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    Is there any downside to having the speaker wire laying next to a power cord?
    If they are well shielded it shouldn't be a problem, but IMO, it's always best to keep them as far apart as possible.

    Is there anything that can cause problems near the wire, an electrical outlet, or other a/v wires. Would that cause any interference, especially for video cables?
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    Quote Originally Posted by F1nut View Post
    Everything matters, to what degree is up to you.
    So true. Make sure your AC outlet is the same color as the outlet cover.

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    I have another question. Forgive me, but I'm a newbe. Up until a couple days ago I thought Monster Cable was the high-end stuff and "timbre-matched" meant that the speakers had a matching wood finish. And thanks again for answering my questions... even though you are ALL speaker wire snobs! Just kidding! I was looking at the banana plugs that came with my system, so I'll use mine as an example. http://sewelldirect.com/Sewell-Deadb...gs-12-Pair.asp

    It seems to me that using a banana plug limits the "contact surface" when making a connection. Wouldn't running bare wire into the binding posts and tightening them down, make for more surface area to making contact with? With what you guys spend on speaker wire, don't you want that connection to have as much surface as possible to be making contact with each other. It looks like the tip of the banana and the swelled out part of the shaft are the only parts that make contact. Or does the entire length of the pin end up making contact inside the binding post?

    Also it was suggested to not bother trying to bi-wire, just replace the stock jumpers with high quality speaker cable. Since none of my speaker wire is considered "high quality", what is recommend for replacing the jumpers? And will I have to buy eight feet of it just to use two 4" pieces? Can you give me names of good manufacturers to look for in the speaker wire world? I'm always looking for used stuff on eBay and craigslist. I just need to know what to look for in the future, because I've always bought Monster. I'll probably be buying DSkip's magic cables. I think he said they have a screw-type end on them, so I don't think I can cut off a few inches from those. I have no idea what his cables look like, so I don't know.

    You guys with the high end equipment, do you ever listen to compressed MP3s on your systems? I was wondering how the sound quality was. Can you hear a big difference between MP3s and CDs on the more expensive Polks and receivers/amps?
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    Sorry I haven't emailed you yet. These are the speaker cables I have. Remember its a trio, not a pair.

    http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...30980731501410

    You asked me what gauge they were. I'm not sure to be honest. I do know I preferred them over the various clear-coat Home-depot type wire (12-16 ga) I had used up until that point. As you can see, cutting into them really isn't an option as you're likely to destroy the integrity of the cable. If you're looking for some jumpers, you could just as well cut small 4-6" strips of the extra wire you have and see what it does for you. There is the possibility of improved sound there, but how much you would notice, especially for movies, is completely in the air. I don't see the need for you to go out and spend money on jumpers to be honest. Realize that many of us here have hundreds of hours listening, not only to our own system, but to a multitude of others as well. I compare things like this to a 92 mph fastball and a 94 mph fastball. If you aren't playing at a high level, the difference likely won't matter: you're still not going to hit it. At a high level, that extra 2 mph might make all the difference in the world though.

    Compression is a 4 letter word in this hobby. Whether it be in the studio or via playback, nobody likes it. I do listen to some compressed music at times because I like the music, but I never listen to MP3 or any other file type that can compromise the quality. I'm about to shoot you an email.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermitism View Post
    You guys with the high end equipment, do you ever listen to compressed MP3s on your systems? I was wondering how the sound quality was. Can you hear a big difference between MP3s and CDs on the more expensive Polks and receivers/amps?
    Well, listening to MP3 files defeats the purpose of having better gear and cables. They will just suck even more on a better system. The whole idea is to hear every bit of musical detail in a song, and by definition MP3 files remove musical detail.

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    It seems to me that using a banana plug limits the "contact surface" when making a connection.
    Nope and IMO, bare wire sucks.
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    I have A9's Is it recommended to join wire the posts or leave the standard connector provided by polk? The current connectors look pretty decent not that i crawl behind my speakers for a looksie all that often. :)
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    It's better to replace the stock brass jumper plates with high quality speaker cable. It will make a difference.
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    Also if I wire the post, which posts is recommended to connect the main wire to, top or bottom? Or is this a none issue?
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    Non-issue.
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    Just call me Mr. Question. What is your opinion of "Audyssey Technology for Enhanced Audio" that comes with some receivers and is used during setup? Is it good technology or snake oil?

