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    Default Construction Time Again

    Here's the frist pic of the new HT rooms framing.



    Tonight I'm picking up the drywall and sound board from Home Depot. I assembled all the framing with 3.25" nails first then I used 2.5" deck screws to lock everything together.


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    Looking good Ron!

    is there a second 2x4 in the corner to facilitate hanging your sheet rock?
    Are you planning on packing mucho insulation in the walls? And maybe some on the floor would help keep it cozy in winter.

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    Saw your signature, I picked up a copy of the "Time Machine" and watched last night.
    I'd have to give it a "thumbs up" pretty decent.

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    The corners are a bit beefy because of the two walls coming together.

    I will have a single layer of sheetrock on the inside followed by R-13 insulation in the walls followed by 2 layers of sheetrock on the outside. I might use a layer of sound board in place of a layer of sheetrock, just not sure yet. Cost is a major factor as a layer of sheetrock will run about $35, the sound board will run about $115.

    She will be very well insulated, if it gets too cold, a small electric heater will work just fine.


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    I might be reading the question wrong, but I think trubluluc is asking did you frame the corners correctly? the picture is a bad angle, but it does not look correct.
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    Care to elaborate on "correctly"?


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    It is too hard to type how to do it, stop by a house that is being built and you will see how to make a corner. It take 3 studs to make up a "corner" shoot me a fax number and I will send a sketch.
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    Your building a "box" within a two car garage?
    Still looks small and short - building it under the garage door. Man, I would love to have a two car garage so I could get my 16 footer on. :D
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    Default correctly??

    Here are some drawings... scroll down to the 'corners' section.

    It goes to a page with an ad.. click on Skip Ad.
    http://netscape.homestore.com/HomeGa...amingWalls.asp


    If you have only one 2by on the corner, which is what it looks like, your greatest problem is that you have no surface on which to attach the *interior* drywall in the corner. The two pieces are just going to be hanging in mid-air. That is the worst problem. Any questions of support or stability probably aren't crucial given that you aren't holding up the roof of the house or an upstairs. I think the 3 2by corners are most common.... but you're going to have to have at least one more on the corner so you have a surface for the drywall.
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    looking at your picture, where wall runs out to the right, you need another stud. From the corner going to the right you need a stud far enough to the right to make an inside corner of wood for your drywall to nail to. So if your wall from the left is 3.5" wide (standard 2x4), your right going wall will need a stud that has its left edge 3.5" from the corner. These are made easy by placing blocks of wood between two studs nailing it all together and placing it on the end of the wall.

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    No offense at all. I welcome the help and tips.

    I do have 2-2x4's in the corner opposite eachother. But I see I need to add two more or one at minimum according to the drawings. That's easy enough to do. All my braces are screwed in so it will be very easy to remove add the needed 2x4's.

    I would have figured that out when I went to hang the sheetrock. Thanks for catching it and calling me on it. Much easier to do now rather than later.

    I does look small, but it is bigger than the current Green Room. The front ceiling where the TV will go is just under 7' and the rear is 8', so even though it looks low, there is plenty of room.

    I would have liked to go wider, but I did not want my wife to park a 25k Toyota Seinna outside. Living by the beach, salt air does wonders to paint. I, of course, drive a company SUV so it can sit outside forever.


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    You might want to consider 'green' 'wet rock' like is used in bathrooms, at least on the wall facing outside. Surely you will get some rain on the wall/ground from time to time. I don't know how 'air tight' you plan to make the room, you may want to add some pass-through vents either on the ceiling, or one of the walls. I don't know if mold is an issue in CA, but it can ruin a house in Texas that doesn't breath well.....

    Maybe even a metal 'kick plate' running the length of the 'van' side.

    Looks great Ron, keep us updated....
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    Russ, on the common wall with the garage I am going to put up an additional layer of tar paper and the green board just because it shares a common wall with the outside.

    Mold is not really an issue, but I will add a couple of vents, good call. I'll just make some covers that can be closed during HT use (for sound control) and then opened up otherwise.


