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    Default North Korea did what!

    With all the problems and threats North Korea has made to the world, they had just did something no one expected...

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060809/.../koreas_floods

    So it seems like south korea has agreed to help the north with flood relief. Do you think this will help the relationship at all between the north and south( and the U.S)?

    And if you were south Korea, would you have given them aid?

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    Hell Yes I would provide aid.... This is phenomenal news. And more importantly, an instance of the needs of the people transcending the "needs" of the leaders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zombie boy 2000
    Hell Yes I would provide aid.... This is phenomenal news. And more importantly, an instance of the needs of the people transcending the "needs" of the leaders.
    +1..

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    BFD. The DPRK will take whatever whenever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zombie boy 2000
    Hell Yes I would provide aid.... This is phenomenal news. And more importantly, an instance of the needs of the people transcending the "needs" of the leaders.
    Agree, also. You take the high road and fight the good fight.

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    They are one people, it is their political leaders that have different ideologies resulting in having divided their country,
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommyboy
    Do you think this will help the relationship at all between the north and south( and the U.S)?
    Not a chance.

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    RT hit the nail on the head

    (excellent analogies as well...)

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    Dont' be so pessimistic Dave. You're hopeful about Iraq (****ies/Sunnies; aren't you?), why not North/South Korea/US relations? Seems to me this is the lesser of two challenges, especially when you have a natural catatastrophe to bring the two Koreas together. Sure, it might not be for the reason we all hope for. But it IS a reason.

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    Anytime you can help the oppressed people through humanitarianism you sow the seeds that can lead to the ending of a dictatorship. It shows the NK people that their "great leader" has failed them, AGAIN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaharvel
    Dont' be so pessimistic Dave. You're hopeful about Iraq (****ies/Sunnies; aren't you?), why not North/South Korea/US relations? Seems to me this is the lesser of two challenges, especially when you have a natural catatastrophe to bring the two Koreas together. Sure, it might not be for the reason we all hope for. But it IS a reason.
    It's not the people I'm worried about it, it's their governments.

    Besides, the answer I gave is what my Magic 8 Ball said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveinaz
    Good Karma applies to ALL things in life.
    then hopefully life treats you well because that harmony 659 karma has saved my button-pressing finger, big time! thanks again.

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    No problem, enjoy.

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    its people helping people. Many people in South Korea still have relatives in North Korea that they haven't seen or talked to in many years.

    Regardless of what impact it may or may not have on the governments, I fail to see how helping people in need is ever a bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markmarc
    It shows the NK people that their "great leader" has failed them, AGAIN.
    Not really... NK will take all aid and repackage it to show that Kim Chong-Il has saved them again. They've done before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demiurge
    It's not the people I'm worried about it, it's their governments.
    I actually feel the opposite. I am not afraid of one tyrant or government body with reasonable people under it's control. I am worried about the people themselves. Venezuela and Cuba are under tyrants, but if they died or were forced from power, the people for the most part are peaceful and want peace.

    On other hand, you have the middle east. Fanatical people under the control of radical religions and tyrants also. Not all of them, but too many to ignore. The difference is that instead of having to kill only the tyrant, we will have to kill them all eventually, before they kill us.
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    I wouldn't give them a fukking crumb. The government will take the food and money and feed it's soldiers. Better they should all starve to death. N Korea is working on the missiles for Iran to use when it gets its nuclear weapons. Iran is pulling all the strings in Lebanon. It turns out that Israel is not fighting Hezbollah in Lebanon, they are fighting the Iranian guard. It's time to kill them all before they have a chance to kill us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by venomclan
    I actually feel the opposite. I am not afraid of one tyrant or government body with reasonable people under it's control. I am worried about the people themselves. Venezuela and Cuba are under tyrants, but if they died or were forced from power, the people for the most part are peaceful and want peace.
    No, actually you feel the same. That was my point....

    The government is the problem, not the people under it. Hence I am worried about the governments actions, not the actions of it's people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by up2youjoe
    I wouldn't give them a fukking crumb. The government will take the food and money and feed it's soldiers. Better they should all starve to death. N Korea is working on the missiles for Iran to use when it gets its nuclear weapons. Iran is pulling all the strings in Lebanon. It turns out that Israel is not fighting Hezbollah in Lebanon, they are fighting the Iranian guard. It's time to kill them all before they have a chance to kill us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demiurge
    No, actually you feel the same. That was my point....

