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    Default freshwater aquarium, 10,000K metal halide?

    anyone here uses a 10,000K lamp for freshwater tank? Is it too white/blue?
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    I wouldn't recommend metal halide for a freshwater aquarium Abner. Those are better suited for sal****er reef systems with live rock, corals and invertebrates, such as anemones. It's an intense white light and gets really hot. You'll need fans for cooling them and also a chiller to keep the water temp down so you don't cook the livestock.

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    Unless you are keeping something specific (and hard to keep) in freshwater, you don't need to go crazy with lighting. You will save quite a few bucks if you go with a decent full spectrum flourescent blub and hood (on both electric and bulb cost). If you really like that light set up (which I wish I had), go salt.
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    Full spectrum flourescents here in all 3 tanks. I'm wanting to do some 'blue' in my cichlid tank though.
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    Fish belong outdoors.....do like I did....build a pond,then you don't have to worry about all that crap.:p

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keiko View Post
    I wouldn't recommend metal halide for a freshwater aquarium Abner. Those are better suited for sal****er reef systems with live rock, corals and invertebrates, such as anemones. It's an intense white light and gets really hot. You'll need fans for cooling them and also a chiller to keep the water temp down so you don't cook the livestock.
    i have been running MH since i started the tank...the last 2 bulbs were 6500K, want to try a new color range bulb

    its a 120gal open top tank and it looses ~3gals water everyweek

    there is only 1 species...started with i think was 8 and they multiply like rabbits...its up to 100+++ now :D


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo View Post
    Unless you are keeping something specific (and hard to keep) in freshwater, you don't need to go crazy with lighting. You will save quite a few bucks if you go with a decent full spectrum flourescent blub and hood (on both electric and bulb cost). If you really like that light set up (which I wish I had), go salt.
    i started out in the deep end with reef...did well. then moved to freshwater plant...with congo tetras, cardinal tetras and amano shrimps...

    got lazy when i moved to austin, started a 1 type fish tank :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by RuSsMaN View Post
    Full spectrum flourescents here in all 3 tanks. I'm wanting to do some 'blue' in my cichlid tank though.
    VHO tubes?

    blue like actinic 420nm light?

    what cichlids do you have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyb View Post
    Fish belong outdoors.....do like I did....build a pond,then you don't have to worry about all that crap.:p
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowcarIX View Post
    i have been running MH since i started the tank...the last 2 bulbs were 6500K, want to try a new color range bulb

    its a 120gal open top tank and it looses ~3gals water everyweek

    there is only 1 species...started with i think was 8 and they multiply like rabbits...its up to 100+++ now :D
    Well, if that's working for ya cool. I assumed metal halide would be to hot for fw. I got a 90gal. mini reef in my dining room. It's become the aquarium of death, where only the strong survive. I haven't been giving it the attention that it needs lately. :o

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keiko View Post
    Well, if that's working for ya cool. I assumed metal halide would be to hot for fw. I got a 90gal. mini reef in my dining room. It's become the aquarium of death, where only the strong survive. I haven't been giving it the attention that it needs lately. :o
    its hot and its bright. i like the shimmering effect from the light going thru surface ripples.

    i havent changed water in the tank for 4 months, just topping a few gallons a week...the rapid algae growth uses all the nutrients like nitrates/phosphates and i just harvest them everyweek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyb View Post
    Fish belong outdoors.....do like I did....build a pond,then you don't have to worry about all that crap.:p
    right until November when I can have frozen fish sticks ;)
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    Default I have a reef and freshawater tank

    The truth is you do not need MH, reef req a MH because it reproduce natural Sun light, but what you would want would be a 14,000k mh, best of both worlds

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    i had the ballast and reflector from when i had a planted tank. so rather than get a new setup, i just used what i had...

    14000K might be a bit too blue...

    i got a 10000K ushio bulb coming from dr forster /smith
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    if you do this, before and after pics would be appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowcarIX View Post
    VHO tubes?

    blue like actinic 420nm light?

    what cichlids do you have?
    I don't know, you tell me what I can add easily. My main tank is a little 55gal, and I need to find a local deal on something bigger. Right now, an assortment of Africans: Cynotilapia, Labidochromis, Melanochromis, Nimbochromis, Paralabidochromis, etc. Also have a big pictus cat in there, along with a pair of bala sharks and a goofy tinfoil barb. Oh, and a handful of giant danios that keep the top of the tank moving.

