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    Default Parasound 1200 vs Halo A23

    So at 4 ohms the Parasound will dish out 315wpc and the Halo will dish out 200 wpc. So thats 115 wpc loss. Will the Halo make up for it in quality and just wont drive as hard? Would you really be "missing" the 115 watts is what i am getting at. Would be interstesting to hear your thoughts.

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    Thought youd poll the audience? LOL

    I think the halo wouldnt give anything up to the parasound , did i say that right? I think the halo at less power would be better...

    weve had this discussion, and still don't know the answer..
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    I will call Paul (Gen. Mgr.) at Parasound today and get the official answer.
    Personal feeling: John Curl put a lot of time into the Halo Amp.
    Finese over Force (I think).
    I have the A51 and it does pound.
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    Hey, that's great.... you get dealer priceing, LOL

    Thanks
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    2 Channel Rig:

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    I would think the Halo would be better quaility as well. i mean who really drives there SDA's to ear peircing levels :D

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    I know right.... :D
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    You run a tube pre-amp, buy the Classic. The HALO is very nice, but for your application don't worry about it.

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    I already have a parasound 1200II, was wondering as was paul to try the Halo series amps.. or stick with the classic parasound..
    we both run the same tubed pre, just looking for better sound as i move up the food chain.. not that it doesnt sound good now..
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    i was just curious. I'll stick with the good ol Carver for now :)

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    I just talked to Paul (Parasound).
    Whlie the basic board designs are the same (John Curl), there have been many improvements in the quality of the components.
    Bottom line. A little less punch , but much more HiFi.

    Thank You
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    All thanks to Bob Crump :)

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    Good Call...Also good to see we have another Florida Polkie :)

    Cliff,

    So with the less punch you could eaisly find some tubes to make up for the less "punch"

    Just read a thread where EH's where garbarge but i am very much enjoying them..Well actually Cliff is and i am enjoying his Groove Tubes. Need to get those back this weekend bubba

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    roger wilco on the tubes... we need to switch now i know the Eh's sound good.. and you liked the Grooves, not as much as the Eh's though, I know... how did ya like that 6x4 i sent over?

    debating over this deal on the halo A23, decisions
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    Havent tried that 6x4 yet. Wanted to try the Groovies with Jan since thats what i and used to. Will pop it in when i get after a few brewskies.

    Gooddeal = More Gear :)
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    Paul:
    I have an A23.
    Maybe we could get together "1" weekend and listen (using Ethereal cables of course).

    Thank You
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    I'm the one wanting to try the A23 moreso then paul.. far as i understand... from him
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    Where is ormond beach at? Daytona Area?

    You me and Cliff could get together at my pad or work something out. I've got a Tube pre and some signal cable to mix in the demo as well :)


    Would like to demo some high end gear :)

    Pauly
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    Ormond beach just minutes north of Daytona
    My gear is easy to reach and rewire.
    The A23 is just sitting in a box.
    Parasound was kind enough to provide me with the C1, A51 & A23 for testing my cables.
    Also, I can travel as long as my wife has some notice.
    Since I live on the road, she tends to get touchy when I take side trips.
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    B/G Z7 (fronts)
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    B/G ZSub (Subwoofer)
    Celestion C1 (rear)
    Crestron ST1700C
    Crestron CP2
    Infocus X1 (I'm cheap)

    Sun Room
    Pioneer PDP5040
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    Default Just remember,

    The Halo series is graded in 3 different levels with the 3 series being the lowest grade of the Halo line. The 1s are the highest level with the best components used in its construction.

    This doesn't tell you how it compares to older lines, but is relevant when comparing the new stuff.
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    While this is true.
    I has more impact on the Pre/Pro units.
    C1 has a better power supply.
    In the amps it is more about power rating.
    A521/A21 are basicaly the same unit just less of in the A21.
    The JC1 is a whole nother ballpark.
    The A23 by virtue of less output than the A21 has a smaller power supply but basicaly same circuit board.
    Same thing just less of it.
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    B/G Z7 (fronts)
    B/G Z5 (center)
    B/G ZSub (Subwoofer)
    Celestion C1 (rear)
    Crestron ST1700C
    Crestron CP2
    Infocus X1 (I'm cheap)

    Sun Room
    Pioneer PDP5040
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    So brent, can you sell the demo's you have? or get a decent price on one... (A-23 amp) and do you sell the ethereal cables? what are those all about...
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    2 Channel Rig:

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    Polk sda 2B
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    So brent, can you sell the demo's you have? or get a decent price on one...

    Sorry. There is already a line at the office for my old HiFi.
    Right now my "Old" Speakers (Monotor Audio) are spread between 2 people.
    My Integra 8.2 receiver is at a friends house.
    My Niles outdoor are at another friends house.
    I gave my LD player away.
    I gave a Vidikron VPH 50 projector away.
    I gave a Panasonic LCD projector away.
    My Davis DLP is on loan.
    I cant remember who I loaned my PS2 to.
    My Onkyo 727 receiver is at a friends shop.
    Parasound is getting my older Crestron system.
    And I still have a garage full of HiFi (wife is not happy).
    Plus a 32" Toshiba, 20" Mits, 20" Sanyo and somekind of 13".

    I develope the Ethereal cables/products (check out the Cable Swap Program in this froum).
    It is amazing what goes on in Ormond beach.

    BTW: Free gear is GOOD!!!!!

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    Parasound Halo A51 (amp)
    Pioneer 568A (DVD)
    Panamax 5300
    XBOX
    CATV HD PVR (Bright House)
    B/G Z7 (fronts)
    B/G Z5 (center)
    B/G ZSub (Subwoofer)
    Celestion C1 (rear)
    Crestron ST1700C
    Crestron CP2
    Infocus X1 (I'm cheap)

    Sun Room
    Pioneer PDP5040
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    HDMI Rocks!

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    I just replaced an old parasound D/AS1000 (130wpc) with a Halo A21 (250wpc into 8 ohms) and wow what a difference. Just picking the units up will tell you there is a difference, the old parasound is around 30lbs compared to 60+ on the Halo. The Halo has a lot more punch on the low end and has a pretty flat response curve at all listening levels. After having the Halo A21 for a couple of weeks I broke down and got the Halo p3 preamp to replace my Rotel 985BX and again what a difference. The soundstage expanded dramaticly. I am not sure if it was all the preamp or the combination of the preamp and balanced conections with the A21. Bottom line is I am sold on the Halo line.

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    ckpiv:
    I encourage you to sign up for the cable demo program and try my XLR's.
    There were designed with the HALO line in mind.

    Thank You
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    Parasound Halo C1 (processor)
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    Pioneer 568A (DVD)
    Panamax 5300
    XBOX
    CATV HD PVR (Bright House)
    B/G Z7 (fronts)
    B/G Z5 (center)
    B/G ZSub (Subwoofer)
    Celestion C1 (rear)
    Crestron ST1700C
    Crestron CP2
    Infocus X1 (I'm cheap)

    Sun Room
    Pioneer PDP5040
    Pioneer DV59 (HDMI)
    CATV HD PVR (Bright House)
    HDMI Rocks!

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    The Ethereals really are nice, definetely should sign up for a demo!

    And yes, they even match the Halos...physically
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