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    All I want to say is good for you Ron-P I'm so jealous you get to build your own dedicated home theater. These guys will help you
    all the way, if you keep em posted. I'll be watching so I know what to do if I ever get the chance. Good Luck !!!
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    Are you still planning on building a sub into the floor under the seats??
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    Default Speaking of Floor subs

    Speaking of floor subs - here is one of my favorate HT's.
    Check out the consturction pictures of the ceiling and seating subs. Insane man!!!!!
    100" wide Runco Home Theater
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    The rear deck will be built to house a tempest 15" driver. When I am ready for it, it will make for a very easy install.


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    i would have made a slanted celing just a bit togive it deapth and ron a tip of advice put the celing dryall up first then put up the top piece of the wall drywall next snug to the celing this will suport the celing drywall and caues less nail pops also it is easyer to hide gaps at the floor with base bord
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    I hear ya on hanging the ceiling first.

    I thought about sloping the ceiling, but I wanted as much height thoughout the room as possible and with half of the room under the garage door, that end would have been too low. I'm trying to get as much space out of it as possible and if I were to slope the ceiling, I would have lost space.

    As for the double drywall idea, here is what I was told over at AVS

    The two layers of drywall should be placed on the interior of the theater to maintain bass response in the room. A single layer of gypsum has a higher absorption coefficient in the lower frequencies than 2 layers of gyp.
    Anyone have thoughts on this? Sound reasonable?


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    Ron, this is an interesting project that I would like to do someday.

    Quick Q, did you do any calcs on your room that would predict room reflections prior to establishing your final room dims? There are sites that get into this sort of detail and was just wondering if you went down this path?

    If I recall, off the cuff, 1130Ft/(Dim Ft) gives the freq response of that dim from your listening position??? I think. Good memory just short over here and perhaps some1 can jump in if I'm way off base.
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    No calcs, that's just a bit over-kill for me. I just wanted to build the room as big as I could and then I'll take it from there. I had quite a few reflection problems to over come in The Green Room and did so quite nicely.

    This new room will be 100% black inside. Black carpet, black felt on the walls and such, it will be set up very close to what I have now.

    Just did a Home Depot run at lunch and thanks to a scanner error all my rolls of R-13 insulation came up at half price. Can't beat that. Picked up, what I hope, is the last of the 2x4's. Last night I came home with 24 sheets of 1/2" sheetrock and all my electrical boxes.

    Tonight, finish up the framing, cut out for the A/C unit and hopefully start getting some insulation up.


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    Default Room Dims vrs Freq Response .xls sheet

    Ron, I saw this in stereophile web. its an .xls sheet that computes your room resonances. If you have time... fill it out and repost so we can see the expected.

    Just thought it would be kinda fun. A little engineering compared to perception.

    Since Polk does not accept .xls as attachments I nested the workbook into word.

    I hope it works!

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    HBomb, here is all I get...

    Since Polk Web does not except .xls attachments I have tried to nest the workbook into this word doc.


    All is looking good. The framing is complete, the exterior drywall is up, insulation is about 80% complete and electrical is about 50% complete. Front deck is bulit for TV and components. I'll get some updated pic up tomorrow.


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    Ron, you can't see the word document?

    I downloaded it directly, not a link....
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    I get the same as RonP...
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    Sheeeeat! Ok, who can help me out there???? I don't have anymore tricks.

    I inserted an .xls workbook as an object into a word .doc so the Polk server would accept it. Polk server does not accept .xls as a valid download so I'm at a loss.

    The spreadsheet is really cool and easy to use. Just put in your room dims and it computes the freq response to your listening position.

    all else fails here is the link.

    http://www.guidetohometheater.com/shownews.cgi?388
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    Well, in just about 5 hours the Green Room will be dead. At about 7pm tonight the dedicated 20 amp line gets shut down and removed.

    Bought a second 20 amp breaker today and another spool of 100' 12-2 Romex. I will be running two dedicated 20 amp lines into the new room for the gear, plus a single 15 amp line for all the lighting.

    A candle light vigil will be held at 6:55pm PST at which time I will flip the breaker.


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    Now for a moment of silence for our dearly departed.......................................... ........................

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    Because I didn't see any reports on CNN live from Toontown showing a huge green mushroom cloud with half the neighborhood taken out!

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    Still here and all is good, the new room now has two hot dedicated 20 amp lines. Tonight I'll install the 15 amp line. Nothing is more exciting than flipping a breaker with a 2' wood stick.


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