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    Default Week 5 in the NFL, not real eventful, but could have been

    First off, the Cowboys. What the hell was that? The Bengals are the most defeated team in the entire NFL and they are there for a reason. Despite Chad's best efforts to "kiss the star" and whatever else one would call his lackluster performance that doesn't seem to measure up to the hype, the Bengals have racked up 5 losses so far and not a single win. But yeah, we all know the Begals suck and it's not because of stupid mistakes like the Cowboys make. They play fundamentally good football. It's technically all there. I don't know why it isn't clicking for them. They look good, even great at times on the field but they never seem to get to the end zone as often as one would expect.

    But the Cowboys, this is the "team to beat" this year? That was an awful display! Again, what should have been a routing of the worst team in the NFL right now was a barely won contest finished off by the dumb luck of Patrick Crayton being in the right spot at the most opportune time. Unless it was Grabby McFingers' (Miles Austin) fault for going after a ball that wasn't thrown to him. It was hard to tell if one of them either missed a cut or was just over zealous. Either way, dumb luck. The whole game was a mess. Yeah, maybe I'm being harsh but this is not how the "team to beat" should be playing and there is a higher standard that they are held to because of that "title". They are capable of playing at that level, they have shown it already. Maybe they will find it this season. If they don't, I see Mr. Manning and the Giants waltzing to another Super Bowl and beating up on some unlucky AFC team. And yeah, I still think the Cowboys are over-rated. They aren't impressing me. They should be doing much more with this depth of talent.

    On to bigger and better things! The Eagles! Wow! What happened to this team of teams? This underdog of epic proportions that was supposed to be the expected upset in the NFC east that was going to dominate offenses with smothering D and pummel defensive lines with a slippery and punishing running game? Oh, that's right, the Philadelphia Westbrook is injured and playing injured so they can go back to being the sucktastic Eagles. That was a horrendous display and I'm really not sure if this speaks volumes to the underestimation of the Redskins or if it's just another movement in the swan song of the failing Eagles. Either way, that was a BIG upset in the NFC Beast. I hope Philly gets their junk together and comes back in to it. But if the 'Skins beat the Giants on the 30th, they will have handed each NFC Beast team a defeat. I was surprised to see they beat the Eagles on Sunday. I wish I had had a chance to see some of the game. But I thought from the start of the season that the Eagles were over-rated and the Redskins under-rated. Now I think they are about even with the Eagles. And the Eagles' current record is deceiving. They are not a 2-3 team but I can honestly only see two more losses in their season if they start playing like a team instead of like a Brian Westbrook surround by a bunch of dudes in football jerseys.

    And the Cardinals! Holy hell, where did they come from? Most of the talking heads on TV were signing off on this season and talking about who they were going to get to QB the team next year (cause that's the missing piece of their puzzle there) and then, BAM! The Cardinals trash one of the AFC elite! I was expecting them to do well against the Bills. They matched up well but never expected a 41-17 bitch slap like that! The Cardinals looked good...no, great! They honestly had me thinking "How awesome would it be to see the Cardinals get to the NFC Championship or even the Super Bowl? OK, maybe it's only awesome to me but that was an eye opener when I saw it during the Dallas game. I had to go check NFL.com to be sure I saw it right.

    Green Bay needs to mortgage the stadium to pay for Brett Favre's return. Rodgers is not what everyone makes him out to be. When that team starts playing to a Rodger's play book instead of making Rodger's play to Favre's play book then they will do well. Until then, the ugliness just gets deeper and a bright, young QB is going to have his career put to shambles because of it. It's a sin and McCarthy should know better. And yes, I know Rodgers was injured and I'll give him that. But what I'm saying is that this kid is good, just not good enough to step into an offense, take over and lead. He's not a Brett Favre or a Tom Brady. He's honestly not just a Vinnie Testaverde or a Tony Romo either. He needs to work with a team and be part of a team. He doesn't stand out for anything other than being consistent. You can build a championship team around that. But you gotta build Aaron Rodger's championship team around Rodgers. Favre's championship team doesn't work. GB has the talent to adjust but if the coach doesn't put those wheels in motion, it doesn't work.

