Blueray player recommendations to serve as CD player as well...

[RandyWilliamson]

hello to all....was looking for a dedicated CD player....and remembered I wont be able to go too long without a blueray player....was wondering if anyone had some good recommnedations.

I saw on another thread someone mention a new Oppp BD player..but havent looked at it yet.

Post some suggestions and thanks.

[CaligulaPolk]

hello to all....was looking for a dedicated CD player....and remembered I wont be able to go too long without a blueray player....was wondering if anyone had some good recommnedations.

I saw on another thread someone mention a new Oppp BD player..but havent looked at it yet.

Post some suggestions and thanks.

playstation 3

[VXR8]

Check this new Denon out - not sure if it is released yet though:

http://www.audioproducts.com.au/Prod...?pid=DVDA1UDSP

[RandyWilliamson]

Is the playstation 3 considered a good quality player?

That Denon looks expensive....and it not being released is making it scarier..:)

Yea budget is a concern but I dont want a frizzy lined low end model either its just not worth it.

[Conradicles]

Pioneer BPD-51FD is what I would get...Here is a link:

http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...ioneer-bdp51fd

Enjoy!

[thsmith]

I am using my PS3 with a PS AUdio which made an improvement for CDs over my Denon AVR DAC. I have a Rotel 1072 coming and will be able to tell you then what the differences are.

[oifvet0608]

Depends on what format you prefer and if your receiver has multichannel inputs

If you listen to SACD then buy a Sony

If you listen to DVD-A then buy a Panasonic

Keep in mind I'm trying to keep you in an affordable price range, there are more expensive players out there that will do more...better (more better, that sounded retarded but I think you guys know the context).

I will use my PS3 because I have alot of Blu-Ray's and I'm a gamer so it fits me but it will all depend on how and what you plan to use it for.

[RandyWilliamson]

wow tuff to say no to that Pioneer....

am I reading this right it has an interlacer for SD signals as well...anyone seen the rear of this unit...

looks like an awesome buy.

[danz1906]

Depends on what format you prefer and if your receiver has multichannel inputs

If you listen to SACD then buy a Sony

If you listen to DVD-A then buy a Panasonic

Keep in mind I'm trying to keep you in an affordable price range, there are more expensive players out there that will do more...better (more better, that sounded retarded but I think you guys know the context).

I will use my PS3 because I have alot of Blu-Ray's and I'm a gamer so it fits me but it will all depend on how and what you plan to use it for.

Go for the OPPO BDP-83, it plays both SACD and DVD-A:D

[Conradicles]

wow tuff to say no to that Pioneer....

am I reading this right it has an interlacer for SD signals as well...anyone seen the rear of this unit...

looks like an awesome buy.

It has a dedicated 2-channel audio out (RCA analog) and Wolfson Audio DAC's. I have never heard it myself, but I would think it would make a great CD Player compared to it's competition.

Plus it is dirt cheap.

[RandyWilliamson]

Your right both are important as their definitely the future huh?
I take it either or will play old CD impressively or will they not be backwards compatible?
I dont have any SACD or DVD-a's right now tho.

The oppo looks awesome but its also not out yet and there is no price listed.

[Pedler]

wow tuff to say no to that Pioneer....

am I reading this right it has an interlacer for SD signals as well...anyone seen the rear of this unit...

looks like an awesome buy.

It is a great deal. Blueray and CD player. But their is a few issues about them
that may deter you. ( Layer changes and, the non-japan version that came out. Also the release of the long awaited on board decoding is now released) so just read up before you buy.

I wouldn't wait to long at that price they will sell them quickly.
If you can live with the issues It would be a good buy for the money.

[jon s]

The Pioneer BDP051 and it's Elite version, the BDP09FD are excellent CD players. Their Blu-Ray performance is very good. However, there are some issues with their usability. The Pioneers are slow responding, does not support DTS-HD Master (yet). Like nearly all Blu-Ray players, their SD DVD layer change is pretty slow (some DVDs takes 2-3 seconds). The remote control is not user friendly.

Still, their CD performance is very good... good enough where Stereophile made some good comments about it. I have both the BDP05 and BDP51 and the differences are mostly cosmetic, with the BDP51 having a bit poorer performance when used with component cables.

If you decide to get one, you have to act soon. Both models have been discontinued by Pioneer and their replacement units are cheaper with less features. The BDP51 was $600 but can be found for less than $300 now.

One model you might look into is their BDP09FD, which outperforms the BDP09/51, but it sells for $2000.

[Pedler]

Sorry I jumped the gun on the " support DTS-HD Master" I thought there was a release for the on board decoding. am I wrong?

[Erik Tracy]

Sorry I jumped the gun on the " support DTS-HD Master" I thought there was a release for the on board decoding. am I wrong?

Yes - it is still pending for the 51FD.

You may want to check on the AVS board for the thread specific to the 51FD player for other quirks, tricks, and secret tips of that player.

For the money - seems like a good value.

I'm holding out for the Oppo...waiting to see how the player performs with the general public and if the price will drop - if at all. It has the features, performance, and speed that may make it worth the price...to me.

[cnh]

I have a PS3 but PIONEER Elite makes Great PLAYERS!!!!

cnh

[jon s]

Pioneer has been promising an update for DTS-HD Master since the unit was released last summer. The models (BDP05FD and BDP51FD) are now been discontinued and yet no firmware update has been released. They also promised performance updates but that never materialized. Firmware version 1.27A is supposed to be released with DTS HD Master next month (it's been promised every month this year) so until it is released, i am not holding my breath.

