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    Cool Got some BIG mono blocks!

    OMG, I finally went down to the dealer today. If you guys remember, I wanted the ASL "Tulip" at first. I talked to the dealer and he told me the Tulip will not give me the kind of slam/dynamics I'm looking for. Instead he suggested a pair of ASL KMP22-FOX mono blocks. Single ended, 20w/ch(or maybe 22). He told me the clarity and dynamics will blow me away. He said it sounds better than the 300B or 2A3 offerings from ASL.

    Got home only to find out, one channel didn't have sound. Swapped output tubes and found the problem. One output tube was bad and didn't make any sound. I already ordered a pair for replacements which should arrive early on Mon. So no rockin' until Monday:( .

    Anyways, I connected one of them to my Klipsch and the dynamics is out of this world! Clean, fast, effortless. The bass is very powerful. Can't wait until I get both of them running.

    The mono block uses the 6C33 output tube which was designed for radar use in Russian MIG's. The tube is very well made and quite heavy. It is also known as the "three nipple Russian monsters" because of it's ability to drive hard loads, its large size and, of course, the three nipples on top of the tube.

    Here are some pics. These mono's are monsters compared to my ST-70. They weigh in at about 40 lbs each! On the second pic I put the 6C33 beside an EL34(that I'm using in my Dyna). You can really see the size difference.
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    Awesome... amazing looking amps.

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    Sweeeeet!!!
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    awesome tube gear as usual maurice.. what they set ya back for the pair?
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    Congrat, Maurice. You ought to find something better than the AQ2004DT to drive it ;)

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    Sexy.

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    Waaay cool, Maurice!
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    Very nice.

    Gotta love anything that has big nipples on it. Are those tubes the same size as a KT88?
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    BAT likes to use the same Russian tube - but for a LOT more $ (than I assume what you paid). What are the front end drivers? Maybe I can hook my favorite Canadian up......

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    Bringin' home the big bucks eh Maurice? Nice new toys - enjoy em'.

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    Wow..that's awesome!
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    Those are REAL nice Maurice. Congrats.
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    Congrats!! Those look awesome and must sound sweet...

    I regret so much having parted with my sixpacks....as soon as I have the means I will get some big a$$ monoblocks :)
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    Very nice.

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    Very nice indeed ! Congratulations.

    But if you wanted really big monoblocs, these would have fit the build



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    Those are nice looking toys, I can only imagine the cost. Awesome though
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    lol guess that guy isn't much into video....check out his nice TV :)
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    Some people are into audio more than video.

    I don't see the facination with two channel but I do wonder how 5 of those monoblocks would sound in a HT inviroment.
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    I like the adjustable speaker stands, looks like they could be done DIY very cheap and easy!

    Oh! congrats on the upgrade, they look great.
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    Very nice man
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    Thanks guys. I'm really glad I got these amps. The sound is exactly what I've been looking for. Now I understand the need for high powered SET amps. You get the delicacy of the low powered SETs with the slam and dynamics of high powered amps. I've been listening all week and I'm completely blown away. I never knew my Klipsch could dig so deep on bass and have this kind of dynamics.

    That's it. No more push/pull or quasi triode strapping for me now. I'm spoiled. From now on, it will only be Single Ended Triode. Now I understand this whole "magic" thing people talk about with SETs.

    Cliff,
    Man, I pretty much stole these amps. The dealer I went to also sell used gear. My units are used from original owner. They look brand new. It's discontinued now but retailed for close to $3k. I got them for $1300.

    Fred,
    LOL:D. The 2004DT ain't too bad. Don't worry, the GTA should be here soon. Gonna crap my pants again when I hear that combo:).

    Russ,
    I'm totally rockin with the big SET power. Dynamic range seems unlimited. I blasted some metal music the other day and the sound was killer. The first stage is a 6SL7. Drivers are a pair of 6SN7. If you have a quad of vintage 6SN7, I'm interested. The amp had the stock tubes installed. I've replaced them with GE chrome plate 6SL7 and EH 6SN7. NOS SN7's seems quite pricey.

    Sean,
    No big bucks, dude. I pretty much stole these amps:).

    Wardsweb,
    Wow! Those look sweet. I bet they sound amazing. Are those 300B's being used as drivers?

    EarlyB,
    I've never owned a KT88 tube, but I'm sure these 6C33 are bigger. They're actually 2 triode tubes in one with one big plate. Each tube use 2 filaments and they get crazy hot. They're quite different from other output tubes because they're low voltage and high current with low output impedance. I guess that's what makes them sound powerful.
    Here's something I found on the net about the 6C33: "The 6C33-C-B is a low mu dual power triode built originally for the Russian military. Its primary application was (is) as a high perveance low voltage series pass regulator in MIG aircraft. The construction is mechanically rugged to withstand 10G of acceleration and up to 100G of shock - I think not operating in this case. Service life is rated as 1000 hours, but in civilian use as a power amplifier life could be as great as 10K hours. The tube utilizes two separate filaments, and may be operated with one or both simultaneously. One filament operation reduces plate dissipation to 75% of maximum rating."
    Here's a pic to give you an idea of their size.
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    The GT is leaving this weekend, btw - believe it.
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    Looks like the 6C33 is about 1/4" more than the KT88 in diameter and height.
    It is a biiiig toy, LOL.

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    Maurice,

    Awesome. Good on ya. I too am going the SET route (or electronics with the same signature in the whereabouts of)...

    Now if you can get this same deal again, PM me!
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    Russ,
    Damn dude, all these toys are giving me an overload. Thanks for making me feel like a credit card carrying little girl in a GAP store;):D.

    Fred,
    Yeah, they're pretty big. Nothing special about their glow though, just the normal orange glow.

    Sean,
    I thought you gave up the SET route because your speakers aren't sensitive enough? Or are you planning to get a pair of high eff speaks?
    Even if you have to, you'll enjoy the reward. The SET sound is really something else. The imaging is pure insanity. Not those "slightly past the side of the speakers" type imaging. I'm talking wall to wall, and when called for, some ambience or other stuff can sound like it's 100ft to the side and 100ft deep. I've never heard this kind of imaging until now. The purity of vocals and instruments is amazing too.

    I will definitely tell you if I come across the same deal (no joke), that audio shop ships to the US. There is another great deal though. He still has an ASL int. SET amp for $1200 (that's Canadian $). 300B output tubes, but only 8w/ch.

    You can contact them from their website. www.audio-oasis.com Let them know what you're looking for.
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    Beautiful looking (and i'm sure sounding) setup.
    I want to experience tube gear before I die.

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