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    Default I'll be damned...power cords really do make a difference!

    Today I got a PS Audio Prelude power cord to replace my existing stock power cable on my integrated amp (specifically, the cord from my integrated to my power conditioner).

    I've been critically listening for hours, and I'm certain there's a clear improvement. Music is more resolving, low registers are fuller, and there's more overall tonal enjoyment. I'm sold!

    Well, I guess this means I'll be upgrading all my power cords...great. This f*&cking hobby is ridiculous!
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    Don't rush to upgrade them all. Take your time to listen for a while and then make a decision.
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    I hear ya Darla, but moderation and self-restraint have never really been my strong suits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cstpeter View Post
    I hear ya Darla, but moderation and self-restraint have never really been my strong suits.
    Mine either:D If you really like the difference the power cord makes take your time and research others as well. I had very good luck with Harmonic Technology and Shunyata cords. I have PS Audio as well (Prelude) but I used the HTs for the Amp and Pre and preferred them over the PS Audios.

    I used the Shunyata for the power conditioners and my music source and the Preludes on my DVD player and subs. If I had the funds I would have used HT or Shunyata on all but that is just an example of the trial and error with different cords and how they can differ.
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    aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh gggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I want some new goodies. One day when I grow up I'll get um
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    Shhhhhhhh.....There might be an anti-audio hi-fi insurgent lurking around.

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    Congrats on the new PC. I love what a PC can bring to a system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amulford View Post
    It is true, Phil. You just don't wanna believe it...
    Yo Ant, I'm just trying to get the juices flowing. These types of topics get both camps all fired up. As for me, I'm a believer. I have Signal & LAT power cords & they're all keepers. Which camp is going to fire the first shot? Let the war begin!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pearsall001 View Post


    As for me, I'm a believer.
    Im a believer as well ,I find my system sounds much more dynamic and musical when I use a PC on each component.:D

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    Quote Originally Posted by GV#27 View Post
    Im a believer as well ,I find my system sounds much more dynamic and musical when I use a PC on each component.:D
    See, I told ya. It's starting already!!! I love it!
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    Why would you have to buy a PC? When you buy a piece of equipment it comes with one that is perfectly adequate. Only an idiot would spend extra money on something that they don't need nor makes any difference at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnite Mick View Post
    Why would you have to buy a PC? When you buy a piece of equipment it comes with one that is perfectly adequate. Only an idiot would spend extra money on something that they don't need nor makes any difference at all.

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    Right; and more so when you consider the crappy wire from the outlet back to the panel, the thin wire that's inside the fuse, etc.
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    I found the best upgrade so far for a PC is to plug it in.
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    Make it stop!
    I am still trying to figure out my IC/Cable synergy thing. The hell with power cords. :(
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    Who really cares if they actually make a difference :p It's the coolness factor that matters Those big honk'in power cords snaking out from behind the HT/2 ch rig into the power conditioner makes a profound impact on the non-audio enthusiast. Especially the PS Audio ones with the diamond back type pattern on them. It just reeks of "this is serious sh!t that you just can't comprehend". Now if someone could make power cables that glow a dim blue color, and market the glowing blue as using up the random electrons and rf energy that mucks up your sound, I'd be all over that sh!t. How bodaciously cool would a 6 ft blue glowing power cable be :D

    And by the way, they do make a difference ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by pearsall001 View Post
    See, I told ya. It's starting already!!! I love it!
    Get your popcorn and be ready to watch the show.:D

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyb View Post
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    Shame on all you non-believers. We need to revoke your audiophile cards.
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    Yes, audiophile cards to be revoked!

    Cstpeter's observations are spot on with mine when I upgraded the PC to my Rega Apollo. I would like to add one more thing, though. The volume was increased, especially in the midrange/ vocal areas without touching the volume knob or making any other adjustments on the rig.

    It also made a more than slight improvement on the Polk Audio PSW1000 when the PC was upgraded. Wasn't really pleased with the sub when I got it, but when the PC was upgraded, all of a sudden I was pleased. Bass tightened up quite a bit and the transition from the sub and RTi10's improved. I noticed after the PC upgrade that I was listening to music a notch or three louder than before [even after raising the volume on the sub itself] because the bass wasn't as "boomy", it was simply more accurate allowing me to turn the volume up louder without getting that "boom".

    The cord I choose was an Analysis Plus copper. The silver was auditioned, but I couldn't justify a $400 smacker difference in price [compared to the copper]. There was an improvement with the silver, but not enough of an improvement over the copper for me to justify that kind of money right now.

    In conclusion, yes. They do make a difference. Maybe not in everyone's rig, but IMO if you have a high enough resolution system......it would be worth your while to try / audition / swap PC's and find out which cords make the best improvement in different areas of your rig, as it is my belief that one type or brand of PC will not be "the best" for everything in one's rig.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnite Mick View Post
    Why would you have to buy a PC? When you buy a piece of equipment it comes with one that is perfectly adequate. Only an idiot would spend extra money on something that they don't need nor makes any difference at all.
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    Good grief. That's just an argument that people use to rationalize the fact that they're too cheap to spring for one
    Women are born with tits too but that doesn't mean that they (the tits) are perfectly adequate. Just ask a few. Sheesh, they might provide a baby some nourishment but they may not make your eyes glaze over. :D
    It's exactly the same with a PC.
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    Sheesh, they might provide a baby some nourishment but they may not make your eyes glaze over.
    It's exactly the same with a PC.
    Spot on! It is exactly same. They are just for looks, and don't perform any better.:p

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    Quote Originally Posted by treitz3 View Post
    The volume was increased, especially in the midrange/ vocal areas without touching the volume knob or making any other adjustments on the rig.

    Early B. had the same improvement/change when upgrading the power cord on his Oppo player. The increase in volume. That really sparked a savage debate because the digital one and zeros naysayers really came out of the woodwork.

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    I stand by what I said and I will not waiver, H.I..
    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

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    By the way, why does it have to be one way or another? Some folks may hear better than others. Some folks have a ****ty system that improvements like a PC won't make a damn bit of difference. Some folks are just plain stubborn.

    Why the debate? Can we not just give, or offer observations and be prepared to offer more information about certain equipment or parameters when called upon? That would make it a hell of alot easier for those folks who are wanting to learn to make up there own mind.

    People that try to push subjective "facts" really need to get a grip on life.

    OK, I'm done.;)
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    Sorry about the triple post, but I just had a thought. EarlyB had the same observations I had, right? I don't know him from adam, never talked to him, never PM'd him, never read about him saying this before. Yet, we still had the same observations.

    This just proves to me that he's got a good set of ears and he has excellent observations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnite Mick View Post
    Why would you have to buy a PC? When you buy a piece of equipment it comes with one that is perfectly adequate. Only an idiot would spend extra money on something that they don't need nor makes any difference at all.

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    I am a Idiot who payed Signal cable a modest sum of money for four custom made 6' power cables . its a cheap and worthwhile tweak in my book
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    Um treitz3, I'm getting the feeling you took what I wrote as a dig or a shot. I use a Signal Cable Magic power cord on my preamp outboard power supply, Musical Concepts power cord upgrades on my Adcom 565s. Great power cords, if nothing else, lowers the noise floor.
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