bi-wiring/bi-amping a denon 3808ci avr

[magellings]

Hi all,

I purchased a denon 3808ci and have rti10 fronts. It does not say in the manual the 3808ci supports bi-wiring...can I still do it? In the denon 4308ci manual, it does show how to setup a speaker for bi-wiring with a diagram, it does not show a diagram to do it with the 3808ci. To bi-wire the 4308ci the manual says to run one cable from the surround backs and one from the front l/r terminal.The 4308 has a special amp assign selection of bi-wire in which you can tell it you have your fronts bi-wired.

It also says that you do it the same way for bi-amping in both the 4308ci and 3808ci manuals, but again the 3808ci manual does not include a diagram for bi-wiring and does not have the amp assign setting of bi-wire like the 4308ci does. Both avrs do have a amp assign setting of bi-amp.

I'd like to at least bi-amp the 3808ci, but it doesn't say in either manual which cable goes to which speaker terminals. Does the surround back cable go to the top or bottom terminals on the rti10? And based on that, does the front l/r cables go to the opposite terminals?

Thanks

[NotaSuv]

This is for the Denon 3808CI Read last line......

I have found goggle or a on site search is the best way too go for simple questions...now for opinions thats a whole nutter can of worms, as for everyone that says yes...theres one to say no ;)

Connections:


* 1080p-compatible HDMI digital video switching (4 in, 1 out)


* analog-to-HDMI video upconversion (up to 1080p output via HDMI) with Faroudja DCDi™ video processing and scaling


* HDMI version 1.3


* component video switching (3 in, 2 out)


* component video conversion (composite to S-video, or composite and S-video to component)


* digital inputs: 4 optical (including 1 front-panel), 3 coaxial


* digital outputs: 2 optical


* 7 audio/video inputs, including:


o 1 front-panel input with composite and S-video


o 6 rear-panel inputs with composite and S-video


* 2 audio-only inputs (including phono)


* 7.1-channel analog audio preamp input


* 7.1-channel analog audio preamp output


* front and rear USB ports for audio playback from USB flash drives, hard disk drives, and portable USB music players


* Ethernet port for music streaming from a PC network, and control via a PC


* Denon Link jack (3rd edition)


* RS-232C port for automated control systems


* 1 set of main speaker outputs


* back surround speaker channels re-assignable for bi-amping front left and right speakers

[obieone]

I'm going to try bi-amping this weekend w/ my Denon 1905. I 'plan' on A ch. out to the sub(PSW303), then to LF binding posts, then zone 2/ surr. back to HF posts.
Right now, I've got it wired the 'Polk way', but sometimes the high's are harsh.
Hopefully, this will fix it.

[wizzy]

Watch out .. I know you know this but for the sake of just in case, make sure you remove those jumpers on the speakers so you don't fry your amp.

[tonyb]

I would probably look at the source componant or get warmer sounding cables before bi-amping off a receiver.Never been a fan of that.That harsh sound you hear could also be distortion,and that means your taxing that receiver.

[obieone]

Well, my little tweak fest is over. Different sounding, slightly better, but not the WOW I was looking for to quantify an amp(s) purchase. So I'm still on the fence.

[NotaSuv]

Well, my little tweak fest is over. Different sounding, slightly better, but not the WOW I was looking for to quantify an amp(s) purchase. So I'm still on the fence.

But wouldn't biamping off a separate amp and not the reciever produce better results, and still use the reciever as a pre...this is the route I am looking at for my LS90's instead of bi amping off my 3806....

[obieone]

That's the problem w/ my rig-I like my spkrs,(Monitor 60) but didn't pay a lot for them, so I'm (still) having an internal confict about spending $600+ for $240 speakers.
I heard what they COULD sound like on youtube, but the rig in question had some better components- CC + sub, along with Marantz monoblocks?
What I was attempting was to use the subs amp on LF posts to see if they did anything.
And no, they didn't do much. So the question STILL remains, can I get anything more out of these speakers, or do I upgrade- AGAIN!