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    All great responses. And I agree with assimilated. The element millenium bookies are among the best I have heard. The transition from powerful sound to detailed sound is a bridge that most people will not cross. I have been intrigued with the raal and air motive tweeter as of late. But. I feel the mids is the core of any speaker.

    Regardless of the highs or the lows, the core is the mid. All else is what complicates personal preference. I regret not getting Tyler's for their implementation of seas drivers.

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    Really? $5K for a speaker, and over half the suggestions are bookshelf? One wonders what kind of music, as well as the volume listened to, here. Half of that would grab a pair of used Legacy Focus. Cannot understand wanting a 6" woofer, when you could have 3 quality 12"s or 15"'s for the money... But then I guess, I'm a little bit rock 'n' roll. Oh well, have fun with what you like, I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayce1971 View Post
    Really? $5K for a speaker, and over half the suggestions are bookshelf? One wonders what kind of music, as well as the volume listened to, here. Half of that would grab a pair of used Legacy Focus. Cannot understand wanting a 6" woofer, when you could have 3 quality 12"s or 15"'s for the money... But then I guess, I'm a little bit rock 'n' roll. Oh well, have fun with what you like, I guess.
    His listening room won't accompany towers with quality sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayce1971 View Post
    Really? $5K for a speaker, and over half the suggestions are bookshelf? One wonders what kind of music, as well as the volume listened to, here. Half of that would grab a pair of used Legacy Focus. Cannot understand wanting a 6" woofer, when you could have 3 quality 12"s or 15"'s for the money... But then I guess, I'm a little bit rock 'n' roll. Oh well, have fun with what you like, I guess.
    Really? You missed this part of his post?
    I'm looking for bookshelves/monitors or small standers. This is going in a 12x14 room, so monoliths need not apply.
    Maybe the others are a little less rock and roll...and just a bit more reading comprehension.
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    I LOVE my Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus speakers. Simply put, I love the laid back sound and the clarity is awesome. If you went with a pair of monitors from SF I'll bet you'll be delighted to say the least.

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    How about AAD too. I know Phil really had a hard time letting his go.

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    I really like the ScanSpeak Aircirc tweeter. How about some Fritz?

    http://www.fritzspeakers.com/ScanSpeak-REV_7.asp

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    You've no idea how many times I've looked at that ad.
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    So what's the story on those Element speakers? Did the guys shut down, is he able to make a pair for you, have any left from before?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsSiMiLaTeD View Post
    So what's the story on those Element speakers? Did the guys shut down, is he able to make a pair for you, have any left from before?
    There is no story at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZLTFUL View Post
    Really? You missed this part of his post?

    Maybe the others are a little less rock and roll...and just a bit more reading comprehension.
    Touche'. Absolutely missed it. More to do with attention span than comprehension, though. Anyhoo, I personally wouldn't have any suggestions, as this amount of scratch for tiny speakers is beyond my comprehension to begin with. But I certainly hope the op is able to find a listenable pair of actuators that suit his purpose, (in this price range, almost guaranteed). Lord knows, there is a buck to be made between audiophiles and audio epistemologists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayce1971 View Post
    Touche'. Absolutely missed it. More to do with attention span than comprehension, though. Anyhoo, I personally wouldn't have any suggestions, as this amount of scratch for tiny speakers is beyond my comprehension to begin with. But I certainly hope the op is able to find a listenable pair of actuators that suit his purpose, (in this price range, almost guaranteed). Lord knows, there is a buck to be made between audiophiles and audio epistemologists.
    I chatted with Tom a few nights ago and shared my feelings about dropping $5k on a pair of speakers. 2 years ago when I got my Usher's, I was able to walk them out the door only $650 poorer. The amount of money at that time blew me away - I couldn't believe that i just dropped that much on a single pair of speakers. However, through monetary gifts, poker winnings, and some good luck on the local craigslist, I've reached a point where I could easily reach the $5k mark if a 'keeper' presented itself. $100 here and there really begins to add up, and if you're a dedicated consumer on top of that, well within a few years you've accumulated enough assets to almost fund a new car purchase.

    My addiction funds my addiction. I know I'm not the norm, but its the only way I can continue to progress in this hobby. Its also provided a wealth of experience that has helped me grow as an audiophile.
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    Say it like it is Skippers....you are an Ethiopian-Jew
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    Does your wallet screech when you try to open it ? LOL
    Still have those High School gym shorts you wear to mow the lawn ? LOL

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    Um... my wallet literally can't open :D

    Check on the gym shorts too. Actually, I think those shorts are from middle school.


