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    Default Tube Pre-amp under 600 dollars

    So I have decided that more than likely for now I will be sticking with a SS amp for various reasons that dont need to be specified right now. I know lots of folks suggest getting a tubed pre to mate with a SS amp so you can enjoy some of the pro's of the tubes without some of the cons.

    So if a fella were to say have around 500-600 bucks total for a pre what would you suggest?

    I would need at least the following:

    1. 2 RCA inputs
    2. Remote for volume

    I would also "like" the following:

    1. Phono input
    2. Remote that also has input switching
    3. Coaxial input

    I am aware of the Dared SL-2000a and its pretty high up on my list as well as the Dared MC-7P (slightly out of my budget). If I didnt need a remote I might also be looking at the Yaqin MS 12B.

    So anyway suggest away.......

    Note: I am aware that there are tube buffers that I could use to do something similar, however it adds the need for more IC's and I am trying to simply my system as much as I can. I am also aware I could get a tube integrated amp however again, tube amps require a bit more time to dedicate to listen to them, troubleshoot them, etc than I have at the present moment.
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    Rogue 66 or 66 Magnum.
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    That's a very tough order if you want remote at that price point. Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkg999 View Post
    Rogue 66 or 66 Magnum.
    And those are in that price range?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkg999 View Post
    Rogue 66 or 66 Magnum.
    Never seen one FS for $500-600, if I did, I'd own one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EndersShadow View Post
    And those are in that price range?
    None I've ever run across.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heiney9 View Post
    Never seen one FS for $500-600, if I did, I'd own one.
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    None I've ever run across.

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    LOL... that sucks.....

    So the Dared's are probably the best route then?
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    Well, I have been googling some older listings for the Rogue. Maybe you can get one at that price if you are patient or perhaps one that has some slight cosmetic issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heiney9 View Post
    Well, I have been googling some older listings for the Rogue. Maybe you can get one at that price if you are patient or perhaps one that has some slight cosmetic issues.

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    Well I am VERY patient.... and for now my Sunfire performs adequately and since none of the pre's seem to have a DAC included I would need to buy a DAC to go with it and possibly a phono as it appears the Rouge 66 comes with either a remote OR phono stage, but not both. The Dared MC-7p has both.

    And while an integrated may add the DAC and remote and phono, I dont have the warm up time required for it to really sound the best.
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    Why not save an extra 300-350 and wait for an Odyssey Candela?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VR3 View Post
    Why not save an extra 300-350 and wait for an Odyssey Candela?
    Because honestly I doubt I will ever have the scratch saved up to buy something in that range. Not impossible, but unlikely....
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    Quote Originally Posted by EndersShadow View Post
    And those are in that price range?
    When I purchased my Rogue Magnum 66 (remote) over a year ago, ~600 was the going price or at least from the pieces I saw. I was lucky enough to get mine for 650 shipped in excellent condition with a pair of RCA clear tops. I might have been just super lucky then hearing what you guys are saying. The economy wasn't so great last year either and prices were pretty low all around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EndersShadow View Post
    Because honestly I doubt I will ever have the scratch saved up to buy something in that range. Not impossible, but unlikely....
    If I was able to drop $2k on my pre/mono combo, you can save an extra $300 for a tubed pre. Have some patience and quit buying random **** and you'll get there soon enough.
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    oops, never mind :-(
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSkip View Post
    If I was able to drop $2k on my pre/mono combo, you can save an extra $300 for a tubed pre. Have some patience and quit buying random **** and you'll get there soon enough.
    Lol Skip I will see I just don't see that happening in the next bit. I can get to about 600 of if I sell my Denon and Sunfire. Any other cash would come from our downpayment on a house and that ain't happenin, as it appears my Citation isn't going to sell anytime soon.

    A used Dared SL-2000a would be right in line w my budget and potentially give me some room for a decent dac.
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    I have the MC-7P, it's great. The phono stage is fantastic. It does have a remote, but the remote is only for volume, not input switching. Save up a little more cash...
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    where there's a will there's a way, set up a special account, use coupons at the store, everytime you use a coupon put that amount in the account. take sandwiches to work, make your own coffee. get all the overtime you can or like me get that 401k loan. stay away from fast foods, go out to eat once or twice a month. everyday put the change in your pocket in a jar. just keep thinking preamp!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nspindel View Post
    I have the MC-7P, it's great. The phono stage is fantastic. It does have a remote, but the remote is only for volume, not input switching. Save up a little more cash...
    Yeah, the input switching would either be digital or TT and the TT requires me to get up anyway so that wouldnt be TOO much trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marvda1 View Post
    where there's a will there's a way, set up a special account, use coupons at the store, everytime you use a coupon put that amount in the account. take sandwiches to work, make your own coffee. get all the overtime you can or like me get that 401k loan. stay away from fast foods, go out to eat once or twice a month. everyday put the change in your pocket in a jar. just keep thinking preamp!!
    Would love to do that however any of that money is going into the downpayment on a house right now. I literally have no cash in my slush audio fund as my wife drained it till after we get a house. If I sell some items I can build it back up, but otherwise any extra pennies are going toward a house, which I prefer as a house gets me a dedicated room for 2 channel more than likely.

    So for now I may just have to sit pat for another 9 months unless I can sell my Denon, Sunfire and find a steal on a DAC and the Dared SL-2000a and just keep the Citation 11 as my phono pre....
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    i'd stick with your status quo for now until you can afford the MC-7P. The MC-7P is a much better sounding pre than the SL-2000a, I've owned both. The 2000 is no slouch, but the MC-7P is in a different league.
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    This one is in your price range:
    http://app.audiogon.com/listings/tub...plifiers-30067

    Maybe you can talk this guy down a little:
    http://app.audiogon.com/listings/tub...plifiers-92807

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    http://www.ys-audio.com/s2r.htm

    at a baseline level, this would work. For all your needs, not many tubed preamps with all that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sucks2beme View Post
    http://www.ys-audio.com/s2r.htm

    at a baseline level, this would work. For all your needs, not many tubed preamps with all that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSkip View Post
    Have some patience and quit buying random **** and you'll get there soon enough.
    You could be talking to me with this statement. haha

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    not sure if I'm allowed to mention THE auction site or not, but check out the dynaco pat3's on the site. usually a lot of nice one's
    on there; just have to keep a lookout. do a search on them. they are one vintage preamp that are still awesome. highly recommended in laura Dearborn's book "ggodsound".
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