Free Shipping on All Orders 1-866-764-1801

Vist our Online Store
+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 30 of 30
  1. #1

    Member Sales Rating: (10)

    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Magnolia, NJ
    Posts
    4,052

    Default Do I really want to add a sub?

    That's the big question I have. I've read a lot about the benefits of adding a quality sub to a two channel system. Apparently if pays off regardless of how well your speakers perform bass wise. The description's I hear are that it increases the soundstage in all directions, projects a better separation of instruments within the soundstage & just gives you much more of a feeling of being there. The only drawback is the integration, it has to be flawless to pull it off. Set up properly you shouldn't even know you have a sub running except in the musical experience. Here's a list of subs that I'm checking into. Feel free to comment on your experiences & recommendations.

    Polk DSW Pro 500 - REL T1 or R 305 - ACI Force XL - Velodyne DD-10 - Totem Storm - Revel Concerta B12 - Vandersteen 2Wq - Sunfire True Subwoofer EQ.
    Last edited by pearsall001; 01-16-2008 at 03:10 PM.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "
    Panny 65" 3D Plasma
    Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A3010 AVR
    D>SONIC M2-600M mono's / mains
    Rotel RMB-1095 / 5 channel amp
    Rotel RMB-1075 / 5 channel amp
    TEAC UD - 501 DAC
    Oppo BDP-93
    SONOS System
    KEF Q900 / mains
    KEF Q600 / center
    KEF Q800 / surrounds
    KEF Q100 / rear surr.
    Def Tech ProMonitor 1000 / front & rear presence
    Velodyne SPL-1200R subs / dual pair
    DSPeaker Anti-Mode 8033 sub EQ
    Equitech Balanced Power Son of Q 1.5R
    Extensive room treatments

  2. #2

    Member Sales Rating: (2)

    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Kansas
    Posts
    7,522

    Default

    I'd want one for the <40Hz stuff. Like you said, it all depends on how you can integrate it. I know that freeing up some of the bass duties can help some midrange speakers.

  3. #3

    Member Sales Rating: (19)

    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Posts
    8,170

    Default

    Only one way to find out....


    Tell us about your placement options. Can the sub be placed between the speakers?

    Have you considered replacing the SVS and going with dual subs for both HT and music?
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."

  4. #4

    Member Sales Rating: (17)

    Join Date
    Jul 2001
    Location
    Northern Colorado
    Posts
    12,054

    Default

    The sub should match the speed of the main speakers. Not a problem unless you have high efficiency drivers, ribbons, eletrostatics or horns. If you do then look for a quick subwoofer. Subs are fun, unnecesary and require a user who can control themselves. :)
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D

  5. #5

    Member Sales Rating: (19)

    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Posts
    8,170

    Default

    Pear - you'd be better off upgrading to the AAD 2003's or some other kind of full range speaker, thus foregoing the need for a sub(s).

    In addition to the sub(s), you'll need an external crossover and amplifier (if subs are passive, and they should be), cables, power cord, and perhaps some sort of equalization system, all of which add cost and extra junk in the signal path.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."

  6. #6
    Banned
    Member Sales Rating: (14)

    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Newark, Delaware
    Posts
    21,321

    Default

    Phil, what is wrong with the SVS you have?

    I agree with EB, you'd be better of with a full ranges speaker like the floorstanding AADs we saw/heard at Quest for Sound.
    Last edited by hearingimpared; 01-16-2008 at 05:26 PM.

  7. #7

    Member Sales Rating: (31)

    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Long Island
    Posts
    14,733

    Default

    How about hooking up a pair of subs in parallel to your current speakers?

    I'm thinking about going to some smaller mains with a pair of custom built subs. They have identical efficiencies which will make things easier. But I'll have to run test tones or room eq wizard to determine the crossover point and then build them to blend in with the mains.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche

  8. #8

    Member Sales Rating: (10)

    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Magnolia, NJ
    Posts
    4,052

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by hearingimpared View Post
    Phil, what is wrong with the SVS you have?

