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    My wife and I will be having a house built soon and I plan on having a dedicated listening room. The room will be 12' x 16' and I won't be able to change that but I can determine the ceiling height/type, wall materials, flooring, windows, etc. I'm assuming a vaulted ceiling would not be the best choice but what about ceiling height. I can go 8',9',10' or vaulted. Any input would be appreciated. This will be for 2 channel only. Thanks.

    EDIT: This will be on a second floor.
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    Thats awesome. I am jealous. All I can say is get some custom wiring in for the front mains and run conduits so that if you want to run different wire later, you can do so. Get a 20amp circuit to that room also. Is it going to be for HT, or just getting your 2 channel listen on?

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    According to the prevailing theory:

    room height * 1.6 = width
    room height * 2.33 = length

    My suggestion would be to stay with an 8' ceiling.

    Where will the room be located? The reason I ask is if the room is in the basement, you might want to add sound proofing to the ceiling to prevent sound from traveling up. If it within the main living area, you may want to address sound proofing the side walls, etc. There are various material/construction methods available to isolate your listening environment.

    Are you near any major exterior noise sources (road, airport)? If so, you may want a triple pain glass...

    Personally, I would wire the room for HT use as well. You may change your mind at a later date. I would also suggest two dedicated circuits that do not include other outlets other than at the front of the room. This should be verified before they drywall the interior walls.
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    Dragon - what audio equipment are you going to go with?

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    I would go with 8-10' vaulted...
    My living room is that way, and I like the way it works for sound...

    I could be wrong, but that`s how I would do it..!!

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    Nothing like a dedicated room. You will enjoy. Great news.
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    In my new place, I get the bonus room AND the unfinished walk up attic! I'll be bouncing some ideas off you guys, too. Bonus room will be dedicated listening, attic will be for HT.
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    Thanks for the responses. I am definitely going to go with dedicated circuit breakers and maybe upgraded wiring. I'm thinking about having the outlets in the floors rather than walls.
    My equipment will be a Ming Da 50wpc tube integrated, Jolida JD-100 CDP and Vandersteen 2CE signatures. It works pretty well right now in a 11.5 x 14 x 8 rom but the room has a cut-out corner so it's not rectangular which I think detracts. I know several members have had homes built recently so I'd be interested in what they would change or what they like about their's too.

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    Maybe a way to use an infinite baffle subwoofer?
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    nicht verstehen!

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    If it were me...

    2 30 amp dedicated circuits w/ high grade 10 GA wire, as isolated as possible.
    Screw the conduits, your going to want to show off your nice wire on elevators.
    Address outside noise, minimize windows (bass robbers) thick drapes.
    nice comfy deep pile carpet (also acts as accoustic treatment)
    double layer of 5/8" rock on walls and ceiling
    accoustic treatment ie absorbers and diffusion.
    NO TV's!!!
    Nice comfy chair(s)

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    30 amp is kinda overkill and the 10 guage starts to be a pain to work with... It's hard to find 30amp outlets, so if your gear is really pulling that much current, you've got a fire hazzard. I'd say two 20amps should do you fine and will probably elicit a lot less bitchin' from the electrician... but if you;re gonna go all-out. 30 amp wouldn't hurt.

    Doubling up the sheetrock is a good idea and not as expensive as you'd think (no mud & tape on the inner layer). See if you can get the soundproof sheetrock where you are- haven't used it myself, but it's supossedly even more effective & economical.
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    Some links for ya

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    I'd go for the tallest vaulted ceiling possible - least amount of standing waves.
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    I'd go for the tallest vaulted ceiling possible - least amount of standing waves.
    No kidding? That would definitely be the coolest option. Thanks for the links.
    Appreciate the input so far folks ;)

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    vaulting cealings are a plus. Angled or beveled sides in the room is a benefit as well.. also, will the room be longer than it is wide? That too will be a plus. Something in the center in a circular form to diffuse the sound will also be a great benefit.

    Double pane windows are good (and just for acoustics, I have had tremendous luck with Bella). Just be sure to get some heavy drapes. In a perfect situation, you would have carpeted flooring just in front of the speakers all the way to the back wall - with wooden flooring in the rest of the room. This is so there is not too much reverb where the system is - but still reflects a bit where you are (which is a good thing).

    Aside from strange angles, I am really unaware of wall materials that can help or not.

    Anyways - just idea's...

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    Quote Originally Posted by peersool
    I'd go for the tallest vaulted ceiling possible - least amount of standing waves.
    Not quite true. The reason I mentioned the room dimension ratio above is that it distributes the room modes along the frequency domain. Having similar room dimensions places the modes closer together. Ideally, you want the room modes spread as evenly over the frequency domain as possible. An 8' ceiling generates the closest length and width values to the actual dimensions.

    There are many room mode calculators on the internet. Download some and play with the dimensions.

    Have a look at the AudioAsylum Room acoustics forum...

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