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    Default Dynamic Range Help - Yamaha

    Note: Tried to find answers by searching but came up with very little.

    I have 2 questions that have been driving me nuts and wasn't sure if this should be posted on this site, a general HT site, or the Emotiva site, but I enjoy this forum to most, so here it is...

    1) As you can see from my sig, I have RTi10's, CSi A6, a Yamaha 6190 (= 1800), and an EMO XPA-3. I hooked up the XPA-3 just this weekend and noticed a difference, but to be honest was a little disappointed. It sounded much better than just the Yamaha, but wasn't what I hoped for.

    I has some time this afternoon to really play with the system and try to figure out what I was doing wrong. I couldn't believe that Emotiva got this many good reviews with the results I was getting.

    I got into the AVR settings and came to the Dynamic Range section. This is what the manual says:

    ■ Dynamic range C)DYNAMIC RANGE
    Use this feature to select the amount of dynamic range
    compression to be applied to your speakers or
    headphones. This setting is effective only when this unit is
    decoding bitstream signals.
    Speakers SPEAKER
    Adjusts the dynamic range compression for the speakers.
    Headphones HEADPHONE
    Adjusts the dynamic range compression for the
    headphones.

    B)LFE LEVEL
    SPEAKER;;;;;;0dB
    HEADPHONE;;;;0dB
    UP/DOWN
    Adjust

    Choice Functions
    MIN/AUTO
    • MIN: Adjusts the dynamic range to narrow
    when this unit is decoding bitstream signals
    (except Dolby TrueHD).
    • AUTO: Adjusts the dynamic range according
    to the instruction of the input source signals
    when this unit is decoding Dolby TrueHD
    signals.

    STD Adjusts the dynamic range to medium. When
    this unit is decoding Dolby TrueHD signals, the
    dynamic range control is always active
    regardless of the instruction of the input source
    signals.

    MAX Preserves the greatest amount of dynamic range.


    Now I don't have a Degree in anything related to this kind of stuff, but I feel I have a better than average understanding of what things mean in the setup menu. That being said, can someone explain to me what this means in layman's terms? I had it set on MIN/AUTO and was REALLY impressed with speakers once I switched it to MAX.

    In short, I'm looking to figure out what Dynamic Range is and what is happening when I turn it to MAX? Also, it mentions Dolby HD in the manual, but this setting makes everything sound better, not just BluRays.

    2) Is there some tool I could be using to set the EQ? There are two sections in the manual about EQ:

    Parametric equalizer type EQ
    Parametric equalizer adjusts the level of the specified
    frequency bands. This unit automatically selects the
    crucial frequency bands for the listening room and
    adjusts the level of the selected frequency bands to
    create a cohesive sound field in the room. You can
    select the type of the parametric equalizer adjustment
    from the following choices.
    Choices: NATURAL, FLAT, FRONT, SKIP
    • Select “NATURAL” to average out the frequency
    response of all speakers with higher frequencies
    being less emphasized. Recommended if the FLAT
    setting sounds a little harsh.
    • Select “FLAT” to average the frequency response
    of all speakers. Recommended if all of your
    speakers are of similar quality.
    • Select “FRONT” to adjust the frequency response
    of each speaker in accordance with the sound of
    your front speakers. Recommended if your front
    speakers are of much higher quality than your other
    speakers.
    • Select “SKIP” to skip this item and perform no
    adjustments


    and

    Graphic equalizer GEQ
    Use this feature to match the tonal quality of the center,
    surround L/R and surround back L/R, surround back,
    presence L/R speakers and the subwoofer with that of the
    front L/R speakers. You can adjust 7 frequency bands (63
    Hz, 160 Hz, 400 Hz, 1 kHz, 2.5 kHz, 6.3 kHz, 16 kHz).
    Control range: –6.0 dB to +6.0 dB
    Control step: 0.5 dB


    Can some please explain this to me. I feel really dumb not being able to figure this out, but CP has always been there to help in the past.

    In short, is there a tool of calibrating EQ and which would be better (Preset EQ options or one done through the Graphic EQ)?

    Thanks in advance folks.
    HT RIG

    DISPLAY - Samsung 50A550 Plasma
    MAINS - polkaudio RTi10
    CENTER - polkaudio CSiA6
    REARS - polkaudio M20
    SUB - D-Box David 303 (looking into SVS & Velo)
    AVR - Yamaha HTR-6190
    AMP - Emotiva XPA-3 (:D)
    SAT/PVR - Bell HD 6141 1TB HDD
    BluRay - 60G PS3
    DVD - Pioneer 490-V (1080i upconverting)
    POWER - Belkin PF31
    REMOTE - Harmony 880

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    The dynamic range control is for night viewing, or other times that you do not want to turn the volume up to hear dialog. I have the 1800, and always leave it at MAX. As you noticed, that is when you will get the best sound.

    For the parametric EQ, you need to use the YPAO mic. I set mine up to "Front". This leaves the front speakers un-touched, and will EQ the other speakers to match it. For best results, set your speaker sizes manually first, and when running YAPO tell it to skip the speaker size detection. It always sets everything to large.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WilliamM2 View Post
    The dynamic range control is for night viewing, or other times that you do not want to turn the volume up to hear dialog. I have the 1800, and always leave it at MAX. As you noticed, that is when you will get the best sound.

    For the parametric EQ, you need to use the YPAO mic. I set mine up to "Front". This leaves the front speakers un-touched, and will EQ the other speakers to match it. For best results, set your speaker sizes manually first, and when running YAPO tell it to skip the speaker size detection. It always sets everything to large.

    Thanks so much, that is VERY helpful.

    Anyone got info on the GEQ? Is that like calibrating your TV, but for sound?
    HT RIG

    DISPLAY - Samsung 50A550 Plasma
    MAINS - polkaudio RTi10
    CENTER - polkaudio CSiA6
    REARS - polkaudio M20
    SUB - D-Box David 303 (looking into SVS & Velo)
    AVR - Yamaha HTR-6190
    AMP - Emotiva XPA-3 (:D)
    SAT/PVR - Bell HD 6141 1TB HDD
    BluRay - 60G PS3
    DVD - Pioneer 490-V (1080i upconverting)
    POWER - Belkin PF31
    REMOTE - Harmony 880

    PICTURES HERE

    A wise man once said "Friends don't let friends buy Bose"

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdcfan18 View Post
    Thanks so much, that is VERY helpful.

    Anyone got info on the GEQ? Is that like calibrating your TV, but for sound?
    It's graphic EQ. You can set the different frequencies manually. I wouldn't bother with it, you can only use the PEQ or EQ, not both.

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