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    Default Looking into Subwoofer options and opinions wanted

    Well this past weekend I went ahead and sold the VMPS 210 passive subwoofer I had been using. It was a great sub, but not the easiest to incorporate into my system.

    I'm looking for a budget replacement for dual use in my 2ch and HT system. Looking for musical options along with best bang for my buck low HZ capabilities. I'm leaning towards the Polk 505 on sale at Newegg, but am also open to other options under $300 (I know it's not much) from Amazon or internet direct or used. In the future I'll be looking to upgrade to something such as a HSU VTF2 MK4 or SVS PC12 NSD but that is later not today.

    For the following options I am looking for hands on experience or just opinion on positives or negatives compared to the Polk 505.

    Local used option:

    Klipsch KSW 12 $150

    Amazon options w/ free 2nd day shipping:

    BIC America F12 $182.27
    JBL ES250 PBK $199.99
    Dayton Audio Sub 1200 $129.00

    Any thoughts besides I'm an idiot for selling the VMPS?
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    Check out the Boone area CL Travis, there was a sub on it for sale last week. I'm on the work computer so I can't view CL right now. Otherwise, I'd save up for a bit and try and snag a HSU STF-2, I'm sure they will go on sale soon as we have some holidays coming up. Good luck! If you ever want to hear my Outlaw I'm just down the mountain from ya'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNHNDYMAN View Post
    Amazon options w/ free 2nd day shipping:

    BIC America F12 $182.27
    JBL ES250 PBK $199.99
    Dayton Audio Sub 1200 $129.00
    No, No and No.

    If it was me and that was my budget and I didnt want to wait for that CL deal, go with this: DSWpro550wi

    Polks eBay site has them for 300 w/ free shipping. Best thing..... its wireless......... so your whole where do I put it in my setup just got a LOT easier. Oh and yeah, its got a warranty.....

    Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/DSWpro550wi-...item53fc02b3bb
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    I've got something you might like...pm coming.

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    ^ got pm, now I'm researching and tempted....

    Dan- the Polk 550 is nice, but goes down to 30HZ at -3dB and the wireless kit is another 83.97 so getting past budget. Anyone use one of the Klipsch KSW series? I know they are overpriced new at bestbuy, but used on CL for around $125 might be ok for now.

    rooftop is tempting me greatly with a HSU VTF 3r priced at my upper range if I stretch a bit...decisions

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNHNDYMAN View Post
    ^ got pm, now I'm researching and tempted....

    Dan- the Polk 550 is nice, but goes down to 30HZ at -3dB and the wireless kit is another 83.97 so getting past budget. Anyone use one of the Klipsch KSW series? I know they are overpriced new at bestbuy, but used on CL for around $125 might be ok for now.

    rooftop is tempting me greatly with a HSU VTF 3r priced at my upper range if I stretch a bit...decisions
    If you can do the HSU, do it. Worth reaching a bit as its better than all the other subs we've suggested.

    I didnt realize the wireless kit was extra (DOH!) my bad, but its at least an option later on....
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    What are you using as fronts?
    I've tried few subs with 2B's and big towers from other brands and the small ones didn't add much impact.

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    ^
    2ch- Polk LsiM 703's

    HT- for now have Phase Technology PC-100's ( soft dome tweet, 2 6 1/2 drivers, tower enclosure), but I also throw the monitor 7's, KLH 23's, and some Paradigm 3se into the mix occasionally. None of them go much below 40HZ so a sub is necessary for full range sound - especially LFE soundtracks in movies.

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    Save your money and get a good subwoofer the first time.

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    Just missed a sale at Newegg, they had the 505 for 149 over this past weekend
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNHNDYMAN View Post
    ^
    2ch- Polk LsiM 703's

    HT- for now have Phase Technology PC-100's ( soft dome tweet, 2 6 1/2 drivers, tower enclosure), but I also throw the monitor 7's, KLH 23's, and some Paradigm 3se into the mix occasionally. None of them go much below 40HZ so a sub is necessary for full range sound - especially LFE soundtracks in movies.
    I never had the micro subwoofers so can't say how they work with big fronts but if getting regular ones, get at least 12" going down to around 23-25hz for movies.

    My Energy e:XL-S8 sounds great for small room and moderate levels but when cranked, it can't keep up with the fronts.
    That's when I bring the 500w Deftech 15" sub out.

    Also, don't get a sub that just works with your existing fronts.
    Get something that will work when you upgrade fronts, so get better one now.

