whats on the bottle right corner of my AVR?

[SivaNevets]

SORRY I mean BOTTOM LEFT
OUT
Opt-2 (VCR)
Digital Assignable

is this some sort of pre-out? can I hook it up to an amp?

[kawizx9r]

Optical digital output...just like the one behind a PS3, dvd/blu ray player etc

[SivaNevets]

Optical digital output...just like the one behind a PS3, dvd/blu ray player etc

it contains all the sound information right? i mean can I use this output to an extra amplifier or soundcard?

[kawizx9r]

Since its assignable.....I would think that whatever source is connected through an optical digital INPUT on your receiver can also be sent OUT of that optical output on your receiver and you just choose what one you want it to be. My denon also has ins/outs for optical digital connection.

[kawizx9r]

Know what I still have the manual for mine, I havent looked at it in a long time but I think Im right with what I said above. Ill double check though

Edit: Ok I was right, it shows here its meant to be used with CD/Mini disc/DVD recorders that have an optical digital input so you dont have to connect/disconnect optical cables when watching a movie using your surround sound AND recording a copy of it too or the sort.

[SivaNevets]

so i can assign it to an external amplifier (if it takes optical in) right? or anything takes optical in.

[McLoki]

I would assume you would connect it to an external DAC (Digital to Analog Converter) and then back into the CD inputs. (so your External DAC does the conversion instead of your AVR)

It could be used for alot of things, but that is probably what it was intended for.

Michael

[daboyz]

^^^Cool feature if that's what it's for^^^

[kawizx9r]

What McLoki suggested sounds even better, just wondering if the optical digital out on the receiver is sending an unaltered signal (which I bet it is working like a pass-thru).

[SivaNevets]

i can upgrade to this one. my current Emu0404 USB uses AK4395 DAC which sounds fantastic, Ak4396 will just be better!

Key Components

•Creative X-Fi CA20K audio processor
•One AKM AK-5394 super high performance 96kHz 24-bit ADC for analog input
•Four AKM AK-4396 96kHz 24-bit advanced multi-bit DAC for analog output
•64Mbytes of memory for audio processing
•High fidelity audio OPAMPs for analog input and output (TI OPA2134)
•Front L/R output OPAMP is replaceable by end-user (National LM4562NA)
•Dual mode S/PDIF receiver and transmitter
Audio Performance (Rated Output @ 5Vrms, Typical Value)

•Signal-to-Noise Ratio (20kHz Low-pass filter, A-Weighted)
•Stereo Output : 120dB (part spec)
•Front and Rear Channels : 120dB (part spec)
•Center : 120dB (part spec)
•Subwoofer and Side Channels : 120dB (part spec)
•Total Harmonic Distortion + Noise at 1kHz (-3dBFS, A-weighted) : 0.001% - part spec
•Frequency Response (+/-0.01dB, 24-bit/44.1kHz input ) : 20khz (part spec)
•Frequency Response (+/-0.01dB, 24-bit/96kHz input ) : 43.5 khz (part spec)
•16-bit to 24-bit recording sampling rates: 32, 44.1, 48 and 96kHz
•Maximum number of 3D Voices: 128

IO Connectors

•One 3.5mm MIC input connector in rear panel
•One 3.5mm line input connector in rear panel
•One 4-pin AUX connector on board
•Four 3.5mm 8 channel line output connectors in rear panel (FL/FR/C/SW/RL/RR/RSL/RSR)
•One S/PDIF combo input connector in rear panel for receiving either coaxial or optical digital
•One S/PDIF combo output connector in rear panel for transmitting either coaxial or optical digital
•One 10-1pin front panel connector on board for MIC input and headphone: more
•One 40-pin digital extension header on board to support AD-Link and other digital functionality
Swappable OPAMPs

•All Auzen soundcards support swappable OPAMP sockets for OPAMP upgrades.
S/W and drivers

•Creative X-Fi Driver

[SivaNevets]

I would assume you would connect it to an external DAC (Digital to Analog Converter) and then back into the CD inputs. (so your External DAC does the conversion instead of your AVR)

It could be used for alot of things, but that is probably what it was intended for.

Michael

what i am hoping is I can use this as some sort of pre-out so I can add a seperate amplifier later so i can get speakers like RTia9 or LSI

[kawizx9r]

what i am hoping is I can use this as some sort of pre-out so I can add a seperate amplifier later so i can get speakers like RTia9 or LSI

I thought about that, but then figured if it's an unaltered signal then the volume will have no effect whatsoever on the optical digital output. You will then require a pre/pro to process this unaltered signal before sending it out to another amp. A receiver alone works as well but of course separates are always finer :D

[SivaNevets]

I thought about that, but then figured if it's an unaltered signal then the volume will have no effect whatsoever on the optical digital output. You will then require a pre/pro to process this unaltered signal before sending it out to another amp. A receiver alone works as well but of course separates are always finer :D

ill be only getting sound thru PC soundcard and TV box..



i hope they mate:D

but i dont understand how the connection works.

say i play something from my PC, how do I get 2 front channels to a seperate amplifier? OR should I get a 5 channel amp so my receiver become useless?

