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    Do not be confused.

    Tubes Rule for one simple reason.

    I said so.

    See me, feel me, touch me, or bite me.

    RT1
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    Quote Originally Posted by xj4094dg View Post
    I'm rockin' a Parasound HCA 2200ii for my front LSi 9's. They seem to love it. Its an old amp but sounds great to me and anyone who hears it. Plenty of power and trouble free so far for many years.
    This is a good stuff you have. It's an OLDie but definitely a Goodie and can drive most speaker load. A lot of good and old parasound amps out there but that model is a keeper.

    Tubes DO NOT RULE.....:p

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    All solid state here. B&K, musical fidelity, Simaudio, McCormack, Parasound, HK, Carver, NAD, Classe have all been part of my system(s) in the past couple years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowcarIX View Post
    SS - class d



    :D
    That's one Hell of a Packed Little Class D. What's the Rating for it?
    Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyGwis View Post
    All solid state here. B&K, musical fidelity, Simaudio, McCormack, Parasound, HK, Carver, NAD, Classe have all been part of my system(s) in the past couple years.
    All Good Stuff there. All are NICE Gears!
    Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone.

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    You need to print the whole scentence out and quit with the nickel on a dime stuff.

    Tubes do not Rule some of the time, TUBES RULE ALL OF THE TIME.

    You Reeely need to come to understand that I am absolutely impossible, oh yea and I am right.

    I am RT1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reeltrouble1 View Post

    tubes do not rule some of the time, tubes rule all of the time.
    I am getting this word PRINTED OUT in BOLD RED (font size : 60) and stick it on my forehead. It's impossible, I know. ;)

    NOT!

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    Good idea, I suspect it might help hide the big SS "L".

    The only REEL question is which Tube Rules all Tubes, of course I know, but not sure if I am going to tell.

    RT1
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    Subs-Twin Polk CSW200
    HTS5000


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    BAT VK-31SE
    VTL MB-450 Signature monoblock
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    Musical Fidelity kW SACD
    Rega P25/RB600/Clearaudio Aurum Beta
    Acoustech Phono-Pre
    Sound Lab Millenium ELS
    BillyBags Rack
    MIT S1/3 cables
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    For RT1 : Rockin Baby, Rockin....Babiiii....Oh, Toob, Yeah...Oh...Rule....Rule...Oh....Vac...Cum.......T oobbb....oh...yeah...my world. :D

    For Mega : Rocking SS...SS....Baby SS...Ur S My Dream...U rock my world.....U rule My Raw....P'ower....:D

    See, there's more rhyme in my version.

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    What's rockin' my world?

    My Placette passive line stage. Wish I had done this long ago. Neutral, smooth, linear, musical. I love it.

    Source: Squeezebox Touch/CIA Power Supply
    DAC: Benchmark DAC/PRE
    Linestage: Placette RVC Passive
    Power Amp: Parasound HCA-1500A
    Speakers: Harbeth Compact 7ES-3 Monitor
    Subwoofer: SVS PB12-NSD

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveinaz View Post
    What's rockin' my world?

    My Placette passive line stage. Wish I had done this long ago. Neutral, smooth, linear, musical. I love it.
    Hell, yeah, you punk bastards!!!!:D

    Me? Let's see -- tube CDP, tube monos, plus the Placette. It's a winning combination.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50 LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."

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    The only real question is which Tube Rules all Tubes, of course I know, but not sure if I am going to tell.
    No need to keep it a secret,here it is.http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/data...rf/irfp240.pdf
    Everyone who has heard a ZEN/Aleph/First Watt knows that the three legged tubes are the best sounding.;)

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    Thank you Brad. But I'm perfectly happy looking at my pretty blue LED from my prepro & now from my DSW400 sub!;):D

    Quote Originally Posted by Early B. View Post
    There are a bunch of misconceptions out there about tube gear, cfrizz. Most tube gear requires very little maintenance, and tubes can last for many, many hundreds or even thousands of hours. My amps don't even require biasing, so they're essentially plug & play just like SS amps.

    The fun part about tube gear is trying different tubes. Of course, you don't have to, but it's nice to know you can. And you gotta admit, they look pretty cool when you dim the lights.

    I hope this helps you out with the crazy confusion you have about tubes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GV#27 View Post
    No need to keep it a secret,here it is.http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/data...rf/irfp240.pdf
    Everyone who has heard a ZEN/Aleph/First Watt knows that the three legged tubes are the best sounding.;)
    True dat :p:D;):)
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

    Pass Aleph 30; Eastern Electric Mini Max; Adcom GDA600; MIT S3/Z Pc; SDA 1C; Squeezebox; Tubes add soul!

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    Quote Originally Posted by megasat16 View Post
    This is a good stuff you have. It's an OLDie but definitely a Goodie and can drive most speaker load. A lot of good and old parasound amps out there but that model is a keeper.

    Tubes DO NOT RULE.....:p
    I agree. I had some ESS amt1 d's hooked up to it for a few years. What a great combination that was.

    385 watts RMS x 2, 20Hz-20kHz, 4ohms
    50 amperes continuous
    90 amperes peak
    pure Class A operation up to >6 watts output; Class AB-1 thereafter

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    ESS AMT1D are one of the Goodies too. Hope you keep it. It's not easy to find a good AMT1 speakers these day.