    I really have been wanting to do a South American tank, but I've grown so fond of the African temperment and personalities. Aggressive, but not overly so.

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    My FW tank is like watching an epsiode of Survivor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIZILL View Post
    if you do this, before and after pics would be appreciated.
    bulb should be here today - will take pics.

    the 2 pics above is taken under 6500K MH

    my guess is the higher kelvin light will have less reds/yellows...:)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RuSsMaN View Post
    I don't know, you tell me what I can add easily. My main tank is a little 55gal, and I need to find a local deal on something bigger. Right now, an assortment of Africans: Cynotilapia, Labidochromis, Melanochromis, Nimbochromis, Paralabidochromis, etc. Also have a big pictus cat in there, along with a pair of bala sharks and a goofy tinfoil barb. Oh, and a handful of giant danios that keep the top of the tank moving.

    I really have been wanting to do a South American tank, but I've grown so fond of the African temperment and personalities. Aggressive, but not overly so.

    Bad pics, just snapped a couple.

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    you should be able to get a drop in actinic blue tube...since the actinics emit light centered at 420nm, you will need another full spectrum tube for the longer spectrum light (red/yellows)



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    Quote Originally Posted by dorokusai View Post
    My FW tank is like watching an epsiode of Survivor.
    lets see some pics :p
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    Would love to see pic of the 10K light. I too use four 6500K CF but thinking of replacing 2 with 10K.

    i havent changed water in the tank for 4 months, just topping a few gallons a week...the rapid algae growth uses all the nutrients like nitrates/phosphates and i just harvest them everyweek.
    Wow.. I wish I could say that for the past 4 days. I have to change at least 30% of my water every other day.
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    You should try SAL****ER.....Reef set up to step it up a notch.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by doggie750 View Post
    You should try SAL****ER.....Reef set up to step it up a notch.....
    YOU wont regret it.....
    You will need at least 2,500 dollars to "START" reef tank...

    Live rocks are not cheap and need to be 2x heavier than size of the tank. (Eg: 55 gallon tank, 110 lbs live rock, fiji is the best looking rock)

    Then there are lighting, filters,..... sums up way too much $$ but worth it at the end
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaligulaPolk View Post
    You will need at least 2,500 dollars to "START"

    sums up way too much $$ but worth it at the end
    yeah until something dies and wipes out the entire tank and you have to start all over again haha.

    I've been close to doing sal****er many times, but haven't pulled the trigger yet. My tank would be very easy to convert, but I don't think I can give it the attention to detail it will require.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 66chevyIISS View Post
    yeah until something dies and wipes out the entire tank and you have to start all over again haha.

    I've been close to doing sal****er many times, but haven't pulled the trigger yet. My tank would be very easy to convert, but I don't think I can give it the attention to detail it will require.
    wont killing anything in water if you do slow process, not put too many fish at once. Sal****er is about patience ! :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaligulaPolk View Post
    You will need at least 2,500 dollars to "START" reef tank...

    Live rocks are not cheap and need to be 2x heavier than size of the tank. (Eg: 55 gallon tank, 110 lbs live rock, fiji is the best looking rock)

    Then there are lighting, filters,..... sums up way too much $$ but worth it at the end
    you can go other alternatives besides live rocks like a phenum system - that does the same job of denitrification. or the berlin method...big ass protein skimmer to remove any material before they get a chance to breakdown...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 66chevyIISS View Post
    yeah until something dies and wipes out the entire tank and you have to start all over again haha.

    I've been close to doing sal****er many times, but haven't pulled the trigger yet. My tank would be very easy to convert, but I don't think I can give it the attention to detail it will require.
    an efficient protein skimmer is a must for salt...increases the buffer zone for mistakes

    i like the powered tunze ones
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    top is the used coralife 6500K bulb
    bttom is the new ushio 10000K bulb

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    CPR skimmer worked great for my old setup! I still have it in storage :D wanting go back into SW hobby. Wife says not now, later when we are finished with everything needed be done. I think i will go larger next time. 4 x 125 gallon tanks (1 on each wall), its my dream room with spa tub in it.

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    HEY RUSSMAN, you outta try pool filter sand as a substrate vs the pebble. cichlids love to dig, which will collapse stacked rock if you don't set it up right, but it's a joy to watch them. they grab a mouthful and swim around releasing it and when it drops to the bottom it's looks like it's snowing. makes me also think of a snowglobe.



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