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    If its a 25-31 NSD it will crush the Klipsch. If it's a 25-31PCPlus it will pulverize it...
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    As far as the Epiks...$575 for two twin opposed subs? Not a bad deal but the amps are something to think about. Would for sure fill your room. However, think about why the guy is selling them....he's going with a DIY twin 15's project...hint :WINK:

    As far as the SVS...what are you waiting on? Get it! Is that the one posted on CL in OH? I just missed on of those on CL last month in the same town I work in. Was was looking for one of those for awhile before I gave up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ken brydson View Post
    If its a 25-31 NSD it will crush the Klipsch. If it's a 25-31PCPlus it will pulverize it...
    its the tall tube type

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    What does the 25-31 stand for? Ratings or ability of sub somehow?

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    The cylinder subs came in three sized back then. The first number is the stock tuning frequency and the second is the height of the tube. Ex: 25-31(25Hz-31"tall), 20-39, 16-46,

    Next, they offered three levels of performance, from entry to top:
    PC (updated to PCi - better driver, 320 Watt BASH amp) MSRP ~$599
    PC Plus (Even better driver & more power, 525 Watt BASH amp) MSRP ~ $899
    PC Ultra (Best driver, 525 Watt BASH amp w/ EQ) MSRP~$1149

    Also, they made a non-powered range of passive cylinders, the CS line.
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    Old SVS Subwoofer FAQs
    http://www.sonicboomaudio.com/svs-su...html?chapter=5



    the more you know!....
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    Quote Originally Posted by WLDock View Post
    Old SVS Subwoofer FAQs
    http://www.sonicboomaudio.com/svs-su...html?chapter=5



    the more you know!....
    wow, thanks.... Tons of info

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    Waiting for him to get back to me if it's powered or passive before I make the trip

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    Boo.. Passive :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by WLDock View Post
    the more you know!....
    The less likely you are to see a GI Joe!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweets10v8 View Post
    Boo.. Passive :(
    It's still a great deal. I sent u a pm about a possible amp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rooftop59 View Post
    It's still a great deal. I sent u a pm about a possible amp.
    That's what I was gonna say. $200 for the sub and source a cheap amp and you're miles ahead of what you'd pick up new retail...
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    Theres a powered 25-31 for $270, and a powered 16-46 for $500 but they are 5 hrs away :(

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    Not even close to being worth the drive. Just get the 25-31 CS for $200 and pick up a 250-300 watt plate amp from Parts Express for $120-$160. Can find a metal enclosure to put the amp in or make one out of wood. Would be a nice under $400 sub system.

    Or again consider DIY, looks like Epik might have some of the 12"s still available: https://store.epiksubwoofers.com/Pro...oductCode=12AD

    Get two of those for $150, get a couple of plate amps for $250, or a used pro amp like a Behringer EP for $150-$200. Then get some wood, glue, nails, wire, terminals and make a couple of dual sealed or ported for under $500.
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    The guy also has a fidek FPA-400 professional power amplifier with bridge. Didnt say what he wanted for it. He also has these weird Norh 4 speakers too...

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    Oh, I saw that listing...He's in Metro Detroit, thats where I'm originally from. That Fidek amp does 200watts per channel into 4 ohms. have an extra channel if you decide to add a second passive sub. Could put a quiet fan in it if that has not been done that. Supposed to be about 30lbs and SVS sold those for $319 as options to drive the passive subs. I never heard those Norh speakers...or conversation piece drums, LOL! I just remember seeing them in audio magazines for years.
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    Talking to the other guy that would meet me in Toledo, I just pay his gas and tolls for the powered 25-31. Assuming 30MPG, Id be at $300-310 ish for the powered. Then not need for extra stuff, and it would only be about 20-30 minutes father than the passive one!

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    $300 is still a good deal IMO...
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    Heck, your room is narrow and long...go get them both! :)
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    Send $$$$, and I will!! Haha

    Here is my beginners man cave, moms old couches, bar top tables, 4 tap kegerator. It's great when you turn out the lights...haha

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    Kegerator and Av junk in back...... Including the tiny klipsch sub 10,


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    ummm, I'm thinking I'd like to come over and watch a movie with you. Are those taps loaded???
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    They are! Just had superbowl party so I went with a variety. Right now;

    1. Wild Cherry Pepsi
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    Is the big opening in the wall going make my sub feel smaller? Assuming so because the room size is so much larger actually for waves to travel.

    Can I, or should I make some kind of temporary or removable block/filler for that cut out to used during "movie time"?

    Since Ill have 2 subs, and I have a Y splitter.... Im thinking of trying to run both just to see what it sounds like, or is this a waist of time bc they are so different?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweets10v8 View Post
    Is the big opening in the wall going make my sub feel smaller? Assuming so because the room size is so much larger actually for waves to travel.

    Can I, or should I make some kind of temporary or removable block/filler for that cut out to used during "movie time"?

    Since Ill have 2 subs, and I have a Y splitter.... Im thinking of trying to run both just to see what it sounds like, or is this a waist of time bc they are so different?
    For hole in the wall, are referring to the fireplace? If so, yeah, you could take a sheet of anything to slide in front of it for a temp set up.

    Do you feel any bass with your sub in that corner? It looks so far away from the action so to speak.

    Heck yeah, if you've got two subs, try 'em out, I'd try one up front and one in the back and see if it improves your overall bass response.
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    Ive got the fireplace covered already, just to stop a draft issue. If you look close you can see I built an insulated box around it.

    I was refering talking the cutout above the ugly blue couch, and the super wide doorway next to it (that also leads right up the stairs as well, that you also cant see)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweets10v8 View Post
    Ive got the fireplace covered already, just to stop a draft issue. If you look close you can see I built an insulated box around it.

    I was refering talking the cutout above the ugly blue couch, and the super wide doorway next to it (that also leads right up the stairs as well, that you also cant see)
    Oh, well, what does the boss say, can you drywall it in? And possibly make a door for the entry? That's what I'd do
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    I wouldn't even do that, at big parties we put bar stools there too and we get 3 more seats. That's why I'd do a temp or removable option.

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    That's why the second sub would be good. Do the sub crawl, and try putting the subs on opposite walls, etc.
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