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    Hey all. I was offered a psw10 still in its box for 100 bucks from a co- worker. Would it be worth it?? I would probably use it for my 2ch setup. They got it b/c it was gunna be used as a second sub in their h/t setup. After much deliberation, they decided to go with a more powerful sub, but missed the return window...hence the offer to me lol. I saw a lot of good reviews on it, and it would be for music only. Suggestions??
    My 3.1 HT setup: Pioneer SP-FS52x2, Pioneer SP-C22, SVS PB1000, Denon AVR 1613, PS3 slim, Samsung 46" 3D TV.
    My 2ch Music setup: Polk R40s, Yamaha RX-496 stereo receiver, Auvio Bluetooth w/NFC Music Receiver, JSI DVD/CD Player with HDMI upconvert.

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    Not worth it. More port noise than bass output, and not musical at all. I paid $80 for mine just to use in the garage, and resold it the next day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by felipe View Post
    Hey all. I was offered a psw10 still in its box for 100 bucks from a co- worker. Would it be worth it?? I would probably use it for my 2ch setup. They got it b/c it was gunna be used as a second sub in their h/t setup. After much deliberation, they decided to go with a more powerful sub, but missed the return window...hence the offer to me lol. I saw a lot of good reviews on it, and it would be for music only. Suggestions??
    Would your co-worker allow you to demo it in your system first before committing to buy? No harm in asking, then let your ears decide.

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    That's one flaw I've seen on researching this sub...port noise. I see the pio sub (sw mk2) is on sale for about the same price. I'm not looking for anything over the top, just a good musical sub to complement my bs22s. The less I can spend, the better.

    I guess I can try and audition it..I'll have to ask.
    My 3.1 HT setup: Pioneer SP-FS52x2, Pioneer SP-C22, SVS PB1000, Denon AVR 1613, PS3 slim, Samsung 46" 3D TV.
    My 2ch Music setup: Polk R40s, Yamaha RX-496 stereo receiver, Auvio Bluetooth w/NFC Music Receiver, JSI DVD/CD Player with HDMI upconvert.

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    the less you spend the more you spend. sure an 80 buck sub might cut it for now, but as you get a better ear for things you will upgrade, so 80 here, 200 there, 500 down the road, gets real expensive. look for something used in the 2-400 price range and im sure your ears will stay happy a lot longer and your wallet too. never heard myself but everyone raves on the, hsu, svs and velodyne. seen used ones well within that range, do your research and bring home a winner. polk dsw series are great subs all around, and the psw 110 is a great performer, if you can find a deal on it (after owning one for a while, im glad i found it for 159. and not 250.) dont think i would pay the full retail on it. but, like i said do your research, listen for yourself, and find a sub that suits your needs.
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    I have one..... mostly boom. Because it is all I have to work with, and I put money elsewhere for now.... I dynamatted the entire inside (basket, tube, cab, etc) and I put it on spikes. All the materials I used were leftovers from other projects. All of that tightened up the sound considerably.
    That being said, I am thinking this is my next upgrade.
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    I agree, the psw110 is a great performer..having owning one myself. It integrates perfectly with my pio floor standers (fs 52)and pio center ( c22). I'll continue the research and find one that will fit my needs and easy on my wallet ;-)
    My 3.1 HT setup: Pioneer SP-FS52x2, Pioneer SP-C22, SVS PB1000, Denon AVR 1613, PS3 slim, Samsung 46" 3D TV.
    My 2ch Music setup: Polk R40s, Yamaha RX-496 stereo receiver, Auvio Bluetooth w/NFC Music Receiver, JSI DVD/CD Player with HDMI upconvert.

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    I use a Yamaha YST-SW216. Not top of the line by any means, but have been happy with it over the years. Cost about as much as the PSW10.

    http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-YST-SW2...maha+yst+sw216

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    Looks like a few open box PSW505 available on amazon for 175.00. New, 195.00. Free shipping.

    http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-12-...pr_product_top

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    That's a good price on those. But, I'm now using the 110 as my sub in the 2ch setup now. My other half likes r& b, and she wasn't satisfied with just the bookshelf pios. So, thru some negotiation,I reintegrated the BIC f12 into the H/T setup and put the 110 in the 2ch setup. After tweaking both setups, both I and my other half are happy now:-) Actually, I'm surprised at the SQ of the f12 now. Maybe b/c its being used with floor standers now, but it sounds smoother and more articulate than before...I got the xover set at 40 for the mains and 60 for the center...I think that might the reason. This sub seems/to shine in the 60 and below region...that's just an observational guess at this point.