    I agree with EB, you'd be better of with a full ranges speaker like the floorstanding AADs we saw/heard at Quest for Sound.
    Joe & EB,
    The SVS in great for HT but falls short for two channel as far as I'm concerned.

    Right now I'm enjoying the AAD 2001's too much to think about letting them go. Especially now that they're under Krell power! Those puppies are singing up a storm!

    I'm just kicking the sub idea around & was looking for feedback. Probably won't happen but you never know.

    But I were to give it a shot, which sub would you recommend.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "
    Panny 65" 3D Plasma
    Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A3010 AVR
    D>SONIC M2-600M mono's / mains
    Rotel RMB-1095 / 5 channel amp
    Rotel RMB-1075 / 5 channel amp
    TEAC UD - 501 DAC
    Oppo BDP-93
    SONOS System
    KEF Q900 / mains
    KEF Q600 / center
    KEF Q800 / surrounds
    KEF Q100 / rear surr.
    Def Tech ProMonitor 1000 / front & rear presence
    Velodyne SPL-1200R subs / dual pair
    DSPeaker Anti-Mode 8033 sub EQ
    Equitech Balanced Power Son of Q 1.5R
    Extensive room treatments

  9. #9

    Member Sales Rating: (27)

    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    NC
    Posts
    20,951

    Default

    VMPS kicks butt man ---

    I don't like Brian.. but man are his subs accurate
    www.Vr3Mods.com ///// www.Version3Audio.com

    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro

  10. #10

    Member Sales Rating: (0)

    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    614

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by pearsall001 View Post
    Joe & EB,
    The SVS in great for HT but falls short for two channel as far as I'm concerned.

    Right now I'm enjoying the AAD 2001's too much to think about letting them go. Especially now that they're under Krell power! Those puppies are singing up a storm!

    I'm just kicking the sub idea around & was looking for feedback. Probably won't happen but you never know.

    But I were to give it a shot, which sub would you recommend.
    I have not heard the Plus series so I cannot directly comment on them. On the other hand, I will say that the SVS PC-Ultra series integrates extremely well with the brilliant Dynaudio Confidence C1 monitors. I also use an external active crossover.

    There is someone on the net who has made it his mission to review subs. I believe his name is ‘Criagsub’ on some of the forums. A couple of months ago when I last found his review list, the JL Audio Fathom f113 and the SVS PB13-Ultra were at the top. IIRC, the PB13-Ultra edged out the Fathom f113 in the two channel listening category as well as scoring higher overall.

    The lowest octave contains the ambient information cues which help to recreate the acoustical space of the recording. Having this information reproduced makes the recording more realistic. Regardless of the L+R speakers I have, I will always have some means of reproducing the lowest octave of information.

    If you decide to pursue this, I believe I saved some articles on where the crossover frequency should be. Let me know if you are interested and I will have a look and forward any documents I find. I think I may have also posted some on the forum. I can also try to describe how I integrate the phase between the sub and monitor as I have not seen this mentioned anywhere.

    If you are happy with your current system and AAD 2001's, I would highly recommend making your system capable of reproducing the full audio spectrum. Think of a sub as a speaker dedicated to reproducing a specific range of frequencies. As with any speaker, some are better than others. Move past the misconception that its bad to have a sub in a two channel system.
    All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed and third, it is accepted as self evident.
    Arthur Schopenhauer

  11. #11

    Member Sales Rating: (26)

    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    The tube lair in Charlotte, NC
    Posts
    11,298

    Default

    If you are in no hurry, Polk has a new sub coming out soon that you might be interested in. It's called the DSWmicropro4000. Evaluations to come.

    The descriptive words that you explain are accurate indeed, but only with proper integration. Admittedly, this can be a difficult task. However, when done the end result is very pleasing to the ear. Yes, getting a full range speaker does help but I like to tweak the spectrum of frequencies to the room and genre of music and having a sub helps to do just this.