    On that note, yay for Atlanta! Vick is quickly becoming a part of the past we don't talk about!

    New England and San Francisco was closer than the score made it seem.

    Pittsburgh barely beat Jacksonville in an ugly win that showed how beat up Big Ben actually is. He was limping at the 2 minute warning in the 4th after what wasn't a particularly brutal take down. He's hurtin' and I hope he doesn't get injured. As much of a benefit as a problem for the Steelers he is, they don't have anyone waiting in the wings that can lead this team IMO.

    Indy finally eeked out a win against the Texans. I thought the Texans were gonna stroll through that one for the win. Glad I didn't have any money on it, I would have lost it.



    So how'd your team do? Happy? Sad? Just want to bitch and moan? Go ahead! Let's hear it!
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    Well, for this week, i may not be so mad about paying for the stadium...
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    Football is all over the place, not to mention the games to me seem boring. Eagles are always not what you want them to be.

    The Broncos won but what a boring game.
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    Yeah everyone seems to stink this year. THe teams you think are good almost blow it to the worst teams in teh league. Buffalo is undefeated, everyone thinks they're gonna have a good year, and they get blown out by Arizona? Dallas is supposed to be the best team in the league and they almost lose to a TERRIBLE and winless Cincy team? Ditto the Giants last week. San Diego loses to Miami, Indy almost blows it to Houston.... there are very few good teams this year and while it makes for some unpredictable matchups it gets old fast when you can't pinpoint anyone as good or bad.

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    I agree with John that the Cowboys are over-rated. Everyone talkes about them being the team to beat, I just don't see it.

    Either the Patriots are worse or the 49ers are better than I thought.

    Arizona will probably end up winning that division, by default since everyone else is so bad.

    The Bolts lose to Miami, what's up with that?

    The Skins have played all their road division games, and have an easy schedule ahead, they could easily be 7-1 in a few weeks.

    The Giants sure look good, and until they're beaten they're still the world Champs. The Giants are my team from the NFC, and the Colts are my team from the AFC - in terms of my favorite teams, not my picks to win the super bowl.

    Speaking of the Colts, I was so pissed at Indy about halfway through the 4th quarter yesterday, they've just looked awful all year. If there's one thing I've learned about Indy though, it's that you can never count them out in a game. Over the past few years they've had some great comebacks to win games, including one against New England ia couple years back to win the Super Bowl. Of course the argument would be that if they played well enough the entire game that wouldn't be necessary, but it makes for some exciting football and being a Colts fan I can never really turn off a game until it's over.
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    Titans are 5-0!!! And they actually beat a pretty good team this time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by exalted512 View Post
    Titans are 5-0!!! And they actually beat a pretty good team this time!
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    I think the Titans are in the same boat as the Bills. Both teams were very under-rated at the start of the season. 5 weeks later, it's a different story. I was honestly not surprised by the Titans' win. Not that I was expecting it either but they have been playing good ball. I wish they played more NFC teams this year 'cause I'd love to see what they do against teams like Dallas, Philly, New York, Washington, Carolina and Tampa Bay. I don't think they are going to have a real challenger in the AFC. I'm thinkin' we might be seeing the AFC champs this year in the Titans.





    A couple other notes.

    I'm sad to see the Saints with a 2-2 season so far. They are honestly better than that. They play Minnesota tonight and I honestly think they will beat them. They don't deserve being stuck at the bottom of the division when they can handily out play the Falcons and the Bucs at this point. They'd be ugly wins but the Saints can do it.


