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    Default Rti-8 or Rti-10 Recommendation.

    What would be a better recommendation if I mainly do the following: 50% tv, 25% music, 25% movies? I can't crank up the volume like I'd like to since I live in an apartment. I like the full range sound, so bookshelves are a no-no.

    I will be using it with a SVS PB-10 subwoofer and a Harman Kardon AVR-240 receiver. Thanks!

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    Move!

    Seriously, with a nice pair of bookshelves crossed over with the sub I don't think you're going to notice a difference in your situation. Having said that, there is no subsitute for large radiating surfaces, buy the 10's.
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    If you've got the PB-10 then get the 8's. They'll be a tad easier to power with whatever you have, plus IMO they just sound better than the 10's, fuller more natural mids. This goes especially if you are just using a AVR instead of separates. The pb-10 should fill out the bottom end just fine.
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    Mmm....if you use with 50% TV, 25% music and 25% movies....i recommend the RTi 8 ... and save some bucks....

    If the percents are 50% music, 25% TV and movies, then, you must bought the RTi10 !!!!

    Anyway, try to listen both, compare and decide !!!!! ;)

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    I would suggest with the AVR to purchase the 8's. I'm runnning 8's with a 335 and find it to be quite nice, though I am looking into getting ext amplification.

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    if you're stuck between the two models, seems like to me you have enough money for both. Buy the better speaker, which is the 10.

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    You are pairing the fronts with the PB10 which I assume will be crossed over on the AVR at 80hz, receiving all data below that point. Don't waste money on 10's, go with the 8's with the two 6 1/2" midrange drivers, the 10's only have one. You'll be crossing over to the SVS, so the lowest range of the floorstanders is moot.

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    comparo the duo. regardless of an 80hz xover or not, the 8's sound alot more bright, forward. If that's your bag, then buy those.

    just because a speaker has 2woofers doesn't mean it's going to sound better than one with a single.

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    Get the 10's and don't look back, especially if you like full range sound.
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    many differing opinions. and all valid to boot. my gut tells me youll be fine with the 8 and a sub since you do mostly tv and movie listening (light on the music), but again, this is my opinion. fact is, you should get ears on both. there will be 2 pretty distinct sounds here. yes, the 8's will be more forward, which is preferred by many for movies and TV
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    For what it's worth... I was facing the exact same delima when I started out, and I went the route of the 8's over the 10's. One, when you throw in the sub, the 8's seemed to out-perform on HT. Now granted, I don't listen to much music on my setup, but still, I've never ever felt that I was lacking anything in my setup with the RTi8's.

    I say, take the 8's, save the cash and upgrade the AVR or sub.

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    I just bought RTi8's and like them very much. They're powered by a H/K 635 and I plan to add a SVS PB-10 sub myself. Even by themselves, I have been very impressed with music and H/T use. My wife has even commented hearing more sounds when watching our normal TV shows with the RTi8's! Metallica was playing strong enough the day I got the speakers and it set off my home alarms glass break sensor! lol.
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    I don't see why anyone on here, especially the veterans alike would recommend RTi10's for anyone using a receiver to power those?? FYI, RTi10's are 4 ohm speakers. It states on this site they are 8ohm, but they are not. I know that H/K receiver doesn't even supply enough power in anyway shape or form to power those correctly, in matter of fact ANY receiver with the exception of maybe a flagship one for moderate levels?

    I would without a doubt in my mind get the RTi'8 if I was using a receiver only to power them, not only will it sound better it's also the most sensible speaker IMHO. Again... IMO... I think the 8's have better midrange than the 10's. I don't want to get anyone all BUTT hurt around here, but these are my opinions!:)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeC78
    I don't see why anyone on here, especially the veterans alike would recommend RTi10's for anyone using a receiver to power those?? FYI, RTi10's are 4 ohm speakers. It states on this site they are 8ohm, but they are not. I know that H/K receiver doesn't even supply enough power in anyway shape or form to power those correctly, in matter of fact ANY receiver with the exception of maybe a flagship one for moderate levels?
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    4 ohm speakers? When did this happen? I have the RTi12's and my Onkyo receiver powered them just fine without ever shutting down. This would of surely been the case if they were 4 ohm at the levels I play them. Granted my soundstage was lacking when I cranked up the HT trying to push these speakers along with the other 5. That is why I bought a 7 channel 200watt/ch amp. However, in 2-channel mode they played music extremely well and sounded very full.

    I agree that everyone has a right to voice their opinion on what they think sounds the best. On the other hand, I think we need to be careful not to call the sponsor of this site a Liar or that they would misrepresent their own product without proof just so we can emphasize our opinion of what speaker someone should buy.

