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    Default Pioneer Elite DV-45A for $325 vs Yamaha DVD S2500 for $500

    Which would you choose?

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    Neither. Look on ebay for a DV46.
    Display: Sony XBR3 46"
    Pre/Pro: Marantz AV7005
    Amplifiers: Anthem MCA20 / Anthem MCA30
    CD: Pioneer Elite PD59 / Sony XA20ES / Denon 755AE
    DVD: Denon 3930CI
    BD: Pioneer Elite 05FD
    Sat: Bell TV 9241HD
    Game: Sony PS3 60GB
    Media Streamer: WDTV Live Hub
    Power Console: Panamax 5300PM
    Speakers: Paradigm Reference Studio v.3
    Subwoofer: SVS 16-46PC+


    Preamp: Parasound P3
    Amplifier: BAT VK60 Tube
    Sacd: Sony 777ES
    Power Console: Ultralink PGX-500
    Speakers: Paradigm Reference Studio 20 v.5

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    What makes this player better than the othet two?

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    HDMI and Video Upconversion. 46AV has a 108 MHz / 10 bit Video DAC and 45A has a 54 MHz / 10 bit Video DAC.
    Display: Sony XBR3 46"
    Pre/Pro: Marantz AV7005
    Amplifiers: Anthem MCA20 / Anthem MCA30
    CD: Pioneer Elite PD59 / Sony XA20ES / Denon 755AE
    DVD: Denon 3930CI
    BD: Pioneer Elite 05FD
    Sat: Bell TV 9241HD
    Game: Sony PS3 60GB
    Media Streamer: WDTV Live Hub
    Power Console: Panamax 5300PM
    Speakers: Paradigm Reference Studio v.3
    Subwoofer: SVS 16-46PC+


    Preamp: Parasound P3
    Amplifier: BAT VK60 Tube
    Sacd: Sony 777ES
    Power Console: Ultralink PGX-500
    Speakers: Paradigm Reference Studio 20 v.5

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    I'm most concerned about the sound. What are the differences in sound?

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    Actually the 46AV uses a 12bit 108Mhz not 10/54.

    How are u connecting it? analog or digital. If its digital then it will sound identical. If its analog then it depends on your ears.
    Display: Sony XBR3 46"
    Pre/Pro: Marantz AV7005
    Amplifiers: Anthem MCA20 / Anthem MCA30
    CD: Pioneer Elite PD59 / Sony XA20ES / Denon 755AE
    DVD: Denon 3930CI
    BD: Pioneer Elite 05FD
    Sat: Bell TV 9241HD
    Game: Sony PS3 60GB
    Media Streamer: WDTV Live Hub
    Power Console: Panamax 5300PM
    Speakers: Paradigm Reference Studio v.3
    Subwoofer: SVS 16-46PC+


    Preamp: Parasound P3
    Amplifier: BAT VK60 Tube
    Sacd: Sony 777ES
    Power Console: Ultralink PGX-500
    Speakers: Paradigm Reference Studio 20 v.5

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    I was thinking digital for stereo and analog for surround

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    By the way, I can pick the DV46 up for 300 and the 45A for 350.

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    Here is a review on the 46AV.

    http://www.canadahifi.com/review49.php
    Display: Sony XBR3 46"
    Pre/Pro: Marantz AV7005
    Amplifiers: Anthem MCA20 / Anthem MCA30
    CD: Pioneer Elite PD59 / Sony XA20ES / Denon 755AE
    DVD: Denon 3930CI
    BD: Pioneer Elite 05FD
    Sat: Bell TV 9241HD
    Game: Sony PS3 60GB
    Media Streamer: WDTV Live Hub
    Power Console: Panamax 5300PM
    Speakers: Paradigm Reference Studio v.3
    Subwoofer: SVS 16-46PC+


    Preamp: Parasound P3
    Amplifier: BAT VK60 Tube
    Sacd: Sony 777ES
    Power Console: Ultralink PGX-500
    Speakers: Paradigm Reference Studio 20 v.5

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    So it doesn't have a Toslink then?

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    I have not seen the 46AV. Pioneer would be stupid not to have toslink out. It should have both digital outs
    Display: Sony XBR3 46"
    Pre/Pro: Marantz AV7005
    Amplifiers: Anthem MCA20 / Anthem MCA30
    CD: Pioneer Elite PD59 / Sony XA20ES / Denon 755AE
    DVD: Denon 3930CI
    BD: Pioneer Elite 05FD
    Sat: Bell TV 9241HD
    Game: Sony PS3 60GB
    Media Streamer: WDTV Live Hub
    Power Console: Panamax 5300PM
    Speakers: Paradigm Reference Studio v.3
    Subwoofer: SVS 16-46PC+


    Preamp: Parasound P3
    Amplifier: BAT VK60 Tube
    Sacd: Sony 777ES
    Power Console: Ultralink PGX-500
    Speakers: Paradigm Reference Studio 20 v.5

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    Why is the 46 so difficult to find? It's not even on Pioneers website?

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    There is only a press release. Pioneer is very slow at updating their website.

    http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn...080415,00.html
    Display: Sony XBR3 46"
    Pre/Pro: Marantz AV7005
    Amplifiers: Anthem MCA20 / Anthem MCA30
    CD: Pioneer Elite PD59 / Sony XA20ES / Denon 755AE
    DVD: Denon 3930CI
    BD: Pioneer Elite 05FD
    Sat: Bell TV 9241HD
    Game: Sony PS3 60GB
    Media Streamer: WDTV Live Hub
    Power Console: Panamax 5300PM
    Speakers: Paradigm Reference Studio v.3
    Subwoofer: SVS 16-46PC+


    Preamp: Parasound P3
    Amplifier: BAT VK60 Tube
    Sacd: Sony 777ES
    Power Console: Ultralink PGX-500
    Speakers: Paradigm Reference Studio 20 v.5

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    Oh so it's actually newer than the 45A? So I should go with the 46 because it essentially offers more in every way.

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    Of course it is newer. I would just for the HDMI and Video Upconversion. It's also cheaper. I just prefer the look of the 45A to the 46AV.
    Display: Sony XBR3 46"
    Pre/Pro: Marantz AV7005
    Amplifiers: Anthem MCA20 / Anthem MCA30
    CD: Pioneer Elite PD59 / Sony XA20ES / Denon 755AE
    DVD: Denon 3930CI
    BD: Pioneer Elite 05FD
    Sat: Bell TV 9241HD
    Game: Sony PS3 60GB
    Media Streamer: WDTV Live Hub
    Power Console: Panamax 5300PM
    Speakers: Paradigm Reference Studio v.3
    Subwoofer: SVS 16-46PC+


    Preamp: Parasound P3
    Amplifier: BAT VK60 Tube
    Sacd: Sony 777ES
    Power Console: Ultralink PGX-500
    Speakers: Paradigm Reference Studio 20 v.5

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    Thank you so much for helping me out. You have no idea how much of a help you have been. And yes, I think it looks a hell of a lot better. I was concerned thay may have sacrificed something for size. But that doesn't seem to be the case.

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    I definitely like my Yamaha dvdcx1, but if you don't need SACD/DVD-A, how about getting one of the Toshiba HD DVD players?

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    Buy the Pioneer, it has one of the best transports on the market. I have a friend who has a small audio shop, he says people are buying those all the time just for the transports, hooking them up with external DACs and they have a top of the line player. I understand the transport in the Pioneer 45 is the same as their much priceier player. Get the Pioneer and one of those $50 DACs people on this Forum have been raving about and you may have yourself a player that outperforms units costing much more!
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