    I don't know what the Tyler Acoustic Talos 7U's that I have go down to, but with my amp, it sounds like they do not require a sub, yet I find myself continually keeping the sub in the mix. Not very loud, mind you, but definitely in the mix [I don't like boom at the bottom]. Having the Velodyne SMS-1 helps me with the integration between the sub and the mains and is infinitely adjustable to achieve what you would want to do to the spectrum of frequencies.

    I have heard very few speakers that couldn't use the benefits of a properly integrated sub
    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

    "The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction". - Kenneth Swauger

  12. #12
    GV#27
    Guest

    Default

    You might want to add Bag End to your list of choices.For music they are fabulous with very tight detailed bass.http://ultimateavmag.com/subwoofers/1104bagend/

  13. #13

    Member Sales Rating: (0)

    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    461

    Default

    I think you're going to need one with very quick attack and low overhang to integrate with a Phil Jones built speaker.

  14. #14

    Member Sales Rating: (0)

    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Argyle (Dallas)
    Posts
    1,445

    Default

    YES> Go SVS
    My Main Gear
    Mitsu HC5000 (Proj.)
    Marantz SR8001 (AVR)
    Sunfire TGA7200 (AMP)
    Marantz DV7001 (SACD)
    Samsung BD-P1500 Blu-Ray
    LSi 15's (Front)
    LSiC (Center)
    LSiFx (Surrounds)
    DUAL SVS 20-39 CS Plus
    (Passive Subs)
    Marantz IS201 I-Pod Dock[/SIZE]
    Panamax M5300EX
    Carada Criterion 106" Brightwhite Screen
    Sunfire TGA 5200 & (4) B&W 605's in the party room

  15. #15

    Member Sales Rating: (58)

    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    6 Underground
    Posts
    25,306

    Default

    No, don't do it, terrible idea.

  16. #16

    Member Sales Rating: (10)

    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Magnolia, NJ
    Posts
    4,052

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by dorokusai View Post
    No, don't do it, terrible idea.
    Not even with the new Polk subs. Surely you jest.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "
    Panny 65" 3D Plasma
    Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A3010 AVR
    D>SONIC M2-600M mono's / mains
    Rotel RMB-1095 / 5 channel amp
    Rotel RMB-1075 / 5 channel amp
    TEAC UD - 501 DAC
    Oppo BDP-93
    SONOS System
    KEF Q900 / mains
    KEF Q600 / center
    KEF Q800 / surrounds
    KEF Q100 / rear surr.
    Def Tech ProMonitor 1000 / front & rear presence
    Velodyne SPL-1200R subs / dual pair
    DSPeaker Anti-Mode 8033 sub EQ
    Equitech Balanced Power Son of Q 1.5R
    Extensive room treatments

  17. #17

    Member Sales Rating: (58)

    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    6 Underground
    Posts
    25,306

    Default

    Nah, just trying to be different.

  18. #18

    Member Sales Rating: (10)

    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Magnolia, NJ
    Posts
    4,052

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Music Joe View Post
    I think you're going to need one with very quick attack and low overhang to integrate with a Phil Jones built speaker.
    I take it that you know a little about Phil Jones & his incredible speaker designs. Those Soliloquy 6.5's that you have are another one of Phil's masterpieces. Any suggestions on what would integrate with my AAD 2001's.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "
    Panny 65" 3D Plasma
    Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A3010 AVR
    D>SONIC M2-600M mono's / mains
    Rotel RMB-1095 / 5 channel amp
    Rotel RMB-1075 / 5 channel amp
    TEAC UD - 501 DAC
    Oppo BDP-93
    SONOS System
    KEF Q900 / mains
    KEF Q600 / center
    KEF Q800 / surrounds
    KEF Q100 / rear surr.
    Def Tech ProMonitor 1000 / front & rear presence
    Velodyne SPL-1200R subs / dual pair
    DSPeaker Anti-Mode 8033 sub EQ
    Equitech Balanced Power Son of Q 1.5R
    Extensive room treatments