[McLoki]

what i am hoping is I can use this as some sort of pre-out so I can add a seperate amplifier later so i can get speakers like RTia9 or LSI

Don't think thats going to happen for you. (if you figure out a way though - definately tell us how you pulled it off)

When you decide to move to the RTiA9 or LSi series, time to get a new AVR or pre/pro and move this one with your old speakers to the bedroom or basement.....

Good Luck,

Michael

[SivaNevets]

Don't think thats going to happen for you. (if you figure out a way though - definately tell us how you pulled it off)

When you decide to move to the RTiA9 or LSi series, time to get a new AVR or pre/pro and move this one with your old speakers to the bedroom or basement.....

Good Luck,

Michael

getting a another receiver is like additional $700 for me which is not an option in next 3 yrs

[kawizx9r]

Won't necessarily have to be a receiver, get a preamp since it seems you have an amp lined up to power these new speakers to come.

[SivaNevets]

how about the Zone-2 preout?
for my understanding u can have both on at same time, so
if i assume
Senario 1:
playing 5.1 soundtrack thru AVR,
Zone-2 only gets the Front signal,
zone1 & zone2 sing together at same time

Therefore

Senario 2:
playing 5.1 soundtrack thru AVR,
unplug front speakers from AVR,
connect zone2 preout to Seperate amplifier
Connect front speakers to Seperate amplifier
all 6 speakers sing at same time


too optimistic?

[kawizx9r]

Thats what alot do and why theyre there, use the preamp outputs and power speakers using a seperate amp. Generally a much more powerful one at that, but it doesnt have to be because seperates just sound better most of the time.

[SivaNevets]

Won't necessarily have to be a receiver, get a preamp since it seems you have an amp lined up to power these new speakers to come.

so soundcard (with DAC) + 5 channel amp?

then no room setup..
hows creative driver doing in room setup compare to audyssey?

[McLoki]

For the speakers you have it is a good reciever. How soon do you honestly plan on upgrading the speakers?

Based on the speakers you have now, I would recommend the RTiA line - maybe just the 5 or 7 and there would not be an immediate need to upgrade your reciever at all. Just move your current fronts (RTi6) to the surround or surround back position and you are good to go.

Just work with what you have....

Michael

[SivaNevets]

For the speakers you have it is a good reciever. How soon do you honestly plan on upgrading the speakers?

Based on the speakers you have now, I would recommend the RTiA line - maybe just the 5 or 7 and there would not be an immediate need to upgrade your reciever at all. Just move your current fronts (RTi6) to the surround or surround back position and you are good to go.

Just work with what you have....

Michael

earliest next fall...
i was originally planning for the A5/A7s since my AVR has no preout.. but if theres an option I would happy to save further for the A9 + amps.

[McLoki]

If you want it for 2 channel - set up a good 2 channel.

If you can't swing the A9 + amp + pre/pro (or cheap AVR with pre-outs), get something you can afford or wait longer.

You may be better off just trying to run A9's off that AVR than cobbling a solution together and ending up with higher expense for marginal sound. Then when you can step up to the pre-pro and amp (A.K.A. - do it right), do it.

Just my opinion...

Michael

[SivaNevets]

Ok, lets say my soundcard has 5.1 analog out. divided by 3 x mini , and I use 3x mini>2RCA cables
Front channel: I connect one end to soundcard 1 end to seperate amp
Centre and sub: I connect them to AVR
rear: to AVR

so Ill end up all 6 speakers sing @ same time. is this gonna work?

[SivaNevets]

If you want it for 2 channel - set up a good 2 channel.

If you can't swing the A9 + amp + pre/pro (or cheap AVR with pre-outs), get something you can afford or wait longer.

You may be better off just trying to run A9's off that AVR than cobbling a solution together and ending up with higher expense for marginal sound. Then when you can step up to the pre-pro and amp (A.K.A. - do it right), do it.

Just my opinion...

Michael

yeah...im just curious to see if theres other options to use my AVR as preouts..if not I probably go for the A5/7s instead..:D

[mmadden28]

Why do you want to involve your computer in your HT rig? Is there a specific reason?

I would imagine the problem with using Zone 2 preouts for your mains and the rest of the speaker level outputs for the surrounds and center, is that the Zone 2 out volume is likely controlled separately from the Main speaker level outputs.

I'd follow McLoki's 'sound' advice.
While putting together a mishmosh of stuff might sound like a cheaper or at least more fun way to go, it adds complication to the setup-which can only lead to frustration--especially if you have a significant other or visitors. Now if your PC is actually part of your HT rig (Movie server, etc) that's a differnet story, but....

[mmadden28]

I wonder---it has HDMI out...which carries audio....
anybody see where I'm going with that?



ahh nevermind--adding complication again...

I suppose that would be a cool accessory for those that have an AVR with no preouts but want to go the route of an external amp without having to upgrade thier AVR in the process.

[SivaNevets]

i think the HDMI out is for TV.. which the AVR upconvers analog video signal to digital. (i to p)

[mmadden28]

i think the HDMI out is for TV.. which the AVR upconvers analog video signal to digital. (i to p)

Yeah but some HDMI outs (or is it all) still carry the full signal (video and audio). I gues that depends on the AVR. I know on my Onk 805 I can control sending Audio out so if the TV so chose to decode the audio....

[kawizx9r]

The majority actually send full audio/video. I think it was before 1.13 that only video was sent, but its pretty unheard of nowadays to have an hdmi in/out that only processes one type of signal