Originally Posted by headrott View Post
    That and the sound from an Emo amp is not a star that outshines every other star in the sky and completely outdoes anything in their price range and certainly not in a higher price range with higher quality parts and design (i.e. BAT, Pass, Musical Fidelity, etc.). The facts are the facts. Better quality parts and design sound better. That's it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nooshinjohn View Post
    If you truly knew 1/100th of what you think you do, then what you post might have some relevance on that "game changer" remark. The '64 Pontiac GTO was a game changer, as was the 64 1/2 Mustang, and the 426 Hemi...

    Dan buying a little internet tube amp company is not going to change a thing...
    If Emotiva can bring out their XMC-1 w/o any major firmware issues I think that is going to be a game changer. TRINNOV room correction will be a first in a non-pro installer scenario, balanced (xlr) outputs. They mostly figured everything out with their previous HT Pre-Pros (to the chagrin of some customers no doubt).

    At $1500 that is a game changer.

    As far as a marketing move, which is what I believe it to be, it's pretty savvy to have brought Carver on board. I also believe with the Carver is an Emotiva thread I saw referenced elsewhere they have had past dealings (?) So maybe Dan and Bob have always had a good relationship.
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    It would be great if someone could put together a straight up amp shootout with Emotiva and the other brands of amps we enjoy. Just to see and hear once and for all if the Emotivas can compare. Did anyone get blown away by the Emotiva amps at this year's CES or more recently at the Lone Star Audio Fest last weekend?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuntasensei View Post
    See, people say that... but pretty much every thread I've seen get shut down over this didn't have ANY of that attitude from the people who are happy with their Emotiva gear. The attacks seem to come in advance, as if the anti-Emo people just expect that to be the inevitable result, so we can never have a civil thread where this one particular brand is concerned. I really don't see people evangelize Emotiva here much. I do, however, see people have to endure the same nonsense from people who don't seem happy unless they're keeping Emotiva owners in check somehow.

    I've said it before... The anti-Emotiva attitude here is what steered me away from them and toward used amps. That didn't work out well for me, and when I ultimately caved and bought an Emo XPA-3, I was happier with the sound it gave me than I was with the Parasound or Adcom I had before. That's not me putting Emotiva on a pedestal or downing those other brands... Just giving my personal experience with my particular gear. I think most Emotiva owners here tend to have a pretty realistic attitude about their gear. And by that, I mean they don't particularly need the same group of people downing them every time they discuss it here.

    Seriously... We get it already. Move along. Nothing to see here.
    Quote Originally Posted by Polkie2009 View Post
    It would be great if someone could put together a straight up amp shootout with Emotiva and the other brands of amps we enjoy. Just to see and hear once and for all if the Emotivas can compare.
    Good luck with that. What I can't figure out is the entire fiction that somehow this thread and others are filled with over zealous emotiva devotees spouting about giant killers and you don't need to spend anymore $$.

    When challenged to provide proof..... nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polkie2009 View Post
    It would be great if someone could put together a straight up amp shootout with Emotiva and the other brands of amps we enjoy. Just to see and hear once and for all if the Emotivas can compare. Did anyone get blown away by the Emotiva amps at this year's CES or more recently at the Lone Star Audio Fest last weekend?
    I had an XPA-2 and put it up against my other amps, and the XPA-2 was sold and out of my house within two weeks. I have also been to the RMAF here in Colorado the last three years and the Emotiva rooms did not impress me..

    With that said, I have a XPA-3 in my HT rig and it works just fine for when I want to watch movies. Also I went to Alan's house and he has a XPA-2 running his rig, and It sounded very good, It just did not work for me in my rig..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Habanero Monk View Post
    If Emotiva can bring out their XMC-1 w/o any major firmware issues I think that is going to be a game changer. TRINNOV room correction will be a first in a non-pro installer scenario, balanced (xlr) outputs. They mostly figured everything out with their previous HT Pre-Pros (to the chagrin of some customers no doubt).

    At $1500 that is a game changer.

    .
    Um nope.

    http://www.hometheater.com/receivers...2_av_receiver/

    That was 1800 new then and now going on 3 years. So no, once again, they are not doing something that someone else hasn't already done.

    Also just because it has XLR doesn't mean it's a true balanced design. With all their issues with their previous models I doubt this one would be bug free. They seem to like to use their buyer's as their beta testers.
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    In reply to Toolfan66
    Exactly the synergy was wrong for your gear..not your flavour..
    That is why there are so many choices to pick from..
    Maybe with a different pr of speakers and pre it might have been your flavour, or not..
    That is the beauty of this hobby is trying new things to try to achieve the synergy you are looking for..

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