    I have to be a bit frugal still being in school and all. August should help tremendously when my salary, sadly, should almost double as a teacher.
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    DSkip = Craigslist King

    When you get the deals he's gotten, you can afford $5K speakers. That being said, it's his patience, dilegence, and knowledge of of pricing that allows him to get such great deals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSkip View Post
    I chatted with Tom a few nights ago and shared my feelings about dropping $5k on a pair of speakers. 2 years ago when I got my Usher's, I was able to walk them out the door only $650 poorer. The amount of money at that time blew me away - I couldn't believe that i just dropped that much on a single pair of speakers. However, through monetary gifts, poker winnings, and some good luck on the local craigslist, I've reached a point where I could easily reach the $5k mark if a 'keeper' presented itself. $100 here and there really begins to add up, and if you're a dedicated consumer on top of that, well within a few years you've accumulated enough assets to almost fund a new car purchase.

    My addiction funds my addiction. I know I'm not the norm, but its the only way I can continue to progress in this hobby. Its also provided a wealth of experience that has helped me grow as an audiophile.
    Now you're talking my language. I TOTALLY identify with this and would have a tough time budgeting 5K for a set of speakers, and besides, my wife would probably divorce me! lol

    Nothing I own has ever been bought at more than 40 percent of its MSRP. And my SDAs came in at a little over $120 +$40 in transport. My JBL L80Ts refurb from JBL with a 5 year warranty at one third their MSRP. And so on.

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    Hmmm.....5k for bookies ? I think I could find a bookie that would please me for 3k....and spend the other 2k in the Caribbean.

    Take the wife/girlfriend on a little getaway....makes those audio purchases easier to swallow for the other half.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyb View Post
    Hmmm.....5k for bookies ? I think I could find a bookie that would please me for 3k....and spend the other 2k in the Caribbean.

    Take the wife/girlfriend on a little getaway....makes those audio purchases easier to swallow for the other half.
    The speakers on my list are about $2k. I expanded the budget just to see what if there was something above there that might be a game changer. I'm trying to network for an Oppo right now so speakers are on hold, but if my cables sell, I might be right back in the market to see what changes. I'm pretty damn content with my Ushers now that I've recreated the synergy I was lacking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSkip View Post
    You've no idea how many times I've looked at that ad.
    Stop looking and buy them. I've heard them a few times now on different gear in different rooms, simply incredible!!!
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    DSkip,

    How about Harbeth P3ESR, aka BBC LS3/5a. I have never heard them, but they are on my list along with Spendor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F1nut View Post
    Stop looking and buy them. I've heard them a few times now on different gear in different rooms, simply incredible!!!
    This is the monitor I'm trying to track down:

    http://www.stereomojo.com/Element%20...akerReview.htm

    Review done by our very own Marvin. At full price, I'd probably go after the Pulsar. At the price I'm hoping to (and thinking I can) get the one above, I don't think there'd be enough performance difference to justify the cost of a used Pulsar at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D_M View Post
    DSkip,

    How about Harbeth P3ESR, aka BBC LS3/5a. I have never heard them, but they are on my list along with Spendor.
    Harbeth is on the list of speakers that I want to hear, but given their polarizing performance, I'd never look seriously until I got my ears on them.
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    If you haven't looked, check out the Vapor Sound, Evolution Acoustics, and ClearWave offerings for under 5K.

    I would banged this all day long.

    http://app.audiogon.com/listings/ful...-manchester-nh
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    Quote Originally Posted by megasat16 View Post
    I'd be in for the Raal/Accutron combo! Oh, I already am...;) With some Scan-Speak Revelators below the waist.

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    Those look interesting but I hate that gaudy finish. The color, the grain; tacky!

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    Quote Originally Posted by megasat16 View Post
    If you haven't looked, check out the Vapor Sound, Evolution Acoustics, and ClearWave offerings for under 5K.

    I would banged this all day long.

    http://app.audiogon.com/listings/ful...-manchester-nh
    Vapor speakers are nice and sound great, but there's sometimes a very long wait. Just a FYI...

    Selah audio is also worth checking out: http://www.selahaudio.com/id75.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by cnh View Post
    Those look interesting but I hate that gaudy finish. The color, the grain; tacky!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCompRacer View Post
    I'd be in for the Raal/Accutron combo! Oh, I already am...;) With some Scan-Speak Revelators below the waist.


    That's basically the Selah Tempesta
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