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    So I did the join wire from bottom post to top post with some good wire. I know what I think I am hearing as an improvement, but am wondering if it is in my mind or I really hear a difference. I was wired to the bottoms from the AVR.

    What should I expect to hear different?
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    Do you have any well recorded songs you know in and out? If so, listen to it with and without the jumpers in place.
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    Oh that will be fun to try. It will have to wait till my new bananas show up or it will be an hour between tests. lol I am still curious what is expected?

    I was thinking about leaving the brass bridges on as well as jumping the terminals with wire but decided against it due to physics considerations; equal current and all.
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    You might get a wider soundstage, deeper soundstage, stronger/more defined imaging, tonal changes, longer decay of notes, finer details you've never heard or simply never noticed before.....

    There is a plethora of things that can change in the presentation with any change in the system, large or small. I don't use jumpers because I use bi-wire cables.
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    I thought I'd give you an update on my wonderful online purchase of a used Denon receiver on eBay. I never received the item I purchased. On the morning of 7/6/13 the package was delivered to the wrong residence. Seller did not request signature service, so Fedex left package at doorstep. When package never arrived, I contacted Fedex and they went back to retrieve package on 7/10/13 but package was no longer there. They told me the package could no longer be retrieved. They fully admit that they delivered it to the wrong address and that I never had possession of the package. They told me to contact the seller to get refund. I was told that the tracking information linked to the tracking number will no longer be updated and it's last update said it was delivered on 7/6. All info is in the Case ID Number with Fedex.

    I contacted seller after being told by Fedex that the package could not be retrieved, but got no response. So I filed a claim with Paypal under Ebay Buyer Protection. I had used Paypal's Bill Me Later option. The transaction didn't show up in the resolution center because I used Bill Me Later, so I had to file the claim over the phone, rather than online. I ended up not winning the case because the tracking numbers said that the package was delivered. I told them that all the info was in the Case ID and to contact Fedex and they would explain. They said it is there policy to ONLY go by what the tracking number says and would not contact Fedex. They said if the tracking number was updated with new info, they would reopen the case. Called Fedex and they said the tracking number info will NEVER be changed. I said, "I thought the whole purpose of a tracking number was to let the shipper/seller know that the item arrived. It should be changed to show that you lost my package." They said once it says "delivered", it can no longer be changed.

    So I file a claim with Fedex. This was after literally four hours of phone conversations with Paypal and Fedex. And no one seems to know how to speak English with either company! I was told that ONLY the seller/shipper could file a claim. I said that the seller wouldn't return any of my emails and the only way I had to contact him was through eBay's email service. Since I used Bill Me Later, I couldn't check the transaction through Paypal for contact info because it doesn't show up there. And it's not Fedex's policy to give out the sellers contact info to me. Nice.

    Fedex put me through to their claims department and the woman (the first American I spoke with, by the way) told me the only way for me to file a claim was to get the seller to sign a waver allowing me to file a claim. I explained again that he would not return my emails because he thinks the package was delivered to me per the tracking number info. She said there was nothing she could do. I said, "You guys are a real class act!" She replied, "Yes we are, thanks for calling." and hung up on me.

    The day before yesterday, the Fedex driver that delivered my package to the wrong address, showed up to deliver another package. He told me where he dropped the package off. I went there yesterday and retrieved my package. I guess the lawn service moved the package to the side of the garage and it had gone unnoticed. Get home, open up my package (which was undamaged and unopened) and the first thing I notice was that my "lightly used, works perfect unit" had a big ol' REMANUFACTURED sticker on the side of it. Nice. Hook it up, plug it in. My Polk speakers sound amazing, which are connected using DSkip's cables. (thanks!) Listen to it for about 90 minutes and the sound goes out. I turn off the Denon and turn it back on and it works for another 15 minutes and the sound went out. Performed numerous factory resets, but didn't help. It got so bad that I'd have to turn the unit off and on 10 to 30 times to get sound. Had to file another claim. Paypal/eBay sided with me. I had to mail the unit back this morning with tracking numbers and when it arrives, I'll get a full refund. Had to spend $31.35 for return shipping. I DID NOT USE FEDEX! I'm now thinking of buying a Yamaha AVR.

