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    Default The ONLY way to know the DIFFERENCE

    Hello POLKS,
    A challenge for all of US here in this forum, THe only way to know the destinction between Part A to Part B is to test them in much CONTROL environment.

    I believe DOROkusai had initiated a Swap cable program and still a delimma to some of us. Which cable, interconnects, terminators, subs, amps.......etc... We need someone in this forum to unite LOCALLY and get together and in person and form a task force to conclude the several issues/ matters which would be a best/ better piece. We need to have a SOUNDproof system inorder to accomplish these matters................

    Just a thought..............respect to all :D
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    It's been done before many times. Some people just can't be converted while others are just wow'd by the change.

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    Besides, just because it sounds amazing on this "SOUNDproof system" doesn't mean it's going to make a bit of difference on YOUR system. There are an infinate number of variables, so that's why YOU test out different cables on YOUR stuff and see what YOU like, not what the owner of this "SOUNDproof system" thinks on a system where you don't have the same speakers, components, or cables.
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    Who cares. My rigs sound better than everyone else's here, so I'm happy.
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    Controlled environment?
    Task Force?

    It's not a dilemma. It's just wires. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuSsMaN
    Who cares. My rigs sound better than everyone else's here, so I'm happy.
    Here here. And for all the disbelievers, when you find happiness w/ your rigs, you'll know what he means. I do... ;)
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    I don't care...
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    I don't care, and I don't care that you don't care...

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    That hurts...
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    It did sting a little, didn't it.

    Ok, I kinda care. But beware, if you go 'there', I will be forced to no longer care, so don't you dare be so square.
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.

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    I've never been 'there'...
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    Who cares. My rigs sound better than everyone else's here, so I'm happy.





    bastage!

    Have a heart for us folk in the saving mode...in the mean time, crank that kick-ass system and get your groove on!!
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    Frank said it best and its now my personal philosophy on the matter:

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Z
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    Your Ears - Not my problem.
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    I'll strt sndproffing tomorrow...
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    Does your system makes Al Yankovic sound good :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by michael_w
    It's been done before many times. Some people just can't be converted while others are just wow'd by the change.

    when?............my suggestion would still work and besides it would be a good opportunity to network while you explore our common interests.....I'll show you the link tomorrow.........where same concept exist up to this day..........
    as said b4 respect to all

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuSsMaN
    Who cares. My rigs sound better than everyone else's here, so I'm happy.
    Well at very least you think so. And on that note, It's cool to dig your rig. ;)


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    Well, you know, if you don't have Danes......yada yada yada

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuSsMaN
    It did sting a little, didn't it.

    Ok, I kinda care. But beware, if you go 'there', I will be forced to no longer care, so don't you dare be so square.
    ROFL

    Provided a good laugh....
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    Quote Originally Posted by doggie750
    Hello POLKS,
    A challenge for all of US here in this forum, THe only way to know the destinction between Part A to Part B is to test them in much CONTROL environment.

    I believe DOROkusai had initiated a Swap cable program and still a delimma to some of us. Which cable, interconnects, terminators, subs, amps.......etc... We need someone in this forum to unite LOCALLY and get together and in person and form a task force to conclude the several issues/ matters which would be a best/ better piece. We need to have a SOUNDproof system inorder to accomplish these matters................

    Just a thought..............respect to all :D
    System synergy is key and you wont find it in a controlled enviroment. every room is different and people prefer different flavors of presentation. there is no such thing as good,better or best unless that is the way you perceive it in your room with your system. there is no magic bullet when it comes to audio and there is no substitute for auditioning gear in your own system using your own ears. thanks....WCW III
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    Quote Originally Posted by W WALDECKER
    System synergy is key and you wont find it in a controlled enviroment. every room is different and people prefer different flavors of presentation. there is no such thing as good,better or best unless that is the way you perceive it in your room with your system. there is no magic bullet when it comes to audio and there is no substitute for auditioning gear in your own system using your own ears. thanks....WCW III

    NOTE taken, however I believe the destinction between 2 piece still exist. Interconnects, sub, amp, terminators, etc.....and finding the ONE in controlled environment would ELIMINATE biases thus conclude quality sound to your uncontrolled environment.....this is a fact........
    As I said b4, this would be fun! Networking and learning at the same time.
    Check This OUT
    http://www.avforums.com/forums/showt...59890.....SAME CONCEPT..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by doggie750
    finding the ONE in controlled environment would ELIMINATE biases thus conclude quality sound to your uncontrolled environment.....this is a fact........
    As has been previously stated, what is important in audio is synergy. This means that even if cable A is superior in construction and materials than cable B and sounds better than cable B in this 'controlled environment', it may not sound different at all (or even worse!) in your system or in another member's system. Since it's all about synergy and working with your equipment, any kind of test based on a particular line up of equipment would at best provide a very hazy, vague idea of quality, and in most cases probably not even that.
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    Synergy. Other than that I don't care either. It does seem funny however that the cables which have better synergy just happen to be the more expensive ones...
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    Buy some that look cool. My knukonceptz IC's are sexy like the leg lamp in A Christmas Story.

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/show...ht=knukonceptz

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    It's just like everything else in audio. Everyone has different ears and different tastes so naturally they'll like different things. Take B&W speakers for example. Some people think they're overpriced and sound odd while others adore them and strive to get their perfect pair.

    I bought kimber heros and yes I like them and they have made a difference in my system but who's to say they're better than say Signal Cable Analog Two's? It's all personal preference as well as what many have mentioned here, syenergy. What works well with your system depends on your other gear.

    This is like saying what is the best car out there? How many different opinions would there be and think of how many variables come into play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PolkThug
    Buy some that look cool. My knukonceptz IC's are sexy like the leg lamp in A Christmas Story.

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/show...ht=knukonceptz
    Cable factor is out of the question........The reason why suggested this coz the link I pasted in this thread LOOKs FUNNNNnn........getting together and learning.....at the same time......Why not try it........not gonna hurt right?
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    Talking Shhhhhhhhhhhhh

    I rest my case..................
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    Trust your ears! Forget blind tests and all that crap. Listen by yourself and make the final judgement. It's obvious that a lot of audio nuts are insecure and need to do blind tests to feel better.
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