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    Default PSW111 Not working with Onkyo TX-SR604

    I recently bought a brand new PSW111 Powered Subwoofer to go with an almost finished 7.1 setup. I bought a 6ft monster subwoofer cable and plugged to the back of my Onkyo TX-SR604 receiver just to find that there is no sound coming off from it. I checked the settings on the receiver and the settings say that the subwoofer option set to yes. I am practically lost on what else to check. If anybody is an expert on the onkyo setups I would really appreciate any help.

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    Samsung 56 DLP 1080p
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    I am almost done setting up everything. Just waiting for sometime to do the in-ceiling setups but I already have the wire on my attic.

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    Well I would need to verify that the sub works, then figure out why the LFE isn't working. So with the system off move the Sub connection to LFE to another output such as center, left, or right. If the sub works there then it must be a setting in the receiver.


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    I see that Onk model doesn't have pre outputs, so my above should work with the tape out also for test proposes.

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    Re-run your Audyssey2EQ setup with the subwoofer connected and adjusted to mid level....if you ran that setup before and you didnt have a subwoofer connected, your L/C/R might still be setup as Fullband ( Onkyos wording for Large )and you wont hear much of anything from your sub.

    Where as the Onkyo 605 had a way around that they called double bass...you could have the L/C/R set for Fullband and have the double bass on and the sub would get the low freq effects as well...hence " Double Bass ".....but your 604 doesnt have that capability .

    Page 38 to 42 in your manual shows all this in great detail. Good luck.


    Manually set your L/C/R to 80Hz and sub to YES if the calibration is fubar :) ( Onkyo clumps the L and the R together and calls them both " Front " fyi )
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    Thanks for your suggestions:

    OK. This is what I did. I got frustrated after working with it for almost 4 hours and found a way to reset my onkyo receiver to factory defaults. This method made the subwoofer work sound but it is very low even when I higher the volume on the subwoofer to MAX. Does not like sound like a normal woofer.
    I do not have the Audyssey2EQ mic so I cannot run the setup.

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    ^ Try turning on Double Bass setting in your Onkyo Menu. I had to do that with my 503, and it's just about perfect. The sub may not be sensitive enough to really do much without the boosted signal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by concealer404 View Post
    ^ Try turning on Double Bass setting in your Onkyo Menu. I had to do that with my 503, and it's just about perfect. The sub may not be sensitive enough to really do much without the boosted signal.
    I looked at his 604 manual and there is no mention of the double bass feature....I used to have a 605 and Onkyo proudly mentions the double bass feature in that manual....but nothing for the 604.



    Are you turning up the volume for the subwoofer PRE output in the Onkyo's setup ? Does that change the volume of the sub without touching the actual volume on the subwoofer itself ? Check that.....

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    My bad.... i was typing that slowly between work, and i think we went all around each other. :(
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    Have you tried a different subwoofer cable? I just had a Monster sub cable fail on me. $30.00 pos.

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    I am going after work to buy a Different SUB cable. I returned the Monster Cable. It cost me $70.00

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    I'll suggest getting something inexpensive for now just to check. If you have one lying around or something you can disconnect just to test, do that. If it turns out that this is the problem, I recommend BJC LC-1. Screw Monster Cable. This is the cable I bought to replace mine that crapped out. A 6 footer will cost you 19.00+shipping. It's very good quality and will likely surpass the expensive MC you bought. In any case, return the Monster Cable anyway, if possible. Hyped up, over priced, slick packaged, mediocre cables at best. Here's the link below.

    http://bluejeanscable.com/store/subwoofer/index.htm

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    sammy...
    If you haven't already done so, be sure to set your fronts to small, (then choose a crossover - 80Hz a would be a good place to start.
    In the Setup Menu: You'll find this under Speaker Setup > Speaker Configuration

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    OK I got a new cable from Best Buy. I looked at my receiver and did not find any setup option for Double bass so I took Xandra's option. I changed all my speakers to 80hz crossover and my subwoofer to 150mhz. I can notice a little improvement but nothing to what I expected. I previously owned a complete onkyo surround and it sounded 100% ouder than this polk sub woofer.

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    Well, at this point I can think of 2 things. Test the sub per disneyjoe's suggestion in post #3. If it responds, then you'll know it's not an internal problem with the PSW111. From here you can try using the speaker level connections from the receiver to the sub. See installation option 2, page 8 in the manual if you need reference.

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    Also, did you try what shadowofnight mentioned about turning the volume up for the sub in the receiver set up? See pages 67-71 in the manual from the pdf link he provided.
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    One last option I can think of:
    Does the 604 have a "Tone" button on front?, If so, you can also use that to add more bass.

    I previously owned a complete onkyo surround and it sounded 100% ouder
    Not surprised at all to hear that, most low-end systems use bass to make up for lack of tonality, detail etc. No insult to Onk combo system (which is reputed to be particularly good) It's just one of the ways they make them affordable.

    That said:
    - It's still possible something is wrong with your settings, the Onk or the sub. It's a real shame you don't have the Onk's mic, as audysses can do wonders (tho not necessarily result in booming bass)

    Any chance you can borrow a friends sub, or test yours on someone elses receiver? That'd be the quickest way to narrow the possibilities.

    LASTLY: What someone wants out of bass is strictly personal. For myself, I want a sub to blend so well with my fronts that I don't even know that it's there. Many on this forum really want the walls to rattle. If that's what you want it's possible the PSW111 isn't your best bet (I've never heard the PSW111 but it's possible that it just leans to more the musical than the loud )

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    Do you know where I could get an audysses mic? I looked on ebay but the one listed is only for denon recievers. Do I need a specific one?
    I am willing to buy one before I return the Sub Woofer,

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    Sammy,

    I would agree that the Mic thing would work for ya 100%, but you should be able to get things working manually also close to 100% as possible. So without the mic, have you determine if the sub woofer, cable, or the receiver is the problem to many variables. You need to eliminate some as in my post #3, then see what you need to do first.


    Good luck...

    BTW turn the sub all the way down before you start playing music or anything as it will be very loud if it does work and it's getting a good signal.

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    are you listening in stereo or surround mode??? some Onkyos disable the sub output in stereo modes (such as direct or pure audio)...

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