    As for the 110 now, it integrated seamlessly with the bookshelf pios. I got the gain at roughly 1/4 volume, and the xover midpoint between 60 and 90..probably at 70-75 I would say. Hey, you know the saying...happy wife,happy life lol.
    My 3.1 HT setup: Pioneer SP-FS52x2, Pioneer SP-C22, SVS PB1000, Denon AVR 1613, PS3 slim, Samsung 46" 3D TV.
    My 2ch Music setup: Polk R40s, Yamaha RX-496 stereo receiver, Auvio Bluetooth w/NFC Music Receiver, JSI DVD/CD Player with HDMI upconvert.

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    I owned one years ago and quickly got rid of it. I wouldn't even use one for a desktop 2.1 setup if it was free. Now, the PSW505, OTTO, is a good entry level sub that performs well.
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    Just stumbled upon a lightly used psw404 for 75. How would this compare to my psw110??
    My 3.1 HT setup: Pioneer SP-FS52x2, Pioneer SP-C22, SVS PB1000, Denon AVR 1613, PS3 slim, Samsung 46" 3D TV.
    My 2ch Music setup: Polk R40s, Yamaha RX-496 stereo receiver, Auvio Bluetooth w/NFC Music Receiver, JSI DVD/CD Player with HDMI upconvert.

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    Get a PSW-505, I only use it for movies as my speakers have good bass for music

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Polk-Audio-P...item540859b0c0

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    + 1 or maybe try a BIC F12
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    I currently have the BIC f12 for/my HT setup. This will be for my music setup..which is where my psw110 currently is at. I could sell the psw110 for 100 easily where I'm at. For music, would the 404 be better??
    My 3.1 HT setup: Pioneer SP-FS52x2, Pioneer SP-C22, SVS PB1000, Denon AVR 1613, PS3 slim, Samsung 46" 3D TV.
    My 2ch Music setup: Polk R40s, Yamaha RX-496 stereo receiver, Auvio Bluetooth w/NFC Music Receiver, JSI DVD/CD Player with HDMI upconvert.

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    Save up a few bucks and get a real sub. ED offers the best bang for buck IMO. SVS and HSU are excellent choices...
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    Those are excellent sub's...but not looking to spend much. Just thought that the 404 for 75 bucks sounded like a pretty good deal. I'm a budget buyer :-) For music, would the 404 outperform my 110??
    My 3.1 HT setup: Pioneer SP-FS52x2, Pioneer SP-C22, SVS PB1000, Denon AVR 1613, PS3 slim, Samsung 46" 3D TV.
    My 2ch Music setup: Polk R40s, Yamaha RX-496 stereo receiver, Auvio Bluetooth w/NFC Music Receiver, JSI DVD/CD Player with HDMI upconvert.

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    Nothing wrong with being on a budget, I'm that way myself. If you want a one note wonder "woof in a box", by all means pick up a budget sub. Once you've heard what a quality sub will add to your system you'll wish you'd done it sooner....
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    That might be true. Can a budget sub have quality sound?? I think it can. I'm not looking for big boom bang...just a budget musical sub that fills/blends in with my bs22s. I've read good reviews on the AJ pio sub..so I think I'm gunna get one and try it out. I can always return it. My budget is bout 150..200 max.
    My 3.1 HT setup: Pioneer SP-FS52x2, Pioneer SP-C22, SVS PB1000, Denon AVR 1613, PS3 slim, Samsung 46" 3D TV.
    My 2ch Music setup: Polk R40s, Yamaha RX-496 stereo receiver, Auvio Bluetooth w/NFC Music Receiver, JSI DVD/CD Player with HDMI upconvert.

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    run the f12 for music and the 505 for HT, try the upgrades that steve did to his ten, i would imagine it would tighten up the response of both the f12 and the 505
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    Fronts: Polk RTiA3
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    Center: CS13
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    TV: samsung 40
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    Amp:Parasound 1200 MK II
    Sub:RBH 1010-SEP
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    Well today I took a plung and got the AJ pio sub...I'll be returning it. Why? Not b/c of how it sounded.. It sounded damn near perfect... Tight,punchy,yet full and deep. What ruined it?? When its plugged in, it makes a humming sound that comes from the driver itself and the amp makes a slight high pitch him. I went online and did a search on this, and turns out this is a somewhat common issue with these. Darn it!! So, it'll be going back.

    As far as upgrading my 110, I don't have any dynamat, but would lining the cab and tube with sheet polyfil work as well? After hearing the pio sub, now I wanna get as close to that kind of bass as I can. What about doing the same with my f12??
    My 3.1 HT setup: Pioneer SP-FS52x2, Pioneer SP-C22, SVS PB1000, Denon AVR 1613, PS3 slim, Samsung 46" 3D TV.
    My 2ch Music setup: Polk R40s, Yamaha RX-496 stereo receiver, Auvio Bluetooth w/NFC Music Receiver, JSI DVD/CD Player with HDMI upconvert.