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    I've only had SS, so right now my Rotel, to me is KING !
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    Quote Originally Posted by GV#27 View Post
    No need to keep it a secret,here it is.http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/data...rf/irfp240.pdf
    Everyone who has heard a ZEN/Aleph/First Watt knows that the three legged tubes are the best sounding.;)

    hehehehehehe, well your on the right number there GV, but its the three nippled Tube that Rocks the World.

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    B&K 7270 amplifier
    Polk SWA-500 Subwoofer amplifier
    OppO BDP-83
    Pioneer Elite 50"
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    Subs-Twin Polk CSW200
    HTS5000


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    VTL MB-450 Signature monoblock
    Wolcott Presence monoblock
    Musical Fidelity kW SACD
    Rega P25/RB600/Clearaudio Aurum Beta
    Acoustech Phono-Pre
    Sound Lab Millenium ELS
    BillyBags Rack
    MIT S1/3 cables
    Shunyata/PS Audio/Virtual Dynamics Power Cords


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    Quote Originally Posted by cfrizz View Post
    Thank you Brad. But I'm perfectly happy looking at my pretty blue LED from my prepro & now from my DSW400 sub!;):D

    my good lady, the essence of the blue light coming from the BAT's is so pure that only by your presence would it be paled.

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    B&K 7270 amplifier
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    OppO BDP-83
    Pioneer Elite 50"
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    Subs-Twin Polk CSW200
    HTS5000


    RABBIT HOLE RIG
    BAT VK-31SE
    VTL MB-450 Signature monoblock
    Wolcott Presence monoblock
    Musical Fidelity kW SACD
    Rega P25/RB600/Clearaudio Aurum Beta
    Acoustech Phono-Pre
    Sound Lab Millenium ELS
    BillyBags Rack
    MIT S1/3 cables
    Shunyata/PS Audio/Virtual Dynamics Power Cords


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    You are such a swooner, I'll bet you could have given Sinatra a run for his money.

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    Well right now I am enjoying my Luxman M-117 amp and my new Marantz 6600 universal player (had both less than a week). The Adcom 535II in the pic is for my center channel. I previously had an Adcom 545 but had the opportunity to try the Luxman. I did an A/B comparison and the Luxman walked all over the Adcom imo. Of course the Luxman has 2x the power of the Adcom but overall I feel there is a big difference in sound. Now if only I were able to compare the Adcom 555 to the Luxman......I wonder which one would sound better, hmmmm. Maybe I'll get that chance since Adcoms come up for sale so often. Been listening to some old Patsy Cline and it sounds phenominal. Once I have been schooled in tubes I may go that route but for now I don't get any of the harshness mentioned that comes with SS gear.


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    What just rocked my world???

    The Beatles "Love" Side C & D going through my SS phonopre Spectral and my hybrid integrated TriVista 300. I have goosebumps.

    ROCK ON!!!

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    Tubes are rocking my world, but just baby tubes. :p




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    but its the three nippled Tube that Rocks the World.

    RT1
    Oh come on now,you don't mean that goofy looking Russian thingy the6C33 or what ever ?:D

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    :o Aww shucks Ted, you are such a sweetheart! Your wife is a lucky lady!:)

    Enjoy your tubes my dear gentleman.

    Quote Originally Posted by reeltrouble1 View Post
    my good lady, the essence of the blue light coming from the BAT's is so pure that only by your presence would it be paled.

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    Some good reads (tubes or no tubes) for you Ladies and Gents in the club!

    If you've already read it, please disregard this.

    I've stumbled upon that site awhile ago.

    http://www.tone-lizard.com/Table_Of_Contents.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by GV#27 View Post
    No need to keep it a secret,here it is.http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/data...rf/irfp240.pdf
    Everyone who has heard a ZEN/Aleph/First Watt knows that the three legged tubes are the best sounding.;)

    According to GV here, one of my 3 legged tubes amp pics added in the post. ;)


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    Great tube gear and great ss gear sound more similiar than different.

    With ss amps it is very expensive to get the expansiveness in soundstage and the smoothness that tubes offer. However, with tube amps it gets very expensive to get ss power. So it depends on which one of those is a priority to you.

    I am not sure where the comments that tubes take the edge off are coming from. I do not find this to be the case at all...if anything I find tubes to be more detailed with more subtle textures than middle of the road ss amps. I have that Clapton unplugged cd and still find it very edgy in my system as well.

    The nice thing that ss amps offer is the ability to pull double duty in regards to home theatre. Something I will have to work around because my tube amps aren't going anywhere any time soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by megasat16 View Post


    14 x Sanken 17A 200V 200W tri leg tubes for each channel.
    Dang,you sure thats not an arc welder?



    As potent as those Sankens are the MOSFETs characteristics more closely resemble tubes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GV#27 View Post
    Dang,you sure thats not an arc welder?



    As potent as those Sankens are the MOSFETs characteristics more closely resemble tubes.
    Very true......don't think I'll ever own another amp with BJT's. And I'm damn near addicted to Pure Class A. In fact my little space heater is working out quite well this time of year :D:p

    This summer is going to be a little scary:)
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