    I mentioned Miles Austin earlier and after watching highlights of this guy from the past few weeks, he kind of irks me. Not for attitude or anything. He's been playing pro for like 3 or 4 years now. This is his first round of real-deal, prime-time action and he seems to be trying way too hard to make something big happen. He sees dudes like T.O. and Crayton making huge plays and being the 3rd wide out, it's almost like he feels over-shadowed. As much of a cry baby T.O. can be, both he and Crayton are accomplished professionals. He should honestly be learning from them and the other vets on his team rather than trying to show them up. He took a big risk that could have cost the game on Sunday and it was sophomore over-zealousness that caused him to take a routine play and try to turn it into something spectacular. Even T.O. gets it that while the glory of the big play is a big deal, the team goal comes first. T.O. forgets that sometimes and needs reminding but at least T.O. doesn't take unnecessary risks. Then again, an unnecessary risk to a guy like Miles Austin is just another day at the office for a talent as strong as T.O.

    Yeah, Miles Austin needs to settle down a bit and grow in his role. He's talented, no doubt, but he needs a year or two of hard experience before he can become an all-star starter. He's got a good opportunity to grow and learn from one of the most experience squads in the NFL. He should work on being a functioning cog in the machine before he gets to be his own over-drive gear. He could actually learn from the rookie RB Felix Jones. He is a big talent with a very small ego, he's gonna go far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jstas View Post
    I think the Titans are in the same boat as the Bills. Both teams were very under-rated at the start of the season. 5 weeks later, it's a different story. I was honestly not surprised by the Titans' win. Not that I was expecting it either but they have been playing good ball. I wish they played more NFC teams this year 'cause I'd love to see what they do against teams like Dallas, Philly, New York, Washington, Carolina and Tampa Bay. I don't think they are going to have a real challenger in the AFC. I'm thinkin' we might be seeing the AFC champs this year in the Titans.
    Underrated...very! But they had to take into account they had an ex-longhorn at the helm. Now that hes gone, things are going good!

    They'll def. be contenders, but I dont think theyre anywhere as good as their record shows...3-2/4-1 is where they should be, had they not played terrible teams this whole season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobman1235 View Post
    Yeah everyone seems to stink this year. THe teams you think are good almost blow it to the worst teams in teh league. Buffalo is undefeated, everyone thinks they're gonna have a good year, and they get blown out by Arizona? Dallas is supposed to be the best team in the league and they almost lose to a TERRIBLE and winless Cincy team? Ditto the Giants last week. San Diego loses to Miami, Indy almost blows it to Houston.... there are very few good teams this year and while it makes for some unpredictable matchups it gets old fast when you can't pinpoint anyone as good or bad.

    Especially if you gamble....
    Cannot agree more. I take it from the Broncos side though. We get our ass handed to us by KC, and KC goes back to their usual ways and gets blown out again this week. It still boggles my mind that we lose that game. But when your defense is on the field for 40 minutes of the game what do you expect.

    As for this week. How Houston loses that game is beyond me. I'm sorry Indy fans but I hate Peyton, and the Colts should be 0-4. But they are not.

    As for Arizona. How anyone could write off that team is beyond me. Yeah the Cards are very fragile mentally. BUT they have a good defense, their offense is crazy good, and they play in a very weak division. This team is legit (when they want to be), and could be a serious contender if they can secure a first round bye. They already beat SF in SF, so that game is out of the way. Seattle, STL? No way those teams are horrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by avelanchefan View Post
    As for Arizona. How anyone could write off that team is beyond me.
    How could they do that?

    Quote Originally Posted by avelanchefan View Post
    Yeah the Cards are very fragile mentally. BUT they have a good defense, their offense is crazy good, and they play in a very weak division. This team is legit (when they want to be), and could be a serious contender if they can secure a first round bye. They already beat SF in SF, so that game is out of the way. Seattle, STL? No way those teams are horrible.
    You just said it right there.

    And for Arizona to get a first round bye, right now, they have quite a few much better teams to get passed to do that.
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    I was at the Eagles-Skins game yesterday. My wife was given a pair of tix(awesome seats...45 yard line, 26th row on the Skins sideline) and everything was going our way in the early going...the Linc was rockin' BIGTIME! 14-0 and driving again for another score but had to settle for a FG attempt. Ask any Eagles fan and they want Akers gone. He was once a great PK but those days are gone. He can barely make 40 yarders now which is totally unacceptable.

