Originally posted by johnny_utah
Let me ask you one question -
Do you think the goverment should have done more to prevent a terrorist attack against us, like what happened at the WTC?
of course. So now that we went to Iraq to take out a murderous dictator that killed his own people, and that had ties to Al-Quida, and that did have WMD's (which were moved out of the country before the UN was allowed back in - Saddam had 3 months to move them to other countries such as Lybia). Everyone is saying we shouldn't have went in. [Wrong - we went to Iraq to take out saddam because of WMD"s, no links to al queda can be proven, rewards were put up for info on the movement of WMD's. No one has come forward.The people that are hiding them want to sell them for more than any reward money and they don't like us and would like to see them used on us! The are the same idiots who think there will be virgins in heaven
THAT WAS PREVENTATIVE. ["Preventative" of what? Most we go over this again. You have a guy who has had terrorist ties, who killed his own people. You don't think this guy would ever harbor/help Al-Quida? That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
Iraq was not a threat to the US. Colin Powell's UN address was based on lies and misinformation. No WMD's, no nuclear materials, no weapons labs, no rail transport system...etc.At the time he based his statement on what he thought was factual. There is no proof that Iraq never had WMD's is there? There are a ton of places they could be hid. On top of that Saddam broke the UN resolutions that were placed on him. The UN told him what to do, he said no! The UN did not back up what they put into place, that is another reason why it was good to go into Iraq.
Imagine if a prior administration had gone into Afganistan and wanted to declare war because of a potential threat pre-WTC, people would go nuts. No way would that have happened. Now we have a president that has the balls to protect us, and he is doing it. [Yes it could have...especially right after the USS Cole bombingThen why didn't Clinton go to war?
Both Clinton and Bush have the 911 blood on their handsBush was in office some 200 days. Give me a break it is on Clinton if anybody. He had serval things happen during his term and he had a chance to get Bin Laden from the Sudanese but turned it down
It drives me nuts that people don't understand what we are doing by being in Iraq. You don't know what could have happened in 10 years, but I can tell you that with Saddam, Al-Quida having a place to train,[BS] Again, why BS? Can you prove they never helped 1 Al-Quida terrorist? It is believed that some of the hijackers could have been helped by the Iraqi's.
and the evil that is over there, we would not have been safe. [Please expand upon what you are calling evil?Evil: Let's see, the guys that beheaded Nick Berg, The guys that hung, burned, drug through the street americans, The ****e-Cleric in Fallujah, The idiots that think if they kill americans they will be rewarded, need I go on?
] I mean I could talk about this all day if I thought it would help you to see that positives about being at war [There is NOTHING positive about this war?To me the safety I will and my children will have ten years from now is well worth it!!!
]. 3 more quick points though...
First we just can't leave. If we leave with the new Iraqi goverment not being stable, another dictator will take power. He will be influenced by money not what is good for the country, then everything that we have been fighting and dieing for will be lost. Is that what you want? [Agreed]
Second when you and others in the liberal media say we shouldn't be in Iraq it helps to build the propoganda that the militant iraqi's want. [BS, that like telling us not to question why we are at war, just accept it. ?No I am not saying that I am just saying that we should be more supportive of the president. Not be so concerned with these pictures that everyone wants to plaster all over the TV.
BS] do you think plays on their TV's? Anti-Western info. Do you think it helps to have people in our Gov't and society saying we shouldn't be at war? No way. It makes people in Iraq like us less. [BS, the killing of innocent Iraqi citizens is what is making them "like us less".?So you don't think that the anti-western propoganda over there has anything to with it? Give me a break. Those terrorists are killing Iraqi people as well! Oh, wait we don't get to see that on the news, but some of those car bombs - they kill Iraqi's! I bet they are okay wiht that though.
Put yourself in their shoes. Think about it as if your country was occupied by a superpower and they killed your daughters, sons, mothers, fathers... They took away your newspapers. Forced you to live under marshal law. Destroyed your economy. Now you can barely feed your family. Then you found out the war was based on lies and misinformation... ".?I think that is how the idiots of Iraq look at it. I think that the ones that are protesting in the streets, watching TV, listening to the radio, I think they are happy. They are free. It is hard to get to see the good things that are happening in Iraq, but there is good. Talk to some of the soilders that are over their. Ask them about people coming up to them in the streets. Ask them about kids in schools. In addition talk to Joe Liberman who also thinks that good has come out of us being in Iraq, and who thinks we should bhe over there. Listen to sean hannity. They call in all the time talking about it.
Third after seeing/hearing what happened to Nick Berg how can anyone think we shouldn't be in Iraq. Someone getting their head chopped off while the executioner is saying god is good. These idiots think that if they kill us there will be 40 virgins waiting in heaven
[Wrong - 72 virgins] ".?I stand corrected I can't be right about everything.
How could you possible think that we should leave Iraq or not even gone to war? I just don't understand how if someone just took the time to see/hear/read biased info, they wouldn't be for this war. [Correct, the info that the war was based on was "biased". It was lies and misinformation. So, the fact that the info was biased is the wrong reason to be for this war..I disagree - At the time he based his statement on what he thought was factual. There is no proof that Iraq never had WMD's is there? There are a ton of places they could be hid. On top of that Saddam broke the UN resolutions that were placed on him. The UN told him what to do, he said no! The UN did not back up what they put into place, that is another reason why it was good to go into Iraq. It might not have been "THE" reason at the time but it is a good reason now.
Next, you have to ask who benefits most from this war? SAUDI ARABIA. There is a direct connection between the Bush family and the Saudi Royal Family and the bin laden family. I've tried to proof this false but I can't. Two days after 911, 140 Saudi's flew out of this country when the skys were shut down and Americans couldn't fly. Among those 140 were about 30 of the bin laden family. There is solid proof, there are passenger listings. The day after 911, Saudi ambassader Prince Bandar was with Bush at the White House... .Get out your foil hat. The goverment might be able to read your brainwaves. Give me a break. Bush went to war so the saudi arabia would profit?
We need to support our troops and our president because he did the right thing. Period.
[We need to support our troops because it's the right thing to do while they are in harms way. We do not need to support an inept incompetent fool of a president who led us into this unjust war.]
Everyone is intitled to their opinion about the president - yours is just wrong. I am sure though that if Gore were in office of Kerry gets into office everything will eventually be okay. Hopefully your grand kids will be able to see the good of this!
Woodward asked Bush if he consulted his father about going to war and he said, "No, I consulted a higher Father". Now our president sounds like a religious zealot. Then Woodward asked Bush "How do you think history will view your presidency?" Bush's response" We'll all be dead by then."
I am honored that Bush talks about is faith in God. He sounds like a god fearing man not a religious zealot. Just in case you didn't know this the people that founded this country were 10 times more religious than Bush. But back then it was okay to profess your faith.
He is one scary MOFO.