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    wow. sorry to hear about your troubles. It is one of the reasons i am always concerned about buying used equipment. And shippers are always a pain to get resolution with has been my experience. It works both ways though. Lots of folks try to place false claims against the shippers insurance. So shippers are very much defensive about paying out claims. It is not a perfect system by all means.

    I used to shipped 8 million dollars of goods a month. On my worse month I would lose about $3000 in shipping losses. Most of the times everything went pretty smoothly. I only ran into a few issues of fraud, but they were painful to deal with.
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    I'm sorry you're having such a hard time with it all. I hope it all works out in the end.


    I always use UPS or USPS, mostly because they are close/on the way home from work.
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    Into everyone's life some rain must fall, but at least you know when you get everything staightened out you will have a very nice sounding system. Good luck with your next receiver purchase and stick around the forum, there are a lot of very knowledgeable people around here.
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    Yes, I've literally spent hours reading through these forums. Good stuff! And I definitely got drenched with rain.

    FYI, I've been doing research on AVRs and learned that if you buy a brand new Yamaha receiver, but you buy it from a non-authorized Yamaha retailer, it voids the warranty. Luckily, I learned this before buying a new one from an eBay store. I would have saved about $15 on that particular model, but would have had no warranty. I just can't make up my mind if I want to buy one that ONLY has what I currently need or if I should buy a more expensive model with pre amp outs for an external amp, in case one day I decide to connect a separate amp. It's going to be used mostly for a home theater, but still some music playing. Five years from now, if I decide to hook up an amp, I'd probably have an itch to update me AVR anyway. I just don't know. The Yamaha RX-V375 has everything I need right now. I'd have to change out the banana plugs for pins on the center channel speaker cable, because that model only has binding posts for the front two channels. I found someone that has those screw on pins for Belkin PureAV Cables but they aren't cheap. Does anyone make gold plated adapters that would convert a male banana into a male pin. (female banana to male pin adapter) I thought that might be a less expensive way to go.
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    Hermit, I'll do some scouring on your local CL tonight or tomorrow morning and see if there is anything worth considering.
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    Welcome to Club Polk!

    Sorry to hear about your troubles. But if you're thinking about a Yamaha AVR, don't bother with low end Yammies. Get the cheapest Aventage series Yamaha you can find. These are really much better built and have better sound!

    Otherwise, the boys have you covered "above"!

    Oh, MP3s, yeah YOU CAN HEAR A HUGE difference between those and a CD, let alone an SACD! The only system I listen to Mp3 quality on is my portable: laptop, etc., streaming services like Pandora, etc. with a decent set of H-phones. Basically background music while I work!

    Enjoy!

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    Do you have a preference between Denon, Onkyo and Yamaha? What I've heard is that they are all good, but Denon outsources some of their parts/components and Yamaha builds everything in house. I don't know if that affects reliability or not.
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    So why am I not allowed to read the "For Sale Classifieds"?

    "To view this thread or threads in this forum your post count must be 100 or greater."

    I know I just answered my own question, but...
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    Pioneer Elite SC series. 'Nuff said.
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    Oh, I thought of another good question I've been meaning to ask. You all are big fans of bi-amping. Does bi-amping your speakers with a single receiver not give the same affect as doing it with two separate amps? I've read that some receivers can reassign their zone 2 outputs for bi-amping. Is that a gimmick?
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    Where did you get the idea that we are big fans of bi-amping as nothing is further from the truth. For starters, you cannot bi-amp squat with an AVR. True bi-amping, the only kind worth pursuing, requires separate amps and active crossovers.
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    That's what I'm asking, these receivers that say you can reassign zone 2 for bi-amping doesn't have the same affect as hooking up a seperate amp to your system, right?
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    Correct.
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    I just wanted to give a big thanks to DSkip for taking the time to find me a deal on a receiver. It's a 41 pound behemoth. Lets hope it gives me many years of trouble-free life.
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