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    Default Raining SDA's in NE Ohio..

    First the SRS's. and now some sweet looking 3.1tl's...

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    $20.01:D

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    Holy Shmoly... they have the black plastic thingy also!!!

    What the hell is that thing supposed to do?

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    Do these have a passive radiator or is a powered woofer?Also does anyone know what size the woofer or radiator is?

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    All SDA's use PR's and the size of the one in the 3.1TL's is 12 inches.
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    Thanks f1, thats what i thought,it just looked like those actually had powered woofer by the looks of it.Sda's would be super if they had a powered woofer instead of that do nothing passive radiator:D

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    You're joking, right?
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    Could be...........................:D :D :D :D

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    yea powered subwoofers!!! with sony amps :rolleyes:
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    No SDA's have powered subwoofers. There is purpose behind the use of a PR. A powered subwoofer would be neat, but it would be as loose as the later models that actually HAD one I am sure. Polk and Subwoofer, don't mix, IMO.

    I am not knocking the later series, they sound good when defined, but they are no "subwoofer".
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    Would someone who actually knows PLEASE tell HBomb what that "plastic thingy" is supposed to do, exactly? Heck, I don't even know and I used to have the 11tl's which had it.

    But....., I never took them out and scraped the glue off either....:p

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    Nevermind, found the other thread........

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    [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by F1nut [/i]
    [B]All SDA's use PR's and the size of the one in the 3.1TL's is 12 inches. [/B][/QUOTE] [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by dorokusai [/i]
    [B]No SDA's have powered subwoofers. There is purpose behind the use of a PR. A powered subwoofer would be neat, but it would be as loose as the later models that actually HAD one I am sure. Polk and Subwoofer, don't mix, IMO.

    I am not knocking the later series, they sound good when defined, but they are no "subwoofer". [/B][/QUOTE] Except of course in the SRT's which also employ the same passive SDA technology.

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    No kidding, SRT's have a subwoofer? :rolleyes:

    The two monikers mean two different things.

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    Whatever ...

    The SRT's and SRS's both employ the same passive SDA methodology.

    Just setting the record straight ...

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    No, it's really apples and oranges. One is truly passive , the other controlled though a box. When someone mentions SDA's most, if not all people will know exactly what is being referenced. I stand by my comment that all SDA'a have PR's.
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    They're both passive. I suggest you check with the manufacturer to get the facts.
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    I'd suggest that if you think the SDA's and the SRT's are the same animal, you shouldn't be posting here anymore. As a matter of fact, why do you post here? All you do is get into arguements with just about everyone else on this forum and it's getting really old.
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    Facts? Get your facts straight PW. You always jump on this rare SRT bandwagon like you gave birth to them.

    No SDA had a powered subwoofer, period.

    No SDA SRS had a powered subwoofer, period.

    The SRT however contained a powered subwoofer, WITH an EXTERNAL SDA controller.

    Is that clear enough?

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    If you guys bothered to do the research before you flapped your gums then I wouldn't take exception to the inaccurate comments.

    Read it from the source ...

    From: , Rick
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    Ken,

    I've heard "talk" of passive .vs. active in regards to the technology for SDA before.

    Both speaker systems are set up the same in terms of having line arrays for SDA and Stereo. In reality isn't the effect produced exactly the same way for the SRS's and the SRT's with the ONLY difference being that the electronics to make this happen for the SRS's reside inside the speaker cabinets as opposed to the SRT's where the electronics are contained in a Control Center ?

    Or am I missing something ?

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    Hello Rick,
    I"m going to forward your question on to folks who might be in a better position to give you a definitive answer.
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    Here's the definitive answer, from Matt Polk:

    " Ken -

    Rick is correct. In both cases the SDA signal for the SDA arrays are created using passive components. However, there are three significant differences between the SRS and SRT.

    First, the SRT incorporates an isolation transformer in the controller box that makes the system compatible with any type of amplifier. This is a huge, very efficient toroid that takes up most of the space inside the controller and contributes most of the heft. You will recall that the SRS was not compatible with non-common ground amplifiers and that an external isolation adapter was available which eliminated the amp problem but also reduced stage width slightly.

    The second difference, is that the SRT has adjustable SDA stage width. This is accomplished by varying the bandwidth of the SDA signal again using passive components and switches activated via the remote or the buttons on the controller.

    The third item has nothing to do with SDA and relates to the controls for the active subwoofers. The SRT controller incorporates volume, crossover, phase reverse and continuously adjustable phase for the subwoofers with separate music and movie volume settings which are adjustable from the remote. Location of these controls in an easily accessible controller rather than on the woofers made much greater setup precision possible in addition to much more convenient subwoofer level adjustment to suit the program material. This feature reappeared on the DS systems.

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    Yeah, what they said.

    Is there an interconnect cable on SRT? No.

    Same basic idea, one handled passively in the speaker networks w/ an interconnecting cable (SDA), one handled actively in an external controller similar to Sonic Holography (SRT)

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    There still isn't an SDA powered is it? That's great information that has been distributed prior, got anything else? We aren't talking SRT Sheriff Roscoe P Coltrane.

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    If there is a SRT aficianado, it's PW, for sure. I think that's great, just wish it was in relation to the original post.

    Also, why do you not show up in the "active user" area? Just wondering.

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    I guess I didn't know it existed ...

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    Perhaps you should read before you post.

    "However, there are three significant differences between the SRS and SRT."

    'Nuff Said!!!
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    Oh and by the way, you have to actively turn off your active user feature.:rolleyes:
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    Ahhh ... a preference ... I probably turned it off on first arrival or soon after. I thought Doro was referring to a imbedded chat area. My bad ...

    F1,

    As a clarification I don't really attempt to argue per se ... differing points of view usually bring discussions which imho are good not only for the participants but also for other readers.

    In this hobby there are loads of opinions and few enough certainties.

    As far as Matts comments go, the last is related strictly to the subs, the second states that although the SRT's do have variable width that this is accomplished passively and the first states that the interaural crosstalk cancellation is accomplished using the same methodology with the only real difference being where the components are located that are performing the function.

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    PW - Good data for the mass's is always a bonus, but we are at this point WAY off subject, as the thread really isn't even about SRT's. The original SDA/SRT comments stand.

    HEY POLK! WOULD IT BE OUT OF LINE TO ASK FOR A STICKY DEFINITION OF SDA AND SRT? The theory, function, and application would eliminate all this crap. It is all published, and in advertisments, so is it possible to translate that into the forum?

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    Doro,

    As I know you are aware ...

    SRT is only the name of a particular speaker as is SRS.

    SDA along with being the name of the fore-runners of the SRS's is also the name of a technology invented and employed by Polk in the SDA's, CRS's, SRS's & SRT's.

    [url]http://www.polkaudio.com/home/technology/sda.php?category=3&speaker=82[/url]

    Sorry to take this off topic ... I'll drop it here ...

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    Thanks, I don't need any links internally, but I appreciate it.

    The reason for the request is that their has been more talk and resulting confusion about the models SRT and SDA lately. We are trying to educate the masses right?

    While SDA may be a broad term in Polkese, it's still is a valid request to request definition. The two speakers achieve SDA in two different ways, period.

    I don't mind conversation, please do not excuse yourself simply due to conflicting opinion, or subject matter. I don't think we are trying to save the world here.

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