  19. #19

    Member Sales Rating: (10)

    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Magnolia, NJ
    Posts
    4,052

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by dorokusai View Post
    Nah, just trying to be different.
    Just how good are those new Polk DSW Pro subs. Nothing but the truth now.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "
    Panny 65" 3D Plasma
    Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A3010 AVR
    D>SONIC M2-600M mono's / mains
    Rotel RMB-1095 / 5 channel amp
    Rotel RMB-1075 / 5 channel amp
    TEAC UD - 501 DAC
    Oppo BDP-93
    SONOS System
    KEF Q900 / mains
    KEF Q600 / center
    KEF Q800 / surrounds
    KEF Q100 / rear surr.
    Def Tech ProMonitor 1000 / front & rear presence
    Velodyne SPL-1200R subs / dual pair
    DSPeaker Anti-Mode 8033 sub EQ
    Equitech Balanced Power Son of Q 1.5R
    Extensive room treatments

  20. #20
    Stronzo
    Member Sales Rating: (7)

    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    Over Yonder
    Posts
    7,883

    Default

    I'll say this much; if you're gunna do it - do it right and get two subs to run Stereo left/right. It'll be worth it...

  21. #21

    Member Sales Rating: (58)

    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    6 Underground
    Posts
    25,306

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by pearsall001 View Post
    Just how good are those new Polk DSW Pro subs. Nothing but the truth now.
    They haven't made a subwoofer like the DSW series in a decade, and it's about time.

  22. #22

    Member Sales Rating: (8)

    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    Tucson, AZ
    Posts
    2,238

    Default

    You gotta do it, man! As stated, you need to take your time with a 1/3 octave bass CD that goes to 20hz or below. When I did my setup with the single SVS it probably took 3-4 (or more?) hours doing a sweep, plotting in Excel, making a change, doing a sweep, plotting it, comparing it, etc. It's well worth the effort. :D

    Unfortunately with my room response a sub is absolutely necessary or else I have a 10+ dB canyon.

    Wes
    Link: http://polkarmy.com/forums

    Panasonic TH-42PHD8UK 42" HDTV | Polk Audio SDA-SRS's (w/RDO's & Vampire Posts) + SVS PC+ 25-31 | AudioQuest Granite (mids) + BWA Silver (highs) | Cary Audio CAD-200 | Signal Cable Silver Resolution XLR's | Wyred 4 Sound STP/SE Pre | Signal Cable Silver Resolution XLR's | Cambridge Audio azur 840C--Wadia 170i + iPod jammed w/ lossless audio--Oppo 970 | Pure|AV PF31d

  23. #23

    Member Sales Rating: (0)

    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    461

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by pearsall001 View Post
    I take it that you know a little about Phil Jones & his incredible speaker designs. Those Soliloquy 6.5's that you have are another one of Phil's masterpieces. Any suggestions on what would integrate with my AAD 2001's.
    Comparing notes and rambling on and on...as I tend to. So forgive me in advance :o
    I think the AAD's are a cut above anything in the Soliloquy line, as put together by Mr. Berman. I think Phil had a bigger hand in AAD production.
    Reading a review, I'm reminded how Phil Jones increased output ability with very low coloration. A 5" metal matrix woofer in a lead lined cabinet that'll do 32hz in a 14x20 room! Just amazing. A solid step in the direction of those $12,500 AAD 7001i monitors.
    Phil, a bass player himself, designs speakers that deliver a great in room construct of that instrument, and it does a great piano which ain't easy.
    I do love my 6.5's, they're efficiency, although not as advertised, is a strong suite. The added rigidity lowered coloration and increased the jump(?)boogie. They've always been focused stable imagers and reproduce the nooks,crannys,texture, have low volume musicality and now it hangs together at high volume(to me)as well.
    The poly 6 inchers in the 6.5's appear like they are molded or machined to be thinner closer to the surround. I think mine are now at an elbow where its pointless w/o a better driver. Those AAD's of yours w/ metal ceramic matrix woofer and waveguide aluminum tweeter and absolutely knuckle-buster cabinets are a more refined next level over Soliloquy.

