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    Default Emotiva and Bob Carver part ways...

    From the Emotiva website...

    Hey all,

    To clear everything up regarding Emotiva, Bob Carver, and tube amps in
    general, here's an update.

    First, yes, our professional relationship with Bob Carver is at an end. I
    was excited to have had the opportunity to have worked with him.

    Second, we're absolutely committed to making tube amps (and other
    products) under the Emotiva name, and they're coming to our website in
    short order. You'll see them listed under a separate series, like we've
    done with the Pro products.

    Finally, thank you for bearing with us in this transitional time. We
    simply need to work through some details before you see tube amps for
    sale on emotiva.com, and we maintain our greatest respect for Bob Carver
    and his work, as well as our commitment to providing exciting tube amps
    with exceptional value and performance under the Emotiva name.

    All the best,
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    Real bummer !!! I do not know why but for some sort of reason I was hoping to see this go full steam ahead and see what they came up with....Not that I could ever afford an of it, Then again maybe I could have. We'll never know now.

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    Interesting
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    Thank GOD nobody can call my tube amps "Emotiva" ever again... lol
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    Jesse you can breathe now
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    Quote Originally Posted by nooshinjohn View Post
    Thank GOD nobody can call my tube amps "Emotiva" ever again... lol
    Watch that be the only tube product Emotiva puts out...
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    I vvvvant to know more

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    Jesse you can breathe now
    Eh, no sweat off my large attachments.

    What did crack me was all the talk about how Carver was going to improve the Emo amps, which of course was an admission that they need improvement. Too funny.
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    Spoke with Bob... I cannot go into great detail, but I can say that he just does not want to work for or with anyone. Audio is only a hobby for him now, just like the rest of us, and that is the way he likes it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nooshinjohn View Post
    Spoke with Bob... I cannot go into great detail, but I can say that he just does not want to work for or with anyone. Audio is only a hobby for him now, just like the rest of us, and that is the way he likes it.
    I can totally picture you and bob via split screen, chatting on the phone at night time in your pj's

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    Quote Originally Posted by polkfarmboy View Post
    I can totally picture you and bob via split screen, chatting on the phone at night time in your pj's
    You post snide crap like this and then wonder why myself and others have such little respect for you... might I suggest that you find a nice corner to sit in and STFU.
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    Damn John, chill out. Really not sure how you read that into PFB's post.
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    No doubt. I can see it now as we are planning Polkfest....

    [Polkfest member] Hello, John. I hear you are good buddies with Mr. Carver. I can totally picture you and bob via split screen, chatting on the phone at night time in your pj's.

    [John] Go to hell and STFU, you snide little measly excuse for an amoeba. You have earned a new spot on my BOZO list you fool. Be sure to go ask mommy for a lollipop and don't ever post on this forum again!

    Said all in good fun....

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    Can't we all just get along ?
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    Damn John! lol

    Thankfully I didn't say anything about yall sitting around in your PJ's looking for Porcshe's on eBay to buy together ehh?
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    Funniest part of that story is picturing bob using newfangled technology........

    Those that know bob understand
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    Quote Originally Posted by EndersShadow View Post
    Funniest part of that story is picturing bob using newfangled technology........
    I don't EVER see that happening. Hehe

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    I think Carver has always done his own thing...and I think folks were excited to see what would happen with some capital behind him working with an outfit like Emo ...maybe creating something that performs outside its price point.

    ...and IMO, one is dead in the water in terms of business If you are not trying to improve your product. As much as some think EMO is a joke, I think if things had worked out with Carver and they came out with an interesting yet good price to performance tube amp with the Carver signature on it, then... I think it would have been a home run in terms of business. Remember, there were companies that made great sounding expensive products that have gone bye-bye.

    Does it really matter if your product is not the be-all and end-all in detail, power, and resolution if you are making a profit? Bose is one thing but is Emo as bad as Bose? I'm not so sure? I think the Carver move was them trying to get better...can't fault a company for that? IMO, I think they have found and tapped into a market segment...there is no need to even advertise their products as being as good as products 5x the price of theirs.....just my op.
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    Just my two cents,,, age escapes none of us, and Bob has a new bride,and maybe he just wants to enjoy their time together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nooshinjohn View Post
    Spoke with Bob... I cannot go into great detail, but I can say that he just does not want to work for or with anyone. Audio is only a hobby for him now, just like the rest of us, and that is the way he likes it.
    Damn you and all the other "insiders" around here who won't share, preferring to take their balls and go home.








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    It would of been nice to see a new quality audio product that didn't cost $$$$.
    I say that over in the headphone world all the time. We don't need another $1500 flagship.
    We need a $200-300 giant killer. Same thing with amps. EMO is filling a need.
    I was hoping they could get guidance to make that killer must have product that most of us
    could buy without taking out a mortgage. They have got cheap down.
    Cheap and good would be a very good thing. But it wasn't meant to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nooshinjohn View Post
    Spoke with Bob... I cannot go into great detail, but I can say that he just does not want to work for or with anyone. Audio is only a hobby for him now, just like the rest of us, and that is the way he likes it.
    Translation: Pulling up Emo was going to be way more work than he thought.
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    More so, I don't think Bob wanted to attaché his name to something he wouldn't have total control over.

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    John, does this make the "Super Amp" project more or less likely to happen?

    With Bob's assistance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldmodman View Post
    John, does this make the "Super Amp" project more or less likely to happen?

    With Bob's assistance?
    It's on my friend....

    As soon as I have everybody that wants in gets off the pot, I am ready to roll.

    I have decided to go with the new KT 150 output tubes, meaning these new amps will hit 500wpc @8ohms.
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    I really want to hear a good amp with Kt-150s. Just tell your associates to squeeze it off and get to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nooshinjohn View Post
    It's on my friend....

    As soon as I have everybody that wants in gets off the pot, I am ready to roll.

    I have decided to go with the new KT 150 output tubes, meaning these new amps will hit 500wpc @8ohms.
    id love to get my ears on that :)

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    I'd settle for the tubes John has NOW to get my ears on....

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitdogg2 View Post
    I'd settle for the tubes John has NOW to get my ears on....
    They do sound as sexy as they look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarqueKnight View Post
    Translation: Pulling up Emo was going to be way more work than he thought.
    This! Plus the fact that he is almost 70? I had to figure that out from the Stereophile article/interview with him in the '90s?

    It's also incredible what a paucity of "biographical" information there is on Bob on the web? Even the WIKI entry is paltry, doesn't even say where he went to school or what university he studied engineering and physics at? Why such a lack of info? Seems BIZARRE considering the mark he has left on the field at large. I can only conclude that he is "actively" trying to erase his personal history much like another, now infamous, counter culture anti-hero of the 70s? I am just kidding of course. But I still find it odd, these days, when you can find anything. Heck there is more info about many of "us" here, including me, than Bob online?

    There is, of course, most of the AUDIO history from Phase Linear on up. But that is hardly personal and complete.

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