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    I used extra loft polyfil sheeting on the port tubes and any area where there wasn't polyfil (except by the amp area) on both my psw110 and my f12. The 110 a noticeable difference..tighter and punchier than before...a bit cleaner too. It also blends with my bs22s as well as the pio sub did..which is what I was aiming for. Haven't tried the f12 yet tho ;-)
    My 3.1 HT setup: Pioneer SP-FS52x2, Pioneer SP-C22, SVS PB1000, Denon AVR 1613, PS3 slim, Samsung 46" 3D TV.
    My 2ch Music setup: Polk R40s, Yamaha RX-496 stereo receiver, Auvio Bluetooth w/NFC Music Receiver, JSI DVD/CD Player with HDMI upconvert.

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    Tried the f12..same noticeable difference..and it seems to hit lower as well:-). And, for some reason it seems harder to locate where the lows are now as well. I guess by adding additional polyfil it eliminated the boxyness of the sound, thus allowing the sound to better blend with the rest of the speakers...that's just a guess based on what has happened with my mods and setup.

    Anywho, if your handy with stuff like this, and your sub sounds boomy/boxy, polyfil WILL help with that;-)
    My 3.1 HT setup: Pioneer SP-FS52x2, Pioneer SP-C22, SVS PB1000, Denon AVR 1613, PS3 slim, Samsung 46" 3D TV.
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    Try to work out an audition before you buy.

    A lot depends on the acoustics of your room, and the rig you're adding it to. For my space, equipment, and budget, the PSW10 is great. You do have to find the sweet spot for crossover and volume, which does take a little bit of effort.

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    Just learning about this product.. reading along further to learn more. Great post felipe!!!

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    Thanks AudioPro. Welcome to club Polk:-)...if no has welcomed you yet lol. If your interested in sub's, Polks psw110 is a good one to start with. Or, if your budget permits it, go SVS, trust me you won't go back. Polk makes excellent speakers:-) can't go wrong with them.
    My 3.1 HT setup: Pioneer SP-FS52x2, Pioneer SP-C22, SVS PB1000, Denon AVR 1613, PS3 slim, Samsung 46" 3D TV.
    My 2ch Music setup: Polk R40s, Yamaha RX-496 stereo receiver, Auvio Bluetooth w/NFC Music Receiver, JSI DVD/CD Player with HDMI upconvert.

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    An additional $0.02 after having my PSW10 for a couple of months now.

    It seems to be perfect for vintage 1970s and early 1980s 2-channel receivers/amps. On my Pioneer SX-737 (35wpc) with Boston Acoustics A40 Mk.II speakers, it is absolutely awesome. A friend who got one for his mid-1990s AVR (a 50wpc Sony something-or-other), it sounds hollow and quite boomy. Similar result on a 2010 Philips rig. I attribute it to the significant differences in the output circuitry of the amps vs. vintage equipment.

    The instructions recommend starting the volume halfway. I recommend starting just barely above the zero mark and working your way up until you find your sweet spot.

    Start with the crossover at the lowest setting (80Hz).

    Flat your bass and treble. Make sure a "Loudness" switch is set to Off. If you have an equalizer, bypass it.

    The type of main speakers you're driving also have a lot to do with how the bass come out. I think 2-way speakers are the best match for the PSW10. In a 3-way speaker, the resonance from the woofer pumping between your crossover setting and its internal crossover for the midrange can adversely affect the image depending on your room's acoustics and the type of music. (I noticed this particularly with classical and jazz.) For a 3-way, you'll most likely want to set the crossover to the highest setting (160Hz). Depending on your particular setup, you may also need to trim the bass more on your equipment. (An equalizer *may* help, but only if you already use one to compensate for other room acoustic issues beyond bass.)

    If you listen to a variety of musical styles, you will need to adjust the volume setting for each one. I mainly listen to 70s rock, and I've marked off one setting for that. 80s, classical, and jazz need it a smidge loewr. Contemporary music (which I listen to very little of) I usually turn it off and let my BAs handle it alone. If you run movies through your stereo, you'll mostly want to lower the bass on your amp (often too much of it in the program source).

    Placement makes a huge difference. For my space, I have it on the floor at a 45-degree angle to the main speakers, about 3' to the side of the main imaging area. That provides the desired enhancement of the bass in the program material, and also disperses the ambient effects across a wider range, and at an oblique angle. Placing it in the center of the image (same plane, head-on to the listener) completely loses the ambient, and results in the muddy or boomy bass some complain about on this model.

    As I said in my previous post, you have to do a little experimenting to find the ideal placement and settings. If you're looking for a no-brainer, plug-and-play, just cram it into your media center solution, this is probably not the model for you.
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