    BTW, just saw this Velodyne 10" wireless subwoofer for a great price of $159 free shipping...
    http://velodyne.com/special-offers/w...-wireless.html
    Coupon VSUB10.
    Not sure how low that goes but great price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystery View Post
    BTW, just saw this Velodyne 10" wireless subwoofer for a great price of $159 free shipping...
    http://velodyne.com/special-offers/w...-wireless.html
    Coupon VSUB10.
    Not sure how low that goes but great price.
    Specs say 33hz -3db, and the cheap velodynes are usually get what you pay for kind of subs. The high end ones are a different story...

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    rooftop- Is yours black or rosenut finish? I'm leaning towards saying yes, working on finishing up another couple sales I have verbal commitments to and if they go thru another $300 so I should be able to convince the wife with the addition of a new Vera Bradley purse as well as a sub.....lol

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    I've got a KSW 10 in my A7 system, adds just the right thump at all volumes, I can only imagine the thump the KSW 12 puts out.
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    Rooftop- Doing some research on this sub, I found this thread you started on CP awhile back....

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/show...cap-separation


    Did you ever try to seal the sub, or get a response from HSU? Not a deal killer, just looking for an update to how things have worked since that time.

    Thanks.

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    here is a link to a review: http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volum...er-1-2004.html

    I will have to get back to you on shipping.

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    Got your update Paul. Thanks for all the info and disclosures and great price as well. Guy's it looks like I might have a new sub if the new sub rooftop is waiting on arrives in proper condition.

    We'll like I always try to warn the new guys, you guys are great at spending every last dime of budget and then some of other people's money. Thanks! lol

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    Hmmm... I wonder what he is moving to...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNHNDYMAN View Post
    Got your update Paul. Thanks for all the info and disclosures and great price as well. Guy's it looks like I might have a new sub if the new sub rooftop is waiting on arrives in proper condition.
    We'll like I always try to warn the new guys, you guys are great at spending every last dime of budget and then some of other people's money. Thanks! lol
    Good score....is this his sub? http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/ele/4113618262.html

    I was going to post to be patient and save up a little more given that you were starting with $300. There are SO many great used subs that pop up in the $300-$450 price range. Also, the DIY type could build an Dayton Audio RS sub w/ Dayton Passive Radiator, and a cheap Yung 200 watt amp for about $300 in parts plus the cost of wood to build the enclosure. Would probably sound better for ones 2 ch rig as well as HT that anything you can get for close to the price new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by codyc1ark View Post
    Hmmm... I wonder what he is moving to...
    Its actually just a lateral move at best to an SVS PB10-ISD (the older version). My HT is all stealth except for the sub, which is now an end table that the wife does not particularly like (our colors tend to be warm and romantic not dark old world). So the SVS is all front firing and will fit in our wall to wall custom built ins, and should provide about the same kick for the once-every-three-months I actually watch a movie

    I hope it all works out!

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    Get the HSU offered to you and don't look back. Nice dual purpose sub.

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    We've worked it out already as long as the SVS arrives undamaged and working properly, I will be buying the HSU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WLDock View Post
    Good score....is this his sub? http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/ele/4113618262.html

    I was going to post to be patient and save up a little more given that you were starting with $300. There are SO many great used subs that pop up in the $300-$450 price range. Also, the DIY type could build an Dayton Audio RS sub w/ Dayton Passive Radiator, and a cheap Yung 200 watt amp for about $300 in parts plus the cost of wood to build the enclosure. Would probably sound better for ones 2 ch rig as well as HT that anything you can get for close to the price new.


    No that's not his sub. His is a Mk2 version with down firing driver and piano gloss top and bottoms.

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    Given your budget, I think you'd do more harm than good to your lsim703's. Seriously. Friends don't let friends buy cheap subs. Cheap subs rarely reach lower (accurately) than a well designed monitor. TRUTH.

    FWIW I also have always run a 2-channel/HT, and I am extremely anal about my 2-channel accuracy. It's difficult enough trying to get a good sub to play well with others. Wait, SAVE, buy 1 sub, REPEAT.
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    ^ if you would see the full thread, you would see I'm buying an HSU VTF-3r from rooftop 59 (pretty damn good sub best I can tell)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNHNDYMAN View Post
    ^ if you would see the full thread, you would see I'm buying an HSU VTF-3r from rooftop 59 (pretty damn good sub best I can tell)
    My bad, sorry about that. Good choice. You'll be glad you went that route.

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    Thanks Steve- I'm really looking forward to it. Fingers crossed rooftop is happy with his new sub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNHNDYMAN View Post
    Thanks Steve- I'm really looking forward to it. Fingers crossed rooftop is happy with his new sub.
    It's a great sub and I bet you'll be happy! Now you can start looking into room correction ;).
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    Quote Originally Posted by zingo View Post
    Save your money and get a good subwoofer the first time.
    Agree, do it once, do it right.
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