    My rookie subwoofer hypothosis...with full response from a pair of point source sized units means you probably won't want to mess with what they do already. I too am kicking around the idea of subwoofer. HT soundtrack effect envy?

    Important to me is a sub that leaves the mains alone and puts nothing in their signal path. Agree?
    No bloat or overblown unless I add it. 1 or 2, Big or small? Choices...2 smaller units near the mains but then there's all the cords and wires. Twice the headache? And they may not work well there.
    One of those Velodyne SMS-1 controllers seems a must? I haven't heard what it can do but, logically it seems a needed tool.

    I'm seeing these great reviews over on AVS about all these new internet only (big&ugly) monster-subs in well braced cabinets with class D plate amps and said by many to be musical. I notice they all have pretty limited adjustments. But prices are low enough to consider the SMS dsp thingy.
    The DD18 I did hear was very impressive for music...so big woofer with class D power can jump or boogie...impressive price too :(
    I've read the phrase 'fast bass' is a misnomer so whatever that sound of attack and no bloaty overhang is...I think it's what we would clearly notice it if we lost it or messed it up.

    Is there a non-gigantic high-powered decent looking sub that IS musical and has parametric,variable phase,30hz cut-off,high level inputs.
    This guy at another forum seems to be providing a nice service and I've found the thread an interesting if laboured read. Not absolute but could provide aid to winnow the field.

    hobbyist subwoofer ranking post

    More ((THUNK)) to the slab bass, like a '68 camero hitting a tree near you're driveway :D

  24. #24

    Member Sales Rating: (6)

    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Arizona
    Posts
    16,228

    Default

    If you are really fussy about tight controlled bass, it's very difficult. The big problem is, you are a slave to the listening room---it's fine if it works to your advantage, but if it doesn't it can be tough to get the sound you're looking for.

    I tried an SVS 29-31PC+ (I think?) I just couldn't get what I was looking for out of 2-channel. But I'm sure my room at the time, and the furniture played a role. My "curves" actually looked really good, even the guys at SVS were impressed, but I felt the bass was a bit muddy. I think my set-up was too cramped. The house I have now would probably work much better; the livingroom is very deep as it is actually 3 rooms in length. The kitchen/dining room/livingroom are all in one huge space.
    Last edited by steveinaz; 01-17-2008 at 05:40 PM.

    Source: Squeezebox Touch/CIA Power Supply
    DAC: Benchmark DAC/PRE
    Linestage: Placette RVC Passive
    Power Amp: Parasound HCA-1500A
    Speakers: Harbeth Compact 7ES-3 Monitor
    Subwoofer: SVS PB12-NSD

  25. #25

    Member Sales Rating: (26)

    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    The tube lair in Charlotte, NC
    Posts
    11,298

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by pearsall001 View Post
    Just how good are those new Polk DSW Pro subs. Nothing but the truth now.
    I am in possession of one and trust me, I will be honest. This sub is unique compared to others I have seen and has a built in mic system to tame the acoustics to the rooms properties. Beautiful looking sub, gotta give it that. Hooking it up as we speak, but no further comment will be made for approximately eight more days. ;)
    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

    "The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction". - Kenneth Swauger

  26. #26

    Member Sales Rating: (19)

    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Posts
    8,170

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Music Joe View Post
    I think the AAD's are a cut above anything in the Soliloquy line, as put together by Mr. Berman. I think Phil had a bigger hand in AAD production.
    I've had very limited experience with both brands (Soliloquy 5.3 and AAD 2002). AAD exaggerates its build quality with eloquent descriptions. For instance, they claim the cabinets are lead lined, but when I opened up the AAD, there were a couple of lead patches, just enough to say it has lead in it. I will say, though, that the bass from the AAD was very impressive and not an exaggeration at all.