    It was also typical Andy Reid BS. After his first 15 scripted plays the guy is out of his element. He simply cannot coach on the fly.

    He's been getting blasted on the Eagles boards for quite awhile but it's been taken to another level after yesterday's horrid display after the 1st qtr. I'm hardly the only one who wants to see him get the axe.

    The Giants have played nobody at this point. The Bengals almost beat them in OT last week..at the Meadowlands. They played the Skins in the opener when they didn't know what they were doing. The Skins didn't find themselves until the 4th qtr of the Saints game. The Giants were only beating the lowly Rams 20-13 after three qtrs.

    The Giants still have to play the rest of the division twice along with the Steelers. The Eagles already beat the Steelers and lost two heartbreakers to the Cowboys and Skins. The NFC East is brutal right now. There are no cupcakes in our division.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jstas View Post

    And for Arizona to get a first round bye, right now, they have quite a few much better teams to get passed to do that.
    Theoretically only two teams. Right now it looks like Carolina in the South, or the NY Giants in the East. (That is of coarse if the Cards win their division) The North is to weak of a division and it could be an 8-8 team that wins it.

    The Cards still play the Rams and Seahawks twice, and the 49'ers once. BUT looking at their other games. Wow what a tough schedule. Dallas, Carolina, Giants, NE, Vikings, Philly. Uugh all those games are potential losses. So my previous theory is out the window.

    I still think they win the division, but I doubt they can overcome the South or East division winners in W/L record to get a bye week. Not after seeing their schedule.

    BTW- I am in no way a Cardinal homer, let alone a fan, I just happen to live in AZ, and am forced to watch them every week. All though this year has been a lot more fun to watch than in years past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by avelanchefan View Post
    BTW- I am in no way a Cardinal homer, let alone a fan, I just happen to live in AZ, and am forced to watch them every week. All though this year has been a lot more fun to watch than in years past.
    I'm with ya there. I don't live in AZ but I've always been intrigued by the Cardinals. It's almost like most people forget Arizona even has a football team. I would love to see them go all the way and beat up on the best the AFC has to offer but they just aren't there yet. Like the Bengals, if the Cards can keep a decent and productive QB playing every week, they got the whole package, they just gotta get it to click. Are they an elite team? No, not even close. But they are not a bad team either.

    Makes me want to give them a donation like an extra 5 bucks will put them over the top and then BAM! A Super Bowl ring!
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    Ahh... I can't wait for 2010... when the Chiefs will be competitive. I hope :)

    I will take 2-14 if both the wins come against the Donkies and we get the first round pick of the draft. Ha. But I seriously hate Herm, who has taken the best Home Field advantage in the NFL for 20 years, and in a short 3 years made us a creampuff team that can't win on their own turn. Disgusting if you ask me.

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    The win at Lambeau could turn the Falcons' season from an above-expectations season to a good or very good season, expectations be damned. Was Green Bay nicked up a bit? Sure, but good teams like Green Bay are supposed to get by teams like the Falcons even if they are nicked up, right?

    I know Seattle is very average at best right now, but what the G-Men did was impressive nonetheless.

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    Great year if youre a Titans fan!!!

    Im especially glad that Vince Young is back where he belongs......on the BENCH!!

    Our defense got us into the playoffs DESPITE him. This year Collins is complimenting our monster defense and we're off to the best start in franchise history!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacLeod View Post
    Great year if youre a Titans fan!!!

    Im especially glad that Vince Young is back where he belongs......on the BENCH!!
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    The Chargers are a complete disappointment.

    If you want a poster child for "underachievement" that would be the Chargers.

    They have an innate ability to play down to their competition and give games away.

    Rivers is gimpy, and LT seems unmotivated. I'd rather see Sproules in more.

    Maybe next year....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik Tracy View Post
    The Chargers are a complete disappointment.

    If you want a poster child for "underachievement" that would be the Chargers.

    They have an innate ability to play down to their competition and give games away.

    Rivers is gimpy, and LT seems unmotivated. I'd rather see Sproules in more.

    Maybe next year....
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