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    Default Roger Russell Updates

    Roger has updated his site with info on the M* demo you may have seen at Circuit City.

    http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm#thetruth

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    ooo... speaker wire debate, better grab some popcorn.

    Let's get ready to RUUUMMMMBBBBLLLEEE!!!

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    I need to go to CC...

    For those, like me, that open and link and aren't sure what you're looking for. Scroll down until you see this pic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhantomOG
    ooo... speaker wire debate, better grab some popcorn.

    Let's get ready to RUUUMMMMBBBBLLLEEE!!!
    NO! You can start your own thread for that. :)

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    And then it'll get political... dicussing the merits of the left channel vs. those of the right...
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    Is it really a big suprise that Monster Cable is misleading the masses?

    Roger is a very nice guy to chat with, an absolute wealth of knowledge but we don't agree on everything. I think that his work is important for both sides of the argument. My favorite quote from him... "Hearing is Believing" :D

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    Where'd you bump into Roger?

    Curious thing to me about the demo set up is the coiled wire runs, which I have always thought was a big "no-no".
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    *deleted* cuz someone got their panties in a wad
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    Thanks.
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    I am so sorry Uncle Albert......

    Sorry is the hardest word to say.......

    I'm Sorry so Sorry...........

    Ok glad thats over.

    I agree 100% Tour, any coiled wire creates resistance and a resulting electro-magnetic field. I dont have time to read the article (i will) but I suppose the larger M wire has less resistance so somehow its rigged to sound better. Not sure why I remember this electronics class but it stuck for some reason.

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    Interesting.......most people I know would fall for the M* demonstration w/out even giving the whole idea a 2nd thought. Very Very misleading. I believe firmly in cables and wire making a difference, but the M* display is outright deception. Or at the very least "exaggerated deception"; if it's set-up and run as described.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reeltrouble1
    I am so sorry Uncle Albert......

    Sorry is the hardest word to say.......

    I'm Sorry so Sorry...........

    Ok glad thats over.

    I agree 100% Tour, any coiled wire creates resistance and a resulting electro-magnetic field. I dont have time to read the article (i will) but I suppose the larger M wire has less resistance so somehow its rigged to sound better. Not sure why I remember this electronics class but it stuck for some reason.

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    Yes, my understanding is that the varying mag field recreates, i.e., inducts, a weak signal mimicking the one that generated it. Problem is it's out of sync with the primary music signal which = noise.

    I think a way to further rig the demo would be to wrap the 24 ga around an iron core and the M around a plastic one.
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    It's called an inductor.

    I've seen a similar display with Monsters power conditioners. Anyone remember the acrylic Bose subwoofers that blew the packing peanuts around inside?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RuSsMaN
    Anyone remember the acrylic Bose subwoofers that blew the packing peanuts around inside?
    haha! I used to think that was cool :( I remember the styrofoam BB's on the port. Since you can see the bass waveforms ala styrofoam, it had to be the best! :D

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    LOL... here as well... and the acrylic 901's...
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    I once saw a pair of Pioneer HPM 100's with acrylic cabinets at a stereo show in STL. They were cool.

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