    The government is the problem, not the people under it. Hence I am worried about the governments actions, not the actions of it's people.
    In some cases it is the governments, but in the middle east no. Whether we are fighting Iran, Hezbozo, Al Qaida, Hamas, Al Sadr... who cares? They are all the same with the same goal - our destruction. If Iraq has a new government or not, the people want us dead. Sunni or Shiite, even if they fight each other, they both want us dead. As technology gets better, it will get worse. If a small group of people can get the materials needed for a large attack, what difference does it make what their government believes. Saudi Arabia is supposed to be our ally and the givernment would not attack us, but did that help on 9/11, when thier citizens did thier own thing?

    When we defeated Japan, it was the government we were fighting. They surrendered, it was over. The middle east is just a series of unending hydras. If Osama is killed, there are 1000 more to take his place. Thier chirldren are being raised to do that as we speak. To hate us. Palestinians have a terrorist camp for children, its a fact and I have seen the footage. I regret that that is our war, against a religion with no structure. Until we realize that, we will never win a war on terror. Unless we wipe them all out.
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    Not telling me anything I don't know, man.

    We're not talking about the middle east. We're talking about North Korea. :) Kim Jong Il is the problem in North Korea, not the people. Henceforth...I am not worried about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demiurge

    We're not talking about the middle east. We're talking about North Korea. :) Kim Jong Il is the problem in North Korea, not the people. Henceforth...I am not worried about them.
    I think the main difference in not worrying about the "people" is the difference in religions. Its kind of funny, we're spending so much time and effort in a region of the world where its going to be almost impossible to change people's views, and then you have places like North Korea where I honestly do believe change could happen, and we seem to just ignore it. Oh well, I'm not running the country so I guess I don't know all the details. :p

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demiurge
    Not telling me anything I don't know, man.

    We're not talking about the middle east. We're talking about North Korea. :) Kim Jong Il is the problem in North Korea, not the people. Henceforth...I am not worried about them.
    Just preaching to the quire. N. Korea does not worry me either, besides we already kicked his ass in Team America. Don't make me go into my *******, Dick, Pussy speech again Dem...
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    Quote Originally Posted by venomclan
    Just preaching to the quire. N. Korea does not worry me either, besides we already kicked his ass in Team America. Don't make me go into my *******, Dick, Pussy speech again Dem...
    :p

    I don't know, between Iran and North Korea I don't know what is the bigger threat. North Korea hosted some Iranian leaders at their missle launch last month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demiurge
    Kim Jong Il is the problem in North Korea, not the people. Henceforth...I am not worried about them.
    Bingo...talk about needing a regime change....I think the actual problem is China and its resistance to any type of action agaist that feudal lord....
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhantomOG
    I think the main difference in not worrying about the "people" is the difference in religions. Its kind of funny, we're spending so much time and effort in a region of the world where its going to be almost impossible to change people's views, and then you have places like North Korea where I honestly do believe change could happen, and we seem to just ignore it. Oh well, I'm not running the country so I guess I don't know all the details. :p
    That is the main difference.

    I'm not sure about Islam. They've got some really explicit text in the Koran, that they still stand by, so I don't know how they can remove thesmelves from that. Then again the brainwashing that goes on is unbelievable,

    The Middle East is a festering boil that needs to be dealt with sooner rather than later. If we just let them sit and fester they will only get worse as they get ahold of newer technologies. I think the only thing that is up in the air is the extent to which they will need to be dealt.

    Knowing what was about to happen in the U.S. and Brittain over the next 48 hours is the real scary thing. How do you fight an enemy that doesn't wear a uniform? How do you ignore it? You can't.

    It'll be interesting to see what happens with Israel now. I hope we let them keep going (seems stupid we're telling them whether or not they can defend themselves). They'll likely ignore it anyhow, and that's fine by me.

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    you know, these monkey-fuccs terrorist muslims remind of the the part in the movie 'independence day', the part where the captured alien uses Data from 'star trek' to answer the president's question of "what is it that you want?" and then the prick alien says, "die, die."

    you see, we cannot change their stupid-ass minds. they hate us and want to annihilate us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIZILL
    they hate us and want to annihilate us.
    Funny, that that doesn't sound much different from 'our' own train of thought.

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    i/we are in the right. you don't see us traveling on their planes trying to blow 'em up.

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