    H4ma, if your system is mainly going to be used for HT, you would be happy with either choice. Your sub will definitely fill in where the speakers lack in the low category. However if you wish to be a purist and plan to listen to music in two channel mode as it was recorded, then you may wish to audition both speakers at your house to ensure that you are getting the "Full" range of sound that you desire.

    I would definitely hate for you to purchase something now and have regrets because you compromised. Not that any of us has ever done that before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeC78
    FYI, RTi10's are 4 ohm speakers. It states on this site they are 8ohm, but they are not.
    I don't want to get anyone all BUTT hurt around here, but these are my opinions!:)Mike
    so FMI even though Polk clearly states that the rti10 is an 8ohm speaker, your opinion is that it's a 4ohm speaker?
    Wowzers.. you must have some kickass measuring equipment in your living room Mike. Gadgets that do
    impedence magnitudes, phase degree vs. frequency Hz comparisons and contrasts, cumulative spectral decays, amplitude measurements via decibal loudness, frequency file displays, volt measurements and lastly- the ubiqitious volt data. Not that I have any clue as to what any of that mess is; I'm just assuming that you do. :D

    rock on Mike.
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    Do you guys believe everything you read on the internet and not believe in typos??

    CALL Polk for yourself... the RTi10's and 12's are 4 ohm speakers. I know there is alot of people on this forum besides myself that can chime in here and vouch for me also.

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    Where are you FergusonV???? : ) HELP ME!!

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    hey not saying you're wrong. I just want to know why you think that. FYI and my opinion aren't good enough when you're giving someone advice of what speaker to buy per ohm and power reserve issues.

    Afterall, Polk labels the LSi7 a 4ohm speaker when in reality at least measured by Stereophile, it's a 6ohm speaker. If the 10's and 12's are 4ohm, it wouldn't be the first time they've been wrong about ohm specifications, but at least the lsi7's went through the ringer by a well established hi-fi group, not just a he said/she said game on the telephone.

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    Sorry... I don't have any "proof" that those speakers are 4ohms. I've talked to Polk via telephone and they told me they were 4ohm speakers along with aLOT of other members that I talked to also. But your right... I don't have a million dollar equipment at my home of residence or any ohm meters of any sort to give you any scientific proof. I'm not saying that those speakers would not work with a regualr receiver, but they definetly are not reaching there full potential. You can go into Tweeter and listen to some LSi15's and also the 25's, what do they have them ran off of??? You guessed it, a regular old A/V receiver! Do you think those speakers are powered to even half there potential, definetly NOT.

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    Ohms fluctuate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airplay355
    Ohms fluctuate

    :D Now that's proof!! What else do you want??

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeC78
    Do you guys believe everything you read on the internet and not believe in typos??

    CALL Polk for yourself... the RTi10's and 12's are 4 ohm speakers. I know there is alot of people on this forum besides myself that can chime in here and vouch for me also.
    So Polk made a typo on the website when putting the specs for these speakers? They also made that same typo in the user manual that comes with the speaker? They also made that same typo on the spec sheet that is shipped with the speaker?

    Wait... Crutchfield made that same typo as well. Oh my, that bose loving Amazon.com is trying to fool me with that typo too. Not you too Tweeters??!! When will it stop??!! Son-of-a-%#$#!!!

    I cannot believe how gullible they think we are!

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    I do apologize, Mike. I could not resist. Some person who answers phones at Polk Audio was misinformed and has unintentionally misled you. The RTi line is in fact rated at an 8 ohms impedance.

    It is true however that the measuring of impedence in speaker systems is not an easy task and does vary quite a bit according to the demand placed on the speaker. An 8ohm rated speaker will vary greatly in its resistance range (even reaching 4 and 2 ohms at times). However the NOMINAL impedance is typically assigned to the speaker. Companies are encouraged to design their speakers to perform the majority of the time around this nominal impedance. Of course there is no law saying they have to follow this "encouragment" and thus will vary around this rated impedance as much as necessary to make their speakers sound dynamic and open.

    So to conclude this long-winded nonsense of mine, it really doesn't matter what impedance my speakers are rated at as long as they sound great to me, I have the equipment to utilize them, and they do not make my electronic toys explode.

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    As long as your happy with your 4-8 ohm variable speakers, so am I!! Maybe someone can explain to the person that mislead that person who wrote the manual and wrote up the specs on this site and mislead that person who spoke to me on the phone!??!?!: )

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeC78
    As long as your happy with your 4-8 ohm variable speakers, so am I!! Maybe someone can explain to the person that mislead that person who wrote the manual and wrote up the specs on this site and mislead that person who spoke to me on the phone!??!?!: )
    LOL. Fair enough!

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