    Of course, I'm only guessing, but I'd be willing to bet that the Soliloquy 6.5 and the AAD 2003 floorstanders would sound very similar. One thing Phil Jones can certainly do -- that's extract a whole bunch of bass out of 6" drivers.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."

  27. #27
    Old Polk
    Member Sales Rating: (10)

    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    The Sunshine State
    Posts
    4,005

    Default

    I use a single passive sub (Revel Sub15) in the right corner of the soundstage and a sub amp/xover (Revel LE-1) with my Revel Ultima Gems in a space that is impossibly demanding. The listening room is 18x34, open half of its right flank, with a ceiling that slopes from 10' to 20'. It sounds spectacular and no one who has heard the system has a clue there's a sub in the mix (or where the sub is located for that matter.)

    The genesis of this system was Polk RTA-12C's with a Polk PSW-650 that I threw together for ****s-n-grins one weekend. I was completely shocked, after the array of speakers and gear that had cycled through this space, what had been lacking: a balanced presentation across the audible range.

    I encourage you to experiment, set aside the perceived need for two subs, and discover what might be awaiting. Have fun!
    Be-Bop-A-Lula, Baby What I Say

  28. #28

    Member Sales Rating: (10)

    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Magnolia, NJ
    Posts
    4,052

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMDPicker View Post
    I use a single passive sub (Revel Sub15) in the right corner of the soundstage and a sub amp/xover (Revel LE-1) with my Revel Ultima Gems in a space that is impossibly demanding. The listening room is 18x34, open half of its right flank, with a ceiling that slopes from 10' to 20'. It sounds spectacular and no one who has heard the system has a clue there's a sub in the mix (or where the sub is located for that matter.)

    The genesis of this system was Polk RTA-12C's with a Polk PSW-650 that I threw together for ****s-n-grins one weekend. I was completely shocked, after the array of speakers and gear that had cycled through this space, what had been lacking: a balanced presentation across the audible range.

    I encourage you to experiment, set aside the perceived need for two subs, and discover what might be awaiting. Have fun!
    Speaking of the devil. I stopped in a HT showroom today & inquired about subs. He doesn't stock much gear because he is strictly a custom installer. He has a small setup just to show people his quality of work.

    His highest recommendaton was for Revel subs for both HT & two channel. He couldn't say enough good things about them & he said he can get me any sub of my choice. And that's from all manuf. He wasn't pushing anything on his display floor...because he really doesn't have one. I'll be checking into them, that's for sure.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "
    Panny 65" 3D Plasma
    Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A3010 AVR
    D>SONIC M2-600M mono's / mains
    Rotel RMB-1095 / 5 channel amp
    Rotel RMB-1075 / 5 channel amp
    TEAC UD - 501 DAC
    Oppo BDP-93
    SONOS System
    KEF Q900 / mains
    KEF Q600 / center
    KEF Q800 / surrounds
    KEF Q100 / rear surr.
    Def Tech ProMonitor 1000 / front & rear presence
    Velodyne SPL-1200R subs / dual pair
    DSPeaker Anti-Mode 8033 sub EQ
    Equitech Balanced Power Son of Q 1.5R
    Extensive room treatments

  29. #29

    Member Sales Rating: (0)

    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Argyle (Dallas)
    Posts
    1,445

    Default

    I agree with zero. Not just one sub, two. My passive SVS 20-39's are bomb. Not a space save by any means however.

  30. #30

    Member Sales Rating: (0)

    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Dallas
    Posts
    931

    Default

    I would definitely recommend the sunfire subs. To me, I have not experienced anything comparable to it. I have two sub setup and the sunfire signature that I have has dual 13 inches, and it is much smaller in size compared to other manufactures 12 inch and some 10 subs. The reason I have two, well, the sunfire goes very very low even at low volumes on top of that will definitely feel the vibrations! But I just would not recommend the sunfire's for music though, it is awesome for movies. The polk subs blend very well on my experience with them while listening to music.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

     

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts