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    Default bi-amp or not to bi-amp

    ok i'm wondering if it is possilbe to bi-amp my front speakers and not lose my 7.1.
    currently i have rm50's for the fronts. i want to have them bi-amp'ed when listening in 2ch stereo mode, and not bi-amp'ed when using the 7.1 for movies. unless the bi-amp'ing won' effect the movie surround.

    that and is an amp a bad idea, coming off my pioneer elite 81txv, or should i look into an actual amp?

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    Why would you want to? The only thing you would gain is that your bass section would have additional power equal to what your tweeter would have been using. In otherwords, why go through all the hassle to get MAYBE 1W more power in the low end...

    The only reason you would want to bi-amp is to use different tonal characteristics for the different sections. For example, I use SS Adcoms for my bass panels, Counterpoint Hybrid tube/ss for my mids, and some tube mono blocks for my tweeters. All because the amps have their own strengths and weaknesses.

    Also, to do biamping "correctly", you should do your best to move the crossover, or at least filter the signal, in front of the amp and not after.

    Personally, the best improvement you could make is putting a seprate amp to the front mains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdhdiggs View Post
    Why would you want to? The only thing you would gain is that your bass section would have additional power equal to what your tweeter would have been using. In otherwords, why go through all the hassle to get MAYBE 1W more power in the low end...

    The only reason you would want to bi-amp is to use different tonal characteristics for the different sections. For example, I use SS Adcoms for my bass panels, Counterpoint Hybrid tube/ss for my mids, and some tube mono blocks for my tweeters. All because the amps have their own strengths and weaknesses.

    Also, to do biamping "correctly", you should do your best to move the crossover, or at least filter the signal, in front of the amp and not after.

    Personally, the best improvement you could make is putting a seprate amp to the front mains.

    1w are you sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELSock View Post
    I want to have them bi-amp'ed when listening in 2ch stereo mode, and not bi-amp'ed when using the 7.1 for movies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skiguy1981 View Post
    1w are you sure
    No, I was just making that up... ;)

    Look through parts express, look at the maximum wattage numbers for the tweeters then look at the ratings for the woofers. This should tell you where the power goes...

    The easiest way to explain it is that as you go up in frequency, the less power you need to keep the same volume level. Example: If it takes 1W to generate an 89db signal at 500Hz, it takes 1/2W to get 89db at 1Khz, 1/4 at 2khz, 1/8 at 4Khz, etc....

    Most listening is done below 1W total power anyway unless you really like it loud. The exceptions would be very dynamic or bass heavy material.
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    Those speakers are pretty easy to drive.Your Pioneer has the balls to power them to their capabilities.Save the dough and maybe upgrade the front speakers when you can.Thats your best bet for improved sound.

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    dont bi amp, but do replace your jumpers with some thicker speaker wires...
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