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    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.

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    ^^^^ That really doesn't warrant a response, but I'll give it a shot . . . I recently went from 12 awg Tributaries to MIT AVT2 . . . .

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    Seriously, parnold. No joke. This is one of the best threads in the entire Polk forum. Please, just go away. Do not drag this thread down to a cable debate. We're more than aware of the fact that many people do not believe cables make a difference. Been down this road too many times. Just let it go.
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    I'm letting it go, and I do admire DK's work, don't want to derail the thread too much. Just didn't want people thinking that cables are the end all solution to audio nirvana. /thread back on rails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parnold View Post
    Have you ever tried blind testing cables?
    Of course I have tried blind testing cables. Have you ever tried reading as opposed to jumping to erroneous conclusions? The reason I ask is that my first comment in the post you quoted from (#308) said this:

    Quote Originally Posted by DarqueKnight
    I did not hear a difference between the [Monster Cable] Z2 Reference and Volcano cables, even though the Volcanoes had a lower average noise spectrum density and magnitude. This seems to indicate that either there is an upper bound on improvement in sound quality with improvement in SDA cable quality or my equipment could not convey the difference or that my ears could not discern the difference.

    While I did not hear a difference or improvement with the use of a pair of $3300 cables on the Dreadnought, I did hear a moderate improvement when the Dreadnought was placed in its $200 aluminium enclosure.
    However, in spite of the above, you just zeroed in on the very last comment where I reported a small audible improvement with a cable upgrade.

    Quote Originally Posted by DarqueKnight
    Don't get me wrong guys I love the sound of my Polks just as much as you guys do, yet cables should be the last thing on everyone's mind when upgrading their Polks to make an audible difference.
    Yeah, maybe that's why so many of us focused on upgrading tweeters, modifying drivers, upgrading crossover components, modifying cabinets...and other things. We are not as naive as you seem to need to believe.

    Quote Originally Posted by parnold View Post
    I'm letting it go, and I do admire DK's work, don't want to derail the thread too much. Just didn't want people thinking that cables are the end all solution to audio nirvana.
    Thanks for the "enlightenment".
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    Oh how I wish I had oscilloscope plots to show how much cables DO make a difference.
    Basic electrical theory still applies. Path of least resistance and all of that.

    Sort of like saying a house having a 100 amp service is just as good as having a 200 amp service when the home owner runs 3 phase table saws and drill presses and lathes, oh my.

    Pretty sure that this shows how wrong you are parnold: http://www.cirris.com/testing/resistance/wire.html

    Or how about just taking the exact same length and diameter of wire and simply seeing the resistance of various materials: http://chemandy.com/calculators/roun...calculator.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZLTFUL View Post
    Pretty sure that this shows how wrong you are parnold: http://www.cirris.com/testing/resistance/wire.html

    Or how about just taking the exact same length and diameter of wire and simply seeing the resistance of various materials: http://chemandy.com/calculators/roun...calculator.htm
    I'm sure parnold meant well. He just didn't want us to get ensnared by the diabolical schemes of the snakeoil audio cable companies. If parnold, and others, wish to discuss the evils if the the audio cable industry, I hope they will take it to another thread.

    Thank you for your consideration.
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    Whoa...there's snake oil?!? Where do I sign up??!!
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    I may have an addiction... RTA-15TL, SDA 2, LSi25, LSi15, LSi9, LSi7, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LS/FX, RT/FX, DSW MP2000...and that's just the Polks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by parnold View Post
    This is a sentiment I agree with



    This is one that needs some re-evaluation. Have you ever tried blind testing cables? Although there may be some minor differences people tell you such as



    Which cable companies want you to believe in will make an audible difference, its a old trick thats been tested many times over which shows it's just a subjective effect.

    Don't get me wrong guys I love the sound of my Polks just as much as you guys do, yet cables should be the last thing on everyone's mind when upgrading their Polks to make an audible difference. They do look cool though, I'll give them that.

    How about giving us a list of the gear your using??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toolfan66 View Post
    How about giving us a list of the gear your using??
    Let me guess -
    An iPhone
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    MP3 Player
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarqueKnight View Post
    Of course I have tried blind testing cables. Have you ever tried reading as opposed to jumping to erroneous conclusions?

    No matter what we say, how much we say it, that cables DO make a difference, it will be up to people like them to take it upon themselves to experience the difference cables make. Until that day, they will be audio blind.

    I can be certian to speak for the long-time forum members and contributors that we are ALL thankful for the efforts DK, TF66, and others who have contributed to this forum and made the Polk World a better place.
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    Geez Phil, that enclosure is truly built like a tank. What was done to the front plate, was it sandblasted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by F1nut View Post
    Geez Phil, that enclosure is truly built like a tank. What was done to the front plate, was it sandblasted?
    It was hard anodized. The guy who did it for me said that it would dipped in an acid solution for cleaning before the anodizing process, but it wasn't sand blasted. The machinist buffed the aluminum plate after drilling and chamfering it. Perhaps, the buffing created the effect.

    Using 3/8" plate was probably overkill, but I used it for two reasons: 1) DarqueKnight's write up indicated the more aluminum shielding, the better the performance. 2) I wanted to countersink the socket-head cap screws so that they would be flush with the surface.

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    This is my Family Room system with the Dreadnought next to the Perreaux SM6MKII preamp on the second shelf of the cart. Lisa and I still have not decided exactly how we want to reconfigure the cabinets behind to accommodate the monoblocks that are now sitting on the top shelf. But, even as now set up, the sound is great coming out of the SDA SRS1.2as, and it is getting better and better as the new crossovers from Trey's shop, SDA inductors, and the Dreadnought get more hours on them.

    Just for the record, the speakers are 8" from the rear wall.
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    Maybe what you are saying is true for regular wire but my speaker cables have these magical little boxes on each cable that have a bunch of patents that make my system sound wonderful.

    You should try them out if you can afford to buy them!

    http://www.mitcables.com/available-o...ker-cable.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZLTFUL View Post
    Oh how I wish I had oscilloscope plots to show how much cables DO make a difference.
    Basic electrical theory still applies. Path of least resistance and all of that.

    Sort of like saying a house having a 100 amp service is just as good as having a 200 amp service when the home owner runs 3 phase table saws and drill presses and lathes, oh my.

    Pretty sure that this shows how wrong you are parnold: http://www.cirris.com/testing/resistance/wire.html

    Or how about just taking the exact same length and diameter of wire and simply seeing the resistance of various materials: http://chemandy.com/calculators/roun...calculator.htm
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    Now that is some sexy ass snake oil right there!
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    That's true but my speakers are worth 3 to 4K, Don't really think they are good enough for $37k speaker cables. I'd rather buy 36 solar panels for my roof with the $37K



    Quote Originally Posted by Toolfan66 View Post
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    Yo ZITFUL, I'm Pretty Sure that the US Patent Office does not issue Patents for devices that produce snake oil!



    Quote Originally Posted by ZLTFUL View Post
    Now that is some sexy ass snake oil right there!
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    All I can say is WOW.

    What an impressive write up :) I can't wait to begin.

    Owned my 1.2 for 24 years and said to say I just learned about the + & - post were backwards due to polk using up old stickers. Already sounding better. Dreadnaught is first then amps then cables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lasareath View Post
    Yo ZITFUL, I'm Pretty Sure that the US Patent Office does not issue Patents for devices that produce snake oil!
    Sure they do.

    I bet somewhere there is a micro car converted to run on snake oil. Probably in San Francisco.

    And the snake oil refinery is in Cambridge, Ma.

    And it's probably patented.

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