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    Default I need an education in CDP

    Ok guys I need to know.

    #1 what I am looking for in a good cdp.
    #2 what makes a good cdp and a not so good cdp
    #3 what are the better names
    #4 If I go tube cdp, do I need tubes in the other elctronics to hear the difference?

    thanks for any info.

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    #1 sound
    #2 sound, sound
    #3 What is your price range? Sony, Rega, Jolida and many more
    #4 no
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    I like solid build. I have never seen a cheap CD player built solid. It's a good indicator.

    Tons of brands; Cambridge, Rotel, Music Hall, Shanling, Cary, Musical Fidelity, Jolida, Sony, Rega, yada, yada, yada....

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveinaz View Post
    I like solid build. I have never seen a cheap CD player built solid. It's a good indicator.

    Tons of brands; Cambridge, Rotel, Music Hall, Shanling, Cary, Musical Fidelity, Jolida, Sony, Rega, yada, yada, yada....
    NAD is always a good choice.
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    Bryston will be introducing their first player the BCD1 very soon.http://www.bryston.ca/pdfs/07/BCD-1CD.pdf.

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    what about the pioneer elite models?
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    How much are you looking to spend and what do you have now?

    You could always forgo adding a new CDP and go with a new DAC and use the current unit as a transport.

    As for the Elites I have no experience with the cd players but have had a 47ai for about 4 years now. It was there top of the line DVD player when I purchased it and it is a great unit. Sound quality wise it is good but was beaten by my Jolida, and also by a Squeezebox with a cheap NOS DAC.

    There is also the squeezebox route which I know at least a few members here embrace the main one of the top of my head being Joey_V.

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    my current nakamichi cannot use a DAC cause I have no digital outputs. It only 1 set of analog outputs :) This thing is a tank and I love it. the model number is CDP-2A. it a single disc with the green lights and readers on the front. I got it for 30 bucks and its in MINT condition.

    I'm using the Pioneer Elite A35-R integrated amp. So I figured I'd follow suit with a matching cdp. Hooked into the mirage sm-1 vintage speakers I got.

    This is for the budget 2 channel rig I put together that sound amazing and surprised the hell outta me.

    120 for the pioneer, 30 for the nak, 25 for my yamaha phono and 30 for the mirages you cant go wrong :)


    I found the nak on ebay

    http://cgi.ebay.ca/Vintage-Nakamichi...QQcmdZViewItem

    is this a good player?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBRICK View Post
    my current nakamichi cannot use a DAC cause I have no digital outputs. It only 1 set of analog outputs :) This thing is a tank and I love it. the model number is CDP-2A. it a single disc with the green lights and readers on the front. I got it for 30 bucks and its in MINT condition.

    I'm using the Pioneer Elite A35-R integrated amp. So I figured I'd follow suit with a matching cdp. Hooked into the mirage sm-1 vintage speakers I got.

    This is for the budget 2 channel rig I put together that sound amazing and surprised the hell outta me.

    120 for the pioneer, 30 for the nak, 25 for my yamaha phono and 30 for the mirages you cant go wrong :)


    I found the nak on ebay

    http://cgi.ebay.ca/Vintage-Nakamichi...QQcmdZViewItem

    is this a good player?
    Never heard it but Steve listed some great choices. What is your budget?
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    Careful with a tube CDP with a solid state preamp. I had two really good tube CDPs in my rig and my Spectral pre hated both of them. It just was bad synergy. The only way to find out is to hooked it up to your rig and listen for a good week.

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    my budget right now I dont want to spend more than 150 bucks. I want to keep this a budget system
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    Oppo DV 970HD; for $150 you can't miss with this.

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    I have a pioneer elite pd-65. It's a great sounding cd player that's built like a tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ESAVINON View Post
    I have a pioneer elite pd-65. It's a great sounding cd player that's built like a tank.


    I was jsut reading about that player it looks wild
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    Quote Originally Posted by steveinaz View Post
    Tons of brands; Cambridge, Rotel, Music Hall, Shanling, Cary, Musical Fidelity, Jolida, Sony, Rega, yada, yada, yada....

    my favorite CDP is the yada, yada, yada one. :p

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    Keep the Nakamichi if you like it. My ex had a Nakamichi OMS-2??? I think? It was a very smooth sounding player, but also very fussy about scratches/imperfections. Terrible error-correction circuit.

    IMO, the best "econo-CDP's" are the less expensive Sony's, hands down. I could put a $129 Sony in my system tommorrow, and be fine with it.
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    I'm thnking about the sony in the fm
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBRICK View Post
    I'm thnking about the sony in the fm
    Have you looked at the Oppo reviews? That sounds like a strong choice for your budget?
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    Sony's have real good rythm/pace. They make the music enjoyable. The down side is that the cheaper models can sound a little brittle in the high's at loud volumes. They're great players.

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    I love my Pioneer Elite PD-59 player. I also have other ones but my Pio Elite still sounds the best and I love the stable platter mechanism.
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    Keep the Nak I'd bet most $150 players will sound worse and many much worse. I've owned many Nak cdp's (still have one) and for their day they were outstanding and built like brick sh*thouses. Sure the technology is better today but not in a budget cdp. Use the Nak until it dies. I wish my OMS 4A still worked to use in my second system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveinaz View Post
    Keep the Nakamichi if you like it. My ex had a Nakamichi OMS-2??? I think? It was a very smooth sounding player, but also very fussy about scratches/imperfections. Terrible error-correction circuit.
    Sounds like it may have an issue. All the Naks I sold and owned from that era had great error correction. They used the latest Sony derived optics and e/c back then. Although many older players the Nak's included don't like cdr's and will either show an error in the display or skip like a mofo.

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    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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