Regarding the Oppo Blu-Ray player... I have seen reports which make it appear to be the fastest player on the market, even outperforming the Sony PS3 in some areas. But looking at the Oppo thread in AVS Forum shows that the Oppo does have some issues... even more than the Pioneer did when it was released, even though Oppo has been beta testing for several months. One does have to take into mind that the Oppo is supposed to be a jack of all trades player, supporting even SACD and DVD Audio, so it is understandable that there's going to be a lot of bugs for the feature set that it is promising.

IMHO, if you have a HDMI HDCP capable receiver, a Sony PS3 is still the best option. It's fast, updates regularly through the internet. It is the player with the fewest problems. The big pain is that the remote uses BlueTooth iso IR. The only remote that will work with it are the Harmonys with the newly available IR/Bluetooth PS3 adapter.

[RandyWilliamson]

Well I waited like a dumb-ass....i actually had my CC ready to just order last night cuz I figured I know a good deal when I see one...but I have had some recent bad impulse buys....and withdrew....

sure enuff after seeing some appreciation of the unit from you guys same as me....I go to buy and ah ah ah ah!! ratss!!!

Sucks to be me.

Yea i kind of was thinking about the stupid super Cd's and HDcd's which I have no business worrying about since I dont even have one....stupid stupid stupid...when I get home I will bang my head against the wall.

Whats the freagin Oppo gonna be selling for anyway?

[craigpsu]

I have the same exact question about a good blu ray player that will serve as a CD player also. I am going to buy an SC -07 or -05 AVR. Do I need a higher end Blu Ray player or will the PS3 or maybe a Samsung player that is a little cheaper. I know the Elite has a good DAC, but does the player need to have one also?
Thanks

[xcapri79]

Pioneer has been promising an update for DTS-HD Master since the unit was released last summer. The models (BDP05FD and BDP51FD) are now been discontinued and yet no firmware update has been released. They also promised performance updates but that never materialized. Firmware version 1.27A is supposed to be released with DTS HD Master next month (it's been promised every month this year) so until it is released, i am not holding my breath.

Looks like FW1.32 does that now.

http://www.pioneerusa.com/ephox/Stat...tory090610.TXT

Ver 1.32
CHANGE HISTORY:
- Enables the following new functions. Refer to the Operating Instructions addendum "Notice on the Addition of Functions" for details.
1. DTS-HD audio output
Converts DTS-HD audio to linear PCM for HDMI OUT (MAIN) terminal.
Converts DTS-HD audio to analog audio for the AUDIO OUT (7.1 ch) terminals.
2. Image file playback
Play image files recorded on DVD or CD.
3. LFE Crossover frequency and additional Speaker settings for AUDIO OUT (7.1 ch) terminals.
- Enhances stability of BD-Java playback (*)
- Enhances stability of BD-ROM/BD-R/BD-RE/DVD-Video playback
- Fixes the resume playback function after switching off the player by pressing the STANDBY/ON button during playback of BD-ROM discs.
- Performance improvement
* The player's action can be slower than expected depending on contents (menu, game, etc.) included in certain BD-Java discs.

[mshan242700]

Where in Pioneer menus can I find current firmware revision?

[xcapri79]

Where in Pioneer menus can I find current firmware revision?

The website below contains the instructions for the BDP-51FD.

http://www.pioneerusa.com/ephox/Stat...TION090610.txt

This is the excerpt from the instructions that tells you how to determine the FW version.

A. Check the current firmware version of the player:
Using the player’s remote control.
1. Press the "STANDBY/ON" button to switch the unit on.
2. If the player starts to play a disc, press the "STOP" button and wait until the Pioneer logo is displayed on your TV.
3. Press the "Home Menu" button.
4. Select "Initial Setup" then press "Enter”.
5. Select "Video Out" then press "Enter".
6. Select "TV Aspect Ratio" then press "Enter".
7. Press the "Blue" button on the remote control.
8. The firmware version of your player will be displayed in the bottom right portion of the TV screen.
If the version number is 1.32 or higher, it is not necessary to update the firmware.
If the version number is less than 1.32, it is necessary to update the firmware. Please continue to Step B.

[mshan242700]

Hi:

Thanks.

I have revision 1.02.

If I follow instructions in link, is there any risk of bricking by Blu-Ray player?

And is this going to be the final firmware for this now discontinued player?

[xcapri79]

Hi:

Thanks.

I have revision 1.02.

If I follow instructions in link, is there any risk of bricking by Blu-Ray player?

When you put the CD with the new FW in your player, leave it be until it is finished.
The drawer will open itself when it is done.
If you disturb it or have a power outage during the update which takes 15 to 20 minutes, then there may be problems.
There will likely be additonal FW upgrades. Pioneer continues to support this player.
There is an unauthorized FW version 1.33 available, but I would recommend staying with the authorized version to maintain warranty.

[mshan242700]

Thanks!

[2-tall]

Just picked the Pioneer up Sunday from BB.It was returned open box but all parts were still sealed in plastic,only $124.00.Wired it in using analog cables to my mmc1.On cd's it sounds similar to my azur 640.The surround is outstanding.I updated it from 1.02 to 1.32 last night.

[tonyb]

I think the oppo is out as someone here has one,list is $499 and managed to get a good review in HT mag.

[PSOVLSK]

You lucky dog!!! I can't tell you how many times I went to my local Best Buy stores hoping to find an open box. Ended up buying one here at CP for $220 to my door and still think I got a good deal. Great unit for BR, DVD, or CD...although I usually use my HD-A1 to play standard DVD's.

Just picked the Pioneer up Sunday from BB.It was returned open box but all parts were still sealed in plastic,only $124.00.Wired it in using analog cables to my mmc1.On cd's it sounds similar to my azur 640.The surround is outstanding.I updated it from 1.02 to 1.32 last night.