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    Default Yamaha's new flagship SACD + Integrated

    Yamaha to Unleash Flagship A-S3000 Amp and CD-S3000 CD Player

    Anyone else see this? I like the new retro look that's been going around Yamaha.

    The pricing however, is quite hard to swallow.

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    very nice and yes I agree CRAZY expensive....that 7000.00 player has a LOT of competition in that range it better be up to it.

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    Good lord $8k...

    I know people spend more than that on a single speaker but man, that's a lot of coin.

    Edit: It only puts out 130x2 @ 8 ohm?

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    I don't see these flying off the shelf's anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chumlie View Post
    I don't see these flying off the shelf's anytime soon.
    Agreed. For $8k you would expect SEVERAL hundred watts of power on tap.
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    If I was ever going to drop 8K it'd be on something by BAT, Krell, Bryston, Mcintosh, Pass labs etc, even though i'm sure it's nice that's crazy expensive for Yamaha and it has major competition in that price point.
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    They aren't going after the Emo market. Whether they sell or not is another question. It is good to see companies address the high-end of the market where sound matters, and it costs to get that sound quality. Of course, the question is; How do they sound, especially compared to other vendor's product?

    What I would like to see is the major manufacturers get back into the high-end game, use their purchasing power, and bring high-end gear to market at a lower price point than the niche players. Of course this would put the hurt on the niche players, but that is the market at work.
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    It's good to see a company like Yamaha come out with statement pieces, especially a high end SACD player when you see many carrying on about downloads, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F1nut View Post
    It's good to see a company like Yamaha come out with statement pieces, especially a high end SACD player when you see many carrying on about downloads, etc.
    Agree even if they are a bit much. I wonder how many of the 500wpc digital mono bloc's they sold 6-8yrs ago? I never seen any used show up where I look....They were like 5000.00ea if I remember correctly.

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    It looks nice, but $8k is a bit lofty. Where do you think it should be fairly priced?
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    They look very nice but for those prices they better sound fantastic!
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    How do you guys know it isn't underpriced?

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    Quote Originally Posted by F1nut View Post
    It's good to see a company like Yamaha come out with statement pieces, especially a high end SACD player when you see many carrying on about downloads, etc.
    Exactly so. These are statement pieces, not really any different in principle nor purpose than, e.g., Yamaha's CR-3020 receiver in the late 1970s... or, say, 270 wpc Pioneer's SX-1980, back in the same era when Pioneer's bread and butter receivers were selling for $199.95 at Stereo Discounters.


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    EDIT: PS, this new Yamaha integrated amp does look to be better built than their late-1978's top-end integrated amplifier (CA-2010), FWIW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chumlie View Post
    I don't see these flying off the shelf's anytime soon.
    I'm waiting for the 50% off friends and family sale.
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    [QUOTE=mhardy6647;1954118]Exactly so. These are statement pieces, not really any different in principle nor purpose than, e.g., Yamaha's CR-3020 receiver in the late 1970s... or, say, 270 wpc Pioneer's SX-1980, back in the same era when Pioneer's bread and butter receivers were selling for $199.95 at Stereo Discounters.


    The only statement I hear is "We're still only in it for the money."

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Grand View Post


    The only statement I hear is "We're still only in it for the money."
    Something wrong with being in business to make money George?
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    George... you ol' socialist, you...
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    Its nice but each about 4k-5k too much for me anyway. Only ftc rated 100w@8ohm. CD Player uses the same Dac as the Oppo bdp-95. I feel these units are more about prestige than value.
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    Power output and price sure don't have to be correlated; trust me on this.
    ... and that's OK: There's more to hifi than "RMS watts"
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    I'm surprised they're planning on bringing their statement high end integrated amp and SACD player to the US market. Both Denon and Marantz have mostly dropped out of that higher end market in North America in the last couple years, but still sell their more expensive separate component gear in Europe and Asia.

    Like Yamaha's 2000 series which has been available here for a few years, the new 3000 series integrated and SACD player are designed to work best together with their propriety balanced connection system. The build quality and attention to detail on the new models are way beyond anything I've seen Yamaha produce before. They also appear to have paid a lot of attention to introducing a USB DAC into the SACD player. My guess is they primarily designed this system for sale in Asian markets.

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    Was curious, so I did the "Find Local Dealer", and found 2 B & M stores listed.
    Both are "American TV & Appliance" stores and both have been closed for over a year. Which doesn't make any difference, really, because there wouldn't have been any way on God's green earth that "American" would have had either of these pieces out on display. "American" did have a somewhat decent sound room with some liveable gear actually out on the floor; definitely better than either "SiloX" or "Circuit City", homes of the "pushed-in dust caps". Which, okay, really isn't saying much.

    It would be nice to see the major 'brands" start to put out signature pieces that push the technology limits and raise the bar higher, much higher. If that's what they're capable of doing, though. If their signature pieces are merely, "Look at our CDP ! It has gold-plated sheet metal screws !", then give it up and concentrate on making portable mp3 players with interchangeable skins.
    Yamaha could afford to go into the R & D, Engineering, etc departments with a $20 million check and say, "Okay, listen up you geeks and dweebs ! Come up with some gear that'll cost us $3000 to manufacture per unit but will blow the sliderules right out of your pocket-protected shirts !".
    I wouldn't be able to afford whatever they come up with, to be sure. But some of us can be happy just having a good ol' slobber and drool. And it might get us re-thinking our opinion of Yamaha.

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    This makes me wonder just how well the Onkyo sold as they did the same thing.But at a much lower price point.

    http://us.onkyo.com/Products/model.p...urce=prodClass

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhardy6647 View Post
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    Money?

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    I'll take the Onkyo...something about VUs.
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    Holy cow that Onkyo weighs 52 pounds!

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Grand View Post
    The only statement I hear is "We're still only in it for the money."
    Tell me who isn't George. You come across that audio company who's in it for charity, let me know, I'm there.

    Unless you assume a "statement piece" should be one of no holds barred all out assault on building something just to see how good it can be done with no concern of actually selling a ton of them or making money. Like the Polk SRT's. If that's the case, like the SRT's they all meet the same demise.
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    My MX-1000u is about that weight.
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    I must say, as fantastic as my Yammie AVENTAGE AVR sounds in it's two channel performance you can take it to the bank that their new separates line will be outstanding. Now as far as the price goes we'll have to wait & see how the market respondes. Their new preamp/processor is a great looking piece also. It looks like Yamaha is really stepping up their game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rooftop59 View Post
    Holy cow that Onkyo weighs 52 pounds!
    My Pass Labs amps weigh 150 lbs each. It was a pain getting each one from the garage to the living room when they arrived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFox View Post
    My Pass Labs amps weigh 150 lbs each. It was a pain getting each one from the garage to the living room when they arrived.
    And people wonder what is "manly" about "audio"!

    That's also why U-haul offers you the rental of these, lol:



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