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    Default Star Trek - Into Darkness

    I have been a Star Trek fan since the first episode aired and really enjoyed the reboot in the last Star Trek movie. This one is even better. They didn't have to spend time introducing the new actors and explaining their new relationships with each other and basically just got down to action.

    However, there are still plenty of in-jokes and references to the earlier series and movies. Very enjoyable and highly recommended to even moderate ST fans.
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    I heard the last 30 min or so was not very good. What is your opinion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poolgod69 View Post
    I heard the last 30 min or so was not very good. What is your opinion?
    I enjoyed it all the way through. But there is a break at that point that I can see where some people wouldn't like the direction. Don't want to spoil anything but when you see it, there is definitely a point where things change a bit.
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    And even worse then the apparent change in direction, you were forced to endure Alice Eve in her underwear changing into her special torpedo disarming outfit..... Yuck....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poolgod69 View Post
    And even worse then the apparent change in direction, you were forced to endure Alice Eve in her underwear changing into her special torpedo disarming outfit..... Yuck....
    True, it was horrible. And didn't last long enough.
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    I thought it was quite good. Part of the ending change was a spin on parts of Star Trek 2 and I actually liked how it went.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nguyendot View Post
    I thought it was quite good. Part of the ending change was a spin on parts of Star Trek 2 and I actually liked how it went.
    I agree, but I can see where some people might not like that part. I thought they did a great job of twisting TWoK around a bit, keeping the essential idea without just doing a remake.
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    I will have to watch this now.

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    I saw this today and I thought it was excellent!

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    I saw it over the weekend and thought it was a very good movie.
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    I'm a big Trek fan and I loved it. Lots of people complain when their beloved movies are "messed with" in any way, but personally, I love new ideas and new content is always great. I thought the end was really cool, and I was really surprised. The trailer really had me fooled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by domflane View Post
    Lots of people complain when their beloved movies are "messed with" in any way
    Let me quote William Shatner from his now-classic Saturday Night Live skit (co-written by Judd Apatow) which took place at a Star Trek convention....

    GET A LIFE, will you people? I mean, for crying out loud, it's just a TV show!
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    The big question is this: In which movie will the Borg make an appearance?
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    It was terrific! They did an outstanding job casting these characters. Definitely getting the dvd when it comes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ROHfan View Post
    The big question is this: In which movie will the Borg make an appearance?
    I think we may see the beginnings of the Borg real soon.... perhaps some form of enhanced federation troop capable of fighting the Klingons in close quarters. I have always had my suspicions that the Borg were some form of experiment gone very wrong.

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    The Star Trek Encyclopedia speculates that there could be a connection between the Borg and V'ger, the vessel encountered in Star Trek: The Motion Picture; this is advanced in William Shatner's novel The Return. The connection was also suggested in a letter in Starlog No. 160 (November 1990). The letter writer, Christopher Haviland, also speculated that the original Borg drones were members of a race called "The Preservers", which Spock had suggested in the original series episode "The Paradise Syndrome" might be responsible for why so many humanoids populate the galaxy. It was confirmed in the The Next Generation episode "The Chase" that an ancient species seeded hundreds, if not thousands of planets with their DNA, creating the Humans, Vulcans, Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians and many more. Coincidentally, in the novelization of Star Trek: The Motion Picture (written by Gene Roddenberry), the Vejur entity notes that the Ilia probe is resisting the programming given to it because of residual memories and feelings for Captain Decker, from its precise replication of the Deltan lieutenant. When Vejur becomes aware of this, it decides that "the resistance was futile, of course".

    The extra section of the game Star Trek: Legacy contains the "Origin of the Borg", which tells the story of V'ger being sucked into a black hole. V'ger was found by a race of living machines which gave it a form suitable to fulfilling its simplistic programming. Unable to determine who its creator could be, the probe declared all carbon-based life an infestation of the creator's universe, leading to assimilation. From this, the Borg were created, as extensions of V'ger's purpose. Drones were made from those assimilated and merged into a collective consciousness. The Borg Queen was created out of the necessity for a single unifying voice. However, with thoughts and desires of her own, she was no longer bound to serve V'ger. This explanation, however, is not canon.

    In the graphic novel Star Trek: The Manga, the Borg resulted from an experiment in medical nanotechnology gone wrong. An alien species under threat of extinction by an incurable disease created a repository satellite containing test subjects infused with body parts, organs, and DNA of multiple species along with cybernetic enhancements put in place by advanced medical technology. The satellite was maintained by nanomachines, which also maintained the medical equipment on board. The medical facility is parked in orbit by a black hole, and along with the anomalous states of time around the black hole, allows long-term research to continue at an accelerated time scale rather than in real time speed. The medical facility deteriorates and so too does the programming of the nanomachines. The nanomachines began infusing themselves into the patients, interpreting them as part of the satellite in need of repair. Among the patients is the daughter of the head medical researcher of the satellite. The satellite eventually falls apart in an encounter with an away team from the Enterprise under the command of James T. Kirk. In the final moments of the satellite's destruction and the escape of the crew members of the Enterprise with the patients, the subjects display qualities inherently resembling the Borg; injection of nanomachines in a fashion like assimilation, rapid adaptation to weaponry, and a hive mind consciousness, as all the subjects begin following the whim of the daughter. As succumbing to the disease was inevitable, and the corrupt nanomachine programming infused itself into the bodies, the final image of the page of the manga Borg origin is left with the daughter turned Borg Queen, stating, "Resistance is futile." This origin story shares many similarities with that of the Replicators from Stargate SG-1.
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    Just got home from seeing this. One word...OUTSTANDING!

    They played this off very well with the whole time line shift created in the first one. For those who did not see Into Darkness, pay special close attention to the conversation between the "person" in the holding cell and Kirk.

    No doubt this will be a release day buy and watch on Blu Ray!

    On a side note, after seeing this, I'm very encouraged with JJ Abrams taking over the reigns for the next Star Wars!
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    This looks like it will be an awesome movie!

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    It was action packed.
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    It was very good.
    Favorite part was the space jump with Kirk & Khan over to the Vengeance.
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    I just saw it. I would give it a one star. Two thumbs down.
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    Why all the hate people? Perfectly good movie imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David R View Post
    I just saw it. I would give it a one star. Two thumbs down.
    I didn't see it but... weren't there... lots and lots of stars? Perhaps some trekking as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kal-El View Post
    Why all the hate people? Perfectly good movie imo.
    I am glad you liked it. Most reviewers did. The scenarios were all repeats from other episodes and movies. The first time I saw Count Yorga the Vampire the ending surprised me when the hero just rescued the heroine but we did not know that she had been converted into a vampire and she chomped onto the hero's neck ending the movie. That would surprise no one now.

    I though the actors were too young to be believable, the dialog was hokey and the logic was absurd.
    Spock speaks to future Spock and asked about Khan. Future Spock tells him he can say anything because it would effect the time line then tells young Spock that he is the most dangerous man he encountered.

    I truly was disappointed
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    Quote Originally Posted by mhardy6647 View Post
    I didn't see it but... weren't there... lots and lots of stars? Perhaps some trekking as well?
    ha ha

    alternate answer - nope just one star - Leonard Nimoy
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    Quote Originally Posted by David R View Post
    ha ha

    alternate answer - nope just one star - Leonard Nimoy
    Excellent riposte.
    Is he (Nimoy) in it? I didn't know that...
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    Yep, just a cameo.
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