This looks mighty impressive!
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn..._35327,00.html
But rather expensive, 900 dollar MSRP...
The design is rather interneting, they put the surround over the mounting gasket to the actual edge....and this gives it more cone - moves more air...interesting
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10-07-2004 10:30 PM #1
WHO KNEW! Pioneer can make a SUBWOOFER!!!
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10-07-2004 11:09 PM #2
loud as hell, yep, they do that - i have heard one of these. but, jl did the surround thing first on the w7s; now let the games begin... :p
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10-08-2004 09:09 AM #3
Man, that thing looks over built.....
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10-08-2004 11:38 AM #4
With 3 magnets of a combined weight of 320 oz....
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10-08-2004 01:09 PM #5
173 db's!!!!!!
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10-08-2004 01:12 PM #6
Only cost $400 in stores.
http://shopping.yahoo.com/p:Pioneer%...ker:1991247914
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10-08-2004 07:10 PM #7
140 at onlinecarstereo
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10-08-2004 07:33 PM #8
its not on thereOriginally posted by neomagus00
140 at onlinecarstereo
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10-08-2004 08:00 PM #9ronaldGuest
how these compare to W7 13.5???
Looks hardcore!!!
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10-08-2004 08:42 PM #10
Originally posted by ronald
how these compare to W7 13.5???
Looks hardcore!!!
wow... the way he talks about it you'd think that sub was made of crack.... :p
ya don't like jerk off to pictures of the sub or anything do you??? cause that would be downright creepy :pMacLeod: I guess youre lucky Polk has such lax hiring standards.
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10-08-2004 08:46 PM #11
That site has the 2000 for 140...
The one we speak of is the 5000www.Vr3Mods.com
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10-08-2004 11:12 PM #12
yeah, i noticed that just now... my bad for getting anyone's hopes up (or anything else up, in ronald's case)...
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10-08-2004 11:16 PM #13ronaldGuest
your comments are not really necessary. don't make take out my Honda and smoke you real quick.Originally posted by Joelsbass
wow... the way he talks about it you'd think that sub was made of crack.... :p
ya don't like jerk off to pictures of the sub or anything do you??? cause that would be downright creepy :p
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10-08-2004 11:20 PM #14
::sigh::: here we go again...
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10-08-2004 11:28 PM #15ronaldGuest
you guys need to chill.
anyone have this Pioneer or are we just talking bull****??
the specs look good does it really perform??
how do they compare to other woffers like the w7, h2 etc..??
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10-08-2004 11:32 PM #16
Well considering it has won plenty of competitions, I am guessing it is a fairly fine woofer.
Similar design to your subwoofer, surround to the edge of the mounting gasket. Looks as if it can handle PLENTY of power.
Oh, and yeah - it dosnt have JL stamped on it, so it isnt incredibly over-priced and can be had at a decent deal...
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10-08-2004 11:37 PM #17ronaldGuest
don't know why u guys hating on JL W7 well I don't care I had that W7 13.5 because I found it at very good deal. The W7 is around 700-900 price. I bought it for under 600 with a very well built box thats why I bought it. I didn't want to go through hassel to get a woofer and have a box built for another 700 dollar.Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
Well considering it has won plenty of competitions, I am guessing it is a fairly fine woofer.
Similar design to your subwoofer, surround to the edge of the mounting gasket. Looks as if it can handle PLENTY of power.
Oh, and yeah - it dosnt have JL stamped on it, so it isnt incredibly over-priced and can be had at a decent deal...
What more do you need to know?
Can I get this for under 600 with a box like mine??? So shut the **** up talking ****.. common sense people..
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10-08-2004 11:48 PM #18
MSRP $900?Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
Oh, and yeah - it dosnt have JL stamped on it, so it isnt incredibly over-priced
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10-08-2004 11:50 PM #19
the common sense that everyone is talking here is that you can get a better deal on better sound, plain and simple... note cody's post about his brahmas, and to be quite honest, that pair will whoop on the w7 you've got in every way, no 2 ways about it... and like he said only $40 more. need more common sense? You look like an idiot when you're yelling 'shut the **** up and calm down', when you're the only one that's not calm. more? if you've got a honda like you say you do, you need to be in some sort of record book, cause it's a pretty freakin amazing vehicle (can't look up any of the alleged stats, cause that part of the thread was deleted - now why could that be?)...
mac - in this case, $900 might be worth it - i've never been able to compare this sub with anything else, i just know it's crazy loud.It's not good, very fundamentally simply not good. - geolemon
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10-08-2004 11:54 PM #20
Personally I think any sub over $500 is overpriced, I dont care who makes it.
As far as value, I personally think the ID Max is the daddy. A monster sub like that with massive output and great SQ for $400! Gotta like that! ;)polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
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10-08-2004 11:58 PM #21ronaldGuest
yea I will BUMP the 2 brahmas with my **** which will make a box for 5 dollars after I go to MC donald and buy 5 MC chicken sandwhich. Then go to the toilet and make a box out of my ****.Originally posted by neomagus00
the common sense that everyone is talking here is that you can get a better deal on better sound, plain and simple... note cody's post about his brahmas, and to be quite honest, that pair will whoop on the w7 you've got in every way, no 2 ways about it... and like he said only $40 more. need more common sense? You look like an idiot when you're yelling 'shut the **** up and calm down', when you're the only one that's not calm. more? if you've got a honda like you say you do, you need to be in some sort of record book, cause it's a pretty freakin amazing vehicle (can't look up any of the alleged stats, cause that part of the thread was deleted - now why could that be?)...
mac - in this case, $900 might be worth it - i've never been able to compare this sub with anything else, i just know it's crazy loud.
Just quit hating on good subwoofers because you cant afford one or just don't like the price.
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10-09-2004 12:11 AM #22
look, let's try this once more. the point is not that you own a bad speaker - it does indeed perform very well, by all accounts, even cody's. however, the issue at hand is price-to-performance, and the consensus is that there are better drivers for less money out there, even considering the deal you got. and no, you would not BUMP the brahmas, that pair would wreck the w7 in spl and beat it in sq too. and what's this about you ****ting in a box?
just as a note, i could fill a car with w7s if i wanted to, i simply choose not to spend my money in this way.Last edited by neomagus00; 10-09-2004 at 12:15 AM.
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10-09-2004 12:12 AM #23
ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :DOriginally posted by ronald
yea I will BUMP the 2 brahmas with my **** which will make a box for 5 dollars after I go to MC donald and buy 5 MC chicken sandwhich. Then go to the toilet and make a box out of my ****.
What in the name of all that is holy did you just say?
LOL
I hope the moderators dont delete that. That one is priceless. His best work yet!!!
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10-09-2004 12:14 AM #24
Pioneer (to me atleast) is known for setting a high MSRP, most dealers around me have prices 200-300 less than the MSRP.Originally posted by MacLeod
MSRP $900?
They also can be had for about 400 dollars on the net.
I don't like JL Audio, I have heard several of their subwoofers at tweeter and for the price, they just arnt worth it.Last edited by VR3; 10-09-2004 at 12:16 AM.
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10-09-2004 12:16 AM #25
hurry up and put it in your sig then :DOriginally posted by MacLeod
ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D
What in the name of all that is holy did you just say?
LOL
I hope the moderators dont delete that. That one is priceless. His best work yet!!!
LOLOL!It's not good, very fundamentally simply not good. - geolemon
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10-09-2004 12:16 AM #26
Well youre in the right place. Apparantly Im the only one on here that likes JL. Of course you join the rest of the world and there is no shortage of JL fans! LOL :p
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10-09-2004 12:17 AM #27
i can't deny that they sound very good, i just wouldn't spend that kind of money when i could get a better sub for the same or less money... and i ALWAYS go for performance over value... note the lack of subs in my car right now as i choose appropriate models... or look at my home system - rotel and b&w all the way round...
It's not good, very fundamentally simply not good. - geolemon
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10-09-2004 12:19 AM #28
Yes, most brands these days seem to be building themselves off of a name they made in the 80's or before.
JVC, Sony, Pioneer, Bose (the 901), Marantz, Infinity, heck even Polk...etc etc etc
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10-09-2004 12:19 AM #29ronaldGuest
lol. yes I am the king. and you all are my people. :O
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10-09-2004 12:22 AM #30
Eye of the beholder I guess. I think JL's stuff sounds as good as other high end gear costing the same amount. I agree that the W7 is too expensive as is any sub over $500! As much as Id love to have an H2 or W7 or the likes, if I were to ever compete in SPL competitions Id look no further than Image Dynamics. Damn near as good a quality but half the price.
Id love to have one of their IDQ 10's but the damn thing only holds 250 watts. Im